House Music Programming

[rsgar...@gmail.com]

Hi,

This might have already been discussed... but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere on this group.

I work in a theatre, and have been using group cues to trigger pre show, interval & exit house music. Using this method, I have to go through each separate audio cue and set them to auto follow. Is there a way that I can set all of the audio files to auto follow (without having to adjust this for each individual cue). I have looked into the different group modes... but this doesn't seem to help much. I've also considered using a separate cur list for the house music, but I am unsure of exactly how this would work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Ryan :)

[Daniel Perelstein]

Well, there are lots of ways to do it, but if your concern is that you have to go through each seperate audio cue and set it to auto follow, how many cues do you have so that pressing 'c' 'c' [down arrow]  'c' 'c' [down arrow] 'c' 'c' [down arrow] 'c' 'c' [down arrow] takes more than a couple of seconds.

There are also script solutions, etc, but if your concern is speed of programming, the key commands might be quick for you...

Dan

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[Tom Quinn]

I use this method in conjunction with the house music in a seperate cue list, triggered with start cues, and killed by fading the house cue list. During programming I just whiz through with the keyboard to set all to auto follow.

I'll also set a specific track with cue name if I want to start intermission music at a specific point, but still wrap the list with a start cue at the bottom. Works great for me, your mileage may very.


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[micpool]

I agree that it is quick enough using the normal shortcuts.

But if you did have 24 hours of (acid) house music you could put the following on a hotkey trigger

An OSC cue with custom message:

/cue/selected/continueMode 2

Then select all the cues you want to have auto follows and hit the hotkey.

Mic

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[Rich Walsh]

There is currently no UI for editing multiple cues at once, for reasons we have explored at length…

You can use this OSC method:

/cue/selected/continueMode 1

The modes are:

0 - NO CONTINUE
1 - AUTO CONTINUE
2 - AUTO FOLLOW

Mic – of course – has an excellent primer here: http://qlabcookbook.com/2003/01/12/hot-keys-n-osc/.

If you visit https://figure53.hostedwiki.co/pages/QLab Scripts and Macros you'll see "Batch adjust continue mode" and "Create adjustable auto-follow". They both work in QLab 3, I think. The first allows you to choose continue mode for selected cues; the second makes a string of cues follow on to each other with a user-defined overlap.

We've discussed preshow music at length too, but I can't find a good thread that will explain how to do it in a separate cuelist. I found some quite good ranty threads that I'd forgotten about though!

Basically, make a second cuelist, stick all your music in it, batch adjust all but the last cue to auto-follow. Use a Start Cue in your Main Cue List to target this second cuelist (you can drag the cuelist from the Cue Lists & Active Cues list onto a cue in the main window). Use a Fade Cue (again, targeting the second cuelist) to fade out and stop the second cuelist when you're ready. You can target another cue to start the music again. There are lots of layers of finessing you can then add – but this should get you started with some experimenting.

Rich

[rsgar...@gmail.com]

Great, thank you, the batch adjust mode worked perfectly! :)

[Brian Kelly]

Here is what I do for Preshow/Intermission music - run it in iTunes! A lot of times, its the music last thought of. Or maybe the director wants to do it/board op/whatever. Rather than do through the trouble of making a cluttered workspace or seperate workspace, i dump the songs i want to use in an itunes playlist and trigger that from Qlab via applescript.  Example script from Romeo and Juliet that I am working on that opens this weekend:

tell application "iTunes"

set sound volume to 40

play playlist "R&J"

end tell

That's bundled in my preshow cue (which also sets the computer's playback volume in case it got changed, and my show timer, and anything else i might want to run). Then, when it is time for the music to fade out, I have another script:

property tick : 5 -- change volume level by this many each loop

property thismany : 0.25 -- seconds to wait before making next change to volume

tell application "iTunes"

repeat

set snd to sound volume

if snd is less than or equal to tick then

set sound volume to 0

exit repeat

end if

set sound volume to (snd - tick)

delay thismany

end repeat

pause

set sound volume to 100

end tell

You can adjust this to your own fade needs.  But it allows for fast playlist editing that isn't really needing the mission critical control of Qlab. If I have a song that I want to end the preshow music on (like last week's production of Psycho Beach Party) I just have the script end the track (which is usually a cue from the stage manager that show is at places) and then autocontinue into the song that i want that is in Qlab.

[Michael Craven]

Those scripts are fantastic.

I've linked it up to a 3 hour long wait cue to time the show for stage management.

The cut out at the bottom end of the itunes volume is a bit sad, any thoughts how to fix that?

[Craig K]

Here is my script for fading iTunes play back - it basically uses a tighter values for the fade increments. It might give you what you're looking for in the bottom of the fade curve.

There is a longer thread (with a more detailed workspace) here, for using iTunes for pre show etc.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/qlab/craig$20k/qlab/u5XBprty5go/id8v0oDSVRoJ

[Rich Walsh]

I don't think that's the problem: I'd say it's more to do with the fact that iTunes sound volume of 2 is about 30dB down and sound volume of 1 is -∞, albeit via a very short linear-in-dB fade from -30dB. You can't even get round that with the volume adjust fader in the track info: it goes from -30dB to +6dB. I suppose with some tedium you could fade to -30dB and then -60dB before off…

You could use Soundflower to route from iTunes into a Mic Cue and then out again via Soundflowerbed to your physical outs. You'll need to use a 64-channel Soundflower to make the in and out busses independent.

Alternatively, use the pro audio software for playback and leave iTunes alone! ;-)

By the way, can I make my regular plea to PLEASE QUOTE when replying as the initial email today makes no sense at all if you don't keep every QLab forum email you've ever received on every device you ever read emails on?

Rich