[QLab] Moving Qlab Files

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Sten

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Oct 20, 2009, 4:49:18 PM10/20/09
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Hello Everyone,

Next question. My music department has a habit of giving me new files
that are named exactly the same as the previous ones. I keep the
separated by building folders based on when it was handed off to me.
Since we have the band rehearsing in one room and tech in the next
I've been trying to move between computers with Qlab. So far this is
only working if I keep all the files on an external drive. That works
for this phase of the process but I despair that once I start trying
to move the files to the backup computer I will have to bundle and
lose all of my folder structure.

I for one didn't mind the working directory system, it made files easy
to move around. I wonder if we could implement something like what
MaxMSP uses where files are located either with explicit locations or
in folders relative certain files, like the application and max patch
that is using the files. So if I have a folder with Qlab cuelist and
then subfolders with my audio files inside that folder Qlab would know
to look in those folders for the files.

Thanks,

Sten


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Christopher Ashworth

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Oct 20, 2009, 5:41:53 PM10/20/09
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Hi Sten,

You can safely arrange files in your own folder structure and avoid
using the bundle feature. When you open a workspace on a new
computer, QLab will look for the files in the place they were last
seen relative to the workspace. You can think of it as an implicit
working directory that is used the first time the workspace is opened:
the working directory is the same directory that contains the
workspace file.

Therefore you can move over your whole directory structure (without
bundling) and QLab will still be able to find the files if they are in
the same relative location as they were on the original computer.

Bundling is in some sense a "backup plan" to make a clean directory
structure, in case you didn't organize your folders cleanly from the
beginning.

Best,
Chris

On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sten wrote:
>
> Next question. My music department has a habit of giving me new
> files that are named exactly the same as the previous ones. I keep
> the separated by building folders based on when it was handed off to
> me. Since we have the band rehearsing in one room and tech in the
> next I've been trying to move between computers with Qlab. So far
> this is only working if I keep all the files on an external drive.
> That works for this phase of the process but I despair that once I
> start trying to move the files to the backup computer I will have to
> bundle and lose all of my folder structure.
>
> I for one didn't mind the working directory system, it made files
> easy to move around. I wonder if we could implement something like
> what MaxMSP uses where files are located either with explicit
> locations or in folders relative certain files, like the application
> and max patch that is using the files. So if I have a folder with
> Qlab cuelist and then subfolders with my audio files inside that
> folder Qlab would know to look in those folders for the files.

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false

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Oct 20, 2009, 5:58:14 PM10/20/09
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> Therefore you can move over your whole directory structure
> (without bundling) and QLab will still be able to find the
> files if they are in the same relative location as they were
> on the original computer.

So, I'd recommend having your workspace in the "root" folder of your directory structure, and a folder called "current" or something like that, with all the latest media. When something gets replaced, move the old file to a time-and-date named folder, and put the new file in "current". Then, when you move it, all files are still relative to the workspace as they always were, and you're less likely to run into trouble, with a solid backup system in place. Or something on those lines.

Sten

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:05:03 AM10/21/09
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Fantastic! I just simply didn't realized that it would work that
way. This is perfect.

-Sten

Jeremy Lee

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:59:13 AM10/21/09
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Hey Msr. Sten,

There are a couple of ways to do this gracefully.

Make sure the names of the drives are *exactly* the same. This goes
for both methods.

The first method is if you want/ need to put the show on the desktop,
or otherwise associated with a single user. Make sure that both user
names are the same, and that the files are in exactly the same place
in both computers. ie MacHD/QLabUser/Desktop/My Super Show.

If you don't need the files to be exclusive to a single user, or you
don't want to create a new user to match the main computer, you can
put the files on the root of the drive- ie MacHD/My Super Show/

If the drives are named the same, and the structure is the same, you
can have as elaborate of a folder structure as you'd like, and QLab
doesn't even know that it's moved. You will probably still need to
repatch Audio and MIDI devices though.

Best,

Jeremy

On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sten wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> Next question. My music department has a habit of giving me new
> files that are named exactly the same as the previous ones. I keep
> the separated by building folders based on when it was handed off to
> me. Since we have the band rehearsing in one room and tech in the
> next I've been trying to move between computers with Qlab. So far
> this is only working if I keep all the files on an external drive.
> That works for this phase of the process but I despair that once I
> start trying to move the files to the backup computer I will have to
> bundle and lose all of my folder structure.
>
> I for one didn't mind the working directory system, it made files
> easy to move around. I wonder if we could implement something like
> what MaxMSP uses where files are located either with explicit
> locations or in folders relative certain files, like the application
> and max patch that is using the files. So if I have a folder with
> Qlab cuelist and then subfolders with my audio files inside that
> folder Qlab would know to look in those folders for the files.
>

--
Jeremy Lee
Sound Designer, NYC - USA 829
http://www.jjlee.com

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