QBigInfo

[josep...@gmail.com]

Hi Micpool and Qlabfriends,

i'm Joseph from Schwerin Theatre.

I like the QBigInfo App and us it for fast information transfer for

our stagemanager.

Now i played first time audio over 6 minutes and the time in the app restarted at 

1 hour and zero.

Is it possible to show the info for audiofiles longer as 6 minutes?

Thx Joseph

[micpool]

Sounds like a missing 0 in one of the conversion Nodes,   or it might be a localisation issue (I assume you are in Germany)

I’ll try and fix it by the end of this week.

Thanks for letting me know

Mic

[Joseph Homp]

Thx  - yes, i’m working in germany.

Bye Joseph

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[micpool]

All fixed

https://we.tl/t-5QWXAHDeyr

It was indeed a missing 0 on the seconds to hours conversion.

and I've sort of dealt with a problem for users like Maik who like to include periods (.) in their filenames. Only the text after the last period in a filename is cut, to remove extensions but allow dot naming of files e.g horn.loud.wav

Of course that means if you like to use periods in your explicitly named cues (i.e cues that are not named with the default filename) then you will lose anything after the last period as well.

I've renamed the app MicsBigInfo.

QBigInfo is deprecated.

Mic

[Joseph Homp]

Hi Mic,

thx to give trouble. 

I 'm afraid that isn’t work.

At my Macbook with El captain i can’t open the app and

with an Catalina OS the app open but i can see only a black screen

without informations.

Greetings from germany

Joseph

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[micpool]

Moral of this story

Don't use wetransfer to send mac apps unless they are zipped!

.zip file here

https://we.tl/t-3vWuFfX71V

[Joseph Homp]

Thank you very much Mic.

It’s work great - only in the remaining time is probably

same problem with files longer than 6 min.

Greetings Joseph

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[micpool]

third time lucky?

https://we.tl/t-REhgmo9kXQ

[Joseph Homp]

More than lucky - thx Joseph

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[Christian Lewis]

Hi Mic, thanks for doing this great little App, I have just installed to have a play and found these little problems/bugs... Do you think these could be simple fixes? 

1, If i edit the Q name and remove the file extension (I like to clean up the QLAB display list) it doesn't display the active q name in the app. (This is not a major problem if its a big fix)

2, When using audio files and making an edit say for a walkup using slices to start the track part way through, the clocks are then out sync with the running Q. Obviously they are fine when starting the track from the beginning.

I appreciate the time you must have put in to create this app and please don't feel obliged to fix them, just thought i'd make you aware.

Thanks again

Christian

[micpool]

Hi Christian

You have correctly identified a fundamental design error, and a feature  that was probably the wrong choice.

The error was that going to the trouble of removing the file extension from list names would cause all sorts of problems with list names that had dots in the name, and with list names that didn't have a file extension. This is fixed in the beta in the download link below

Using the file time as opposed to the cue elapsed time was probably the wrong choice, as it isn't always a useful time for a cue that has it's start point edited. On reflection, the action elapsed time is probably more useful, and I have changed to this in the beta. If anyone thinks it was more useful to reference the raw file time,rather than the action elapsed time  of the cue, then let me know and I'll consider adding it as an option.

Some other things were corrected in October when the program was also renamed MicsBigInfo.

Download the new beta here

https://we.tl/t-bz7g4tyvJK

Let me know if this version solves your problems.

Mic

PS sorry for the 2 previous posts which had links to a file that didn't work with wetransfer

[Christian Lewis]

Thanks Mic for a very quick turnaround! 

Its prefect for me now! thank you very much 😊

[micpool]

Here's a link to a new beta which also sends the info across a network as OSC  (TouchOSC and KIOSC receivers included)

https://we.tl/t-yBYhCoqQln

MicsBigInfoOSCout b0.1
Displays name, elapsed and remaining times, for either the first or last active audio cue in a QLab workspace active Cue List.

Also sends OSC as follows:

/displayName {string}

/displayElapsed

/displayRemaining

/displayClock

to a network destination, which is set by sending an OSC message:

/IP {String containiing IP address:port}

to Port 9000 of this app e.g

/IP "192.168.1.46:8000"

On a simple network changing the last part of the IP address to 255 will broadcast the OSC. e.g

192.168.1.255:8000

There may be bugs, and it generates a lot of network traffic (can be reduced by only displaying whole seconds)  so test with caution!

Here's a screenshot showing it sending to an iPad, an IPhone  wirelessly, and KIOSC.

Mic

[Christian Lewis]

Hi Mic, hope all is well with you!

I've been using your MicBigInfo b2 for a while now, It is great and thank you for creating it! However, I have a little annoyance in that when I am running a VT and need to do a voice count out for the other techs, as the second digit changes down at the start of the second this effectively puts my countdown 1 second ahead of the actual video remaining time (Hope that makes sense!) Basically, I am asking if it would be possible when you turn off the tenths on the display to have the second digit change at the end of the second rather than at the start of the second??

Cheers, Christian 

[micpool]

Hi Christian

It’s an interesting philosophical question, as if you count down off the actual  QLab remaining timers or Big info, in tenths mode, you still  have the same problem of having to add 1 to the seconds display when you count down, in order to hit 0.

My app is  not running it’s own timers it’s just reading QLab’s timers at either 10Hz or 2Hz and truncating the display in seconds mode so the seconds match the seconds on the QLab timer.

The primary purpose of the whole seconds count is to reduce the CPU load and Number of OSC messages by a factor of 5, when a high degree of accuracy is not required. It also stops the display updating the elapsed and remaining timers separately, which is desirable when a high degree of accuracy isn’t required. So seconds mode is only accurate to around 1/2 sec anyway.

You can download  a special beta version of the app which adds a second to the elapsed so it’s probably  late rather than early.  See if you prefer it.

https://we.tl/t-OKadp4JhYd

[micpool]

An alternative would be to use MicsTimer as in the attached video, which requires some programming per cue, but may be more suitable for you if you are just doing countdowns off a local computer.

[Christian Lewis]

Hi Mic, thanks again for your time and support! I will have a play with the beta you have done! In terms of MicsTimer, is this available to download from somewhere? I do run the timer on the same machine...

Thanks again

Christian

[micpool]

MicsTimer

https://groups.google.com/g/qlab/c/7-gbFPQKNco/m/AYU3PVJnBAAJ

[Christian Lewis]

Hi Mic, just upgraded one of my licenses to version 5, initially looks great and looking forward to the NDI integration! However, I have just tried your excellent MicsBigInfo app you created and this doesn't connect with Version 5... Do you think this could be an easy fix??  Cheers, Christian

[micpool]

Here's a version for of MicsBigInfo  that works with QLab5.

it's only a quick fix. The app needs completely rewriting from scratch , but it works well enough for now.

Tested with Monterey and QLab 5.1.4

This is a new version for QLab 5 Only

Displays name, elapsed and remaining times for either the first or last active audio cue in a QLab workspace active Cue List.

Switching to Whole seconds mode allows last few seconds to 0 to be counted accurately

Also sends OSC as follows:

/displayName

/displayElapsed

/displayRemaining

/displayClock

to a network destination which is set by sending an OSC message:

/IP {String containiing IP address:port}to Port 9000 of this app e.g

/IP "192.168.1.46:8000"

On a simple network changing the last part of the IP address to 255 will broadcast the OSC. e.g

192.168.1.255:8000

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DOWNLOAD HERE:

https://we.tl/t-ItH0eaI81y

Mic

[Christian Lewis]

Hi Mic, only just spotted you updated this great little app to work with version 5, thanks for doing this, i've just downloaded and tried it but it doesn't appear to work... I am currently on a new Mac book pro which came with MacOS Sonoma 14.1.1 (23B81) and running QLAB 5.3.2

I know you said on your last post it would require completely rewriting from scratch, so appreciate you probably don't have time for this, but just wanted to check if there is a quick fix for it not working with latest QLAb and MacOS versions.

Thanks again for all the time you put in to this support channel!!

Christian

[micpool]

Hi Christian

Works fine for me on Sonoma and 5.3.2




Have you  set up no passcode access for OSC  in settings/network?



Mic

[Hwanhyuk Chang (유키황)]

Hello, Mic.

Hwanhyuk from South Korea.🇰🇷

This is my first chat at group and really enjoying your recipes from your cookbook.

I was trying to connect my iPhone's KIOSC but it doesn't show up.

Do I need a OSC version of your BIgInfo? or send OSC with my QLab app?

All I can see on my KIOSC is like the picture below.

2021년 1월 12일 화요일 오전 1시 28분 34초 UTC+9에 micpool님이 작성:

[micpool]

Hi Hwanhyuk

I'm not sure where on your KIOSC layout you expect to display the OSC from BigInfo.

You need to design a screen in KIOSC editor that will receive these OSC messages on port 8000

/displayName

/displayElapsed

/displayRemaining

and display them.

Screen recording attached showing it working.

Mic

[Hwanhyuk Chang (유키황)]

Hello, Mic.

Thank you for your reply.

I did with your reply and designed KIOSC with yours.

I matched my KIOSC app OSC setting as same as my Mac's IP and OSC port (QLab default 53000)

I put

/displayElapsed on the Label "Elapsed" OSC

/displayName on the Label "CUE" OSC
/displayRemaining on the Label "Remaining" OSC

I set my QLab's Network Outputs from Wi-Fi adapter to my iPhone's local IP (8000 port)

Network Cue Setting = /IP "iPhone's local IP:8000"

As watching your reference video, I see that your BigInfo has your localhost IP and port.

On your QLab, I can see a BigInfo to KIOSC cue.

Can you let me know how can I change the set of BigInfo's destination?

I put some captured photos.

2024년 1월 7일 일요일 오전 2시 4분 10초 UTC+9에 micpool님이 작성:

[micpool]

MIcsBigInfo (QLab5) uses port 9000, as it says in the instructions

So

Your network set up should look like this

The cue that sets the IP address Mics BigInfo sends the OSC to looks like this

That's the address of my phone. Use the  IP address for your phone on port 8000

And attached is a screen recording of it workinin Kiosc on my iPhone.

Best


Mic