Cue Numbers As Cue Letters.

[MrDJMedina]

Does anyone have a script or know if there is a quicker way to change all the Cue Numbers to Cue Letters?

The jobs I've worked on the LD used 1,2,3 and I used A,B,C but because Qlab defaults to 1,2,3 When its over 50 cues its a bit much to go one by one.

Thank you in advance. 

DJ

[micpool]

This is fairly trivial to script

Are you using a base 26 numbering system e.g is cue 27 AA

And how are you dealing with point cues if you needed to insert 3 cues between A and B how would they be lettered?

Mic

[Chris Ashworth]

And of course skipping any letters that could be confusing (“cue Q?”, “did you say cue N or cue M?”, “is this cue 1 or cue I?”, etc)

And (as with many programming projects) the time to script it may end up being the same or longer than the time to do it manually. :-)

So, while it can certainly be done — be sure you want to do it before you do it! 

-C

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[micpool]

Indeed, those were going to be my next set of questions
And there would probably be a few more.

Standby cue QU.Q

Mic

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 3:50:49 PM UTC+1, Chris Ashworth wrote:
> And of course skipping any letters that could be confusing (“cue Q?”, “did you say cue N or cue M?”, “is this cue 1 or cue I?”, etc)
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> And (as with many programming projects) the time to script it may end up being the same or longer than the time to do it manually. :-)
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> So, while it can certainly be done — be sure you want to do it before you do it! 
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[Jim Staniforth]

Glenn Miller:

Pardon me Roy, is that the chap who fired the Q cue?

We've got the time, a new person to find...

Jim

[MrDJMedina]

All great points. 

I haven't had a problem yet *knocks on wood*

micpool - if I need to add a cue between say A and B I would use A.1, A.2, A.3... If the cue list is long enough (over 52) I switch over to Letter + Number (ie. A1, B1, C1.... A2, B2, C2... A3, B3, C3)

Chris - I tend to skip those cue letters. Also cue AK (I work at a College), Cue O (not 0; Zero). As far as scripting I would set it up so I could just copy and paste it into a new workspace. 

Either way I would always put the Letter first. 

DJ

[Jason Dino]

 Back in the day I was taught to use letters for my sound cues as well because it helped the stage manager differentiate between lights and sound. I work at a school and I have my qlab computer hooked up through an audio interface and a midi cable to my lighting console. I know pretty much use Numbers because if I have the same Que number in qlab as the lighting console they will trigger together. My stage managers don’t even call sound cues anymore because it all gets triggered from the lighting console. Just a thought and a different way to do it.  Or you can set it up where you can have qlab trigger the lighting console as well. 

Jason 

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For what it’s worth, I feel the theory that stage managers require this kind of differentiation to be pretty well disproven. I’ve numbered my cues for a couple of decades now and never found it to be a problem.

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[MrDJMedina]

In some instants I would agree with everyone, but for first time stage managers AND board ops. Confusing up which number cue is theirs is one less thing to worry about. 

Real world it would depend on the LD but where I am that's what it is.

DJ

[micpool]

Because I believe that if people want to make a rod for their own back, by using archaic cue numbering schemes, it should be a golden turbocharged rod, here is a script.

It's not even vaguely fully tested so I suggest you only use it in a test only workspace with numbered memo cues to see if it works correctly before deploying and then only on a copy of a real workspace

If you change q number to q name at the end of the script you will get the translations of the number column, to the Q column of the cue list which makes things easier to test.

property letters : "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ" --you can omit letters from the list here

set thecount to count of letters

tell application id "com.figure53.QLab.4" to tell front workspace

set thecues to cues whose q number is not "" --ignore cues with no q number

set themultiplier to ""

repeat with eachcue in thecues

try --ignore non numeric q numbers

set thecuenumber to q number of eachcue as number

set themodnumber to round of (thecuenumber mod thecount) rounding down

if themodnumber = 0 then set themodnumber to thecount

set thecueinteger to round of thecuenumber rounding down

set thecuedecimal to (thecuenumber - thecueinteger)

if thecuedecimal = 0 then set thecuedecimal to ""

set themultiplier to round of (((q number of eachcue) - 1) / thecount) rounding down

if themultiplier = 0 then

if thecuedecimal > 0 then

set thecuedecimal to thecuedecimal as text

set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {"."}

set themultiplier to "." & text item 2 of thecuedecimal

set AppleScript's text item delimiters to {""}

else

set themultiplier to ""

end if

else

set themultiplier to (themultiplier + thecuedecimal)

end if

set thecuetext to text (themodnumber) of letters

--for testing change q number below to q name  see the result in Q column

set the q number of eachcue to thecuetext & themultiplier as string

end try

end repeat

end tell

Mic

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 9:25:35 AM UTC+1, MrDJMedina wrote:

[MrDJMedina]

Thank You so much this is exactly what I was looking for. Works great!

DJ

[talkingtobrian]

I feel like this was from a time when there were fewer sound cues, or something like that...

Letters drive me batty, and I think they get hard to say. And hard to add new cues in between old ones. (Cue E.5? EE? EA? What goes between E and F????)

What I do is find out what the other departments are doing and coordinate with them. At my school, I know our LD is always starting with cue 1, and so I start sound and video on cue 300. Just using different number ranges. I don't do mutual number ranges unless it is a tiny show where I'm designing everything and want to trigger lx. Otherwise, I just group in a midi/OSC cue to fire to the board, targeting whatever number is needed.

-Brian 

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 3:53:12 PM UTC-4, Jason Dino wrote:

 Back in the day I was taught to use letters for my sound cues as well because it helped the stage manager differentiate between lights and sound. I work at a school and I have my qlab computer hooked up through an audio interface and a midi cable to my lighting console. I know pretty much use Numbers because if I have the same Que number in qlab as the lighting console they will trigger together. My stage managers don’t even call sound cues anymore because it all gets triggered from the lighting console. Just a thought and a different way to do it.  Or you can set it up where you can have qlab trigger the lighting console as well. 

Jason 

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:44 PM MrDJMedina <mrdjm...@gmail.com> wrote:

All great points. 

I haven't had a problem yet *knocks on wood*

micpool - if I need to add a cue between say A and B I would use A.1, A.2, A.3... If the cue list is long enough (over 52) I switch over to Letter + Number (ie. A1, B1, C1.... A2, B2, C2... A3, B3, C3)

Chris - I tend to skip those cue letters. Also cue AK (I work at a College), Cue O (not 0; Zero). As far as scripting I would set it up so I could just copy and paste it into a new workspace. 

Either way I would always put the Letter first. 

DJ

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