Re: [QLab] Separated spaces

[Sam Kusnetz]

On Jan 27, 2023 at 4:58:01 AM, José Miguel Mayoral <mode...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi! Is there a way to remove the taskbar with the "keep spaces separated" option activated As options you could use always have a black image projected or use the Qlab option "blackout desktop" there are situations in which depending on the type of work It is convenient for me to have the option to "keep spaces separated" activated

There is no way to remove the menubar other than the “separate spaces” option. The menu bar appears “above” the layer of the screen drawing system that we’re allowed to access, so we cannot do anything about it.

On the other hand, syphon outputs, NDI outputs, and Blackmagic hardware outputs are not, technically, screens that macOS knows about, so those outputs never show a menu bar.

Best

Sam

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[micpool]

Hi Sam

I'm not fully understanding this, not being able to obscure the orange dot would make sense from your description, but when QLab directs video output to a screen with a separate workspaces menubar, that video obscures the menu bar. How can you do that if the menubar appears in front of anything you are allowed to access?

Best

MIc

[Sam Kusnetz]

On Jan 27, 2023 at 12:18:12 PM, micpool <m...@micpool.com> wrote:

I'm not fully understanding this, not being able to obscure the orange dot would make sense from your description, but when QLab directs video output to a screen with a separate workspaces menubar, that video obscures the menu bar. How can you do that if the menubar appears in front of anything you are allowed to access?

I’m sorry, I see now that I was unclear.

We are not able to hide the menu bar when cues are not playing without hiding the desktop altogether.

Put another way: you can easily hide the menubar: just be sure to always play a cue!

But what I thought José was asking was if there was a way to hide the menu bar without hiding the desktop.

Thanks for asking for clarification!

[micpool]

Now QLab 5 does not show the remaining desktop in partial screens, is there a case for an option to have any displays assigned to an output route permanently hiding the desktop when QLab is active? Like render between cues, but render all the time?

Mic

[Sam Kusnetz]

On Jan 27, 2023 at 12:46:45 PM, micpool <m...@micpool.com> wrote:

Now QLab 5 does not show the remaining desktop in partial screens, is there a case for an option to have any displays assigned to an output route permanently hiding the desktop when QLab is active? Like render between cues, but render all the time?

Our feeling so far has been no, although this could change, especially with substantive feedback on the topic.

For those who want the desktop hidden all the time, it’s easy enough to rely on a workflow involving “render between cues” plus running a cue at the beginning of the day, before the audience enters, etc.

“Render all the time” could be very confusing to someone who doesn’t know that it’s switched on, and if macOS becomes confused about which display is which, a thing that absolutely does happen, it could create a situation where the operator’s display is hidden and cannot be un-hidden. Messy.

For those who want true broadcast-level absolute control over displays, Blackmagic and NDI output is probably the best answer.

Best