[QLab] Hackintosh netbook

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Alex Godin

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Aug 18, 2010, 6:56:03 PM8/18/10
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Anyone using qlab on a Hackintosh netbook  is it even possible. 

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Troy Kelly

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Aug 18, 2010, 6:59:28 PM8/18/10
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Hi Alex,

We have tried two Asus EeePc's - and it's sadly an epic failure. I
think they are just far too under resourced.

Even shows that still run on a G4 .. Fail to run on the eeepc's

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Philip Barrett

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Aug 18, 2010, 8:30:24 PM8/18/10
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For QLab or just in general?  I have a good friend who has a very serviceable Dell netbook Mac OS X install.  However, he is a programmer and pretty savvy around these things.

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Anyone using qlab on a Hackintosh netbook  is it even possible. 

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Andy Leviss

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Aug 18, 2010, 10:10:10 PM8/18/10
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Alex Godin <al...@alexgodin.com> wrote:
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> Anyone using qlab on a Hackintosh netbook  is it even possible.

As already noted, it's gonna be way too light on processor and RAM to
do anything show-critical with. I have used QLab 1 on an MSI Wind to
play back some click tracks for a rehearsal and a sitz, but it was
practically a glorified CD player for that, just two cues (click and
stereo music) at a time.

--Andy

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Aug 18, 2010, 10:36:44 PM8/18/10
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I have a hackintosh that I use when flying because a 17" mac laptop is wholly unusable given how close seats are together.

It's great for that, but not at all suited for qlab's resource demands.

I do use it as a separate screen for some shows to display information from our CueServers, but that's just a web page.

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For QLab or just in general?  I have a good friend who has a very serviceable Dell netbook Mac OS X install.  However, he is a programmer and pretty savvy around these things.

PB

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James Corner

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Aug 20, 2010, 9:56:09 PM8/20/10
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Hi
I'd Like to know if anyone is using Hackintosh machines, I've been looking at some of the specs and they seem pretty
hefty. same intel i7 processors running snow leopard, just no shiny silver case and Half the price, any views?

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Philip Barrett

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Aug 20, 2010, 10:03:53 PM8/20/10
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Hi
I'd Like to know if anyone is using Hackintosh machines, I've been looking at some of the specs and they seem pretty
hefty. same intel i7 processors running snow leopard, just no shiny silver case and Half the price, any views? 


Yes, from having used one; nice toy, fun to play with if you're pretty tech savvy but to run QLab in a show situation?  You'd be a braver man than me.

PB

Rich Walsh

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Aug 20, 2010, 10:48:59 PM8/20/10
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On 21 Aug 2010, at 02:56, James Corner wrote:

> I'd Like to know if anyone is using Hackintosh machines, I've been looking at some of the specs and they seem pretty
> hefty. same intel i7 processors running snow leopard, just no shiny silver case and Half the price, any views?

I think there's a little bit more to Apple's engineering than shiny silver cases...

Whenever I have cause to use a "comparable" PC laptop (since you mention i7 processors I'm guessing you don't mean Mac Pros; iMacs have no equivalent, and you can't beat a Mac mini really) that is apparently half the price of a MacBook (Pro) I am struck by how cheaply they are built: the displays are not as crisp, the keyboard feels nasty and unergonomic, the trackpad is non-responsive and doesn't do much other than track, the mouse buttons do not feel positive, the case is chunky and uncomfortable, the computer is heavy and not robust, the fans run all the time - and loudly, the battery life is negligible, the hardware doesn't stay functional for as many years, there's no MagSafe, there's not a proper FireWire connector, and so on. You can put a BMW engine in a Lada, but you're still sat in a cheap seat with a plastic dashboard and no airbags, if you see what I mean. There are always reasons why other manufacturers can sell their hardware for less: and I don't believe that Apple whack a percentage on their RRP just for the hell of it - you get what you pay for when you actually look at all the details, I think.

Another thing I would consider would be costing up how much additional time you are going to spend making the computer work in a way that is unsupported, rather than just buying an Apple computer and being done with it. An extra 5 days of my time wasted keeping a computer working over its 2-4 year lifetime would not be worth saving £1,000. Consider whether any software manufacturer is going to actually provide support when you have an issue: it's miserable enough trying to run Windows under Boot Camp when things go wrong as the software company blame Apple, Apple blame Microsoft and none of the three parties will actually help you out. Surely one of the beauties of developing for the Mac OS is that you don't particularly have to care about the end user's hardware configuration? What if the driver you have to install to get your non-Apple trackpad working conflicts with QLab? Would you expect Figure 53 to support your hardware configuration?

Finally, installing Mac OS X on a non-Apple machine is in breach of the license agreement. How can Apple sell Mac OS X for so much less than Windows, given that the developers deserve to get paid for writing the code? Is it because part of the cost of the software is tied into the hardware price? Breaching the license for software to save yourself money is not a million miles away from getting music without paying for it, and hence, using someone else's sound design without them getting paid.

So, on the whole, my view would be get a Mac - since you asked.

Rich

James Corner

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Aug 21, 2010, 8:03:41 AM8/21/10
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Well that's nailed it.
Thanks for the Informed Insight, point taken, and much appreciated, I agree with everything mentioned, I Did after all, ask.


Kind Regards

James
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