[QLab] Simple MIDI File Editor

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AFAFR...@aol.com

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Aug 22, 2010, 3:54:19 PM8/22/10
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Hi Guys,
 
thanks to all your help, i am getting now very comfortable with my DMXIS and QLAB
and want to run the Music from QLAB paralell with a Midi File so that the Lighting
is synced to the Music.
 
It seems that Logic is not just saving a simple MIDI File and needs lot of "hands on"
and i would prefer to have a VERY simple solution in which i can add the MIDI Notes
to a Track and that just save it - and DONE - it will trigger on Channels 15+16 the Notes
that will tell DMIXIS what to do.
 
Does anyone have a Idea of a simple MIDI Programm that could do this ?
thanks for all your help
Marian

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Aug 22, 2010, 11:59:35 PM8/22/10
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Greetings Marian,

I wonder how many DMXIS cues you are averaging on a song.

If it's just a handful, you could just skip the (play a midi file)
approach & just put in midi cues with prewaits (fire all children at once)
& then your light cues would also follow the music.

Of course if you've already programmed lots of cues, exporting what you've
done would be the way to go.

If you only have a few cues per song & did program then as MIDI cues
instead of playing a pre programmed midi file, you would have the
flexibility of adjust your timing in Qlab which may be a desirable option.

EX:

audio cue 1
midi cue 1 prewait 5 sec
midi cue 2 prewait 25 sec
etc...

My experiments with DMXIS & Qlab were single triggers via a MIDI cue in
Qlab so that is how I would be going about things.

Also, if you've done a bunch of programming in Logic & to save having to
reprogram, I would think that you might want to post something to the
Logic userlist & see how to export the right type of file instead of
moving to a different platform. That seems like a failure of Logic that
should be able to be overcome.

Maybe you could send me a file that you're working from for Logic & I can
see what happens on my end. If you have the ability to post the whole
folder somewhere via FTP, I'll download it.

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AFAFR...@aol.com

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Aug 23, 2010, 3:19:44 AM8/23/10
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Hey,
thanks for helping, i have tried with just MIDI Cues on QLAB, it becomes just
to complicated if i do this for every Song and it seemed to be diffecult if something
in the LineUp Changed.
The Person operating the Show (i am the Artist) would then be unable to
understand the whole thing.
 
With a "MIDI FILE" it would just play along parallel and work also much easier
when i am designing the show.
 
I will tonight Load the MIDI File up to my "mobile me" if you like to take a look.
 
One of the Supporters from QLAB allready took a look and cam up with this, so it seems
that Logic is the Problem - that's why i was hoping there is a "SIMPLE, EASY" Sequencer out
there that dosent make it so diffecult.
 

Hi Marian,

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you about this! I'm afraid this is starting to get beyond my expertise in Logic, but here's what I've been able to find.

On closer inspection, it looks like Logic isn't actually preserving channel settings for tracks or for regions, which surprises me. Instead it looks like you have to assign the channel to the notes within the region.

One way to do this is to select the region and go to Window -> Event List, and edit the channels for all the notes individually. Alternatively, you can process them all at once by selecting them, going to Window -> Transform, and setting up a transformation that will fix all the channels to the value you need. (I've attached a screenshot that shows the channel getting set to 8.)

Like I said, this is a bit beyond my normal Logic experience, so there may be an easier way of doing things. But I hope this helps anyway!

 

 

 



Maybe you could send me a file that you're working from for Logic & I can
see what happens on my end. If you have the ability to post the whole
folder somewhere via FTP, I'll download it.


mick ritchie

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Aug 23, 2010, 3:31:46 AM8/23/10
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Hi

ive used logic for just this purpose creating a bunch of midifiles with nothing in but 3 sets of CC info and sometimes the output file did not match its operation in logic.  I came across "numerology" which is a simpler midi only program but you cant try before you buy and "Reaper" which  will allow you to try and has more options to save as simple midi files though I havent used it for this yet.


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