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micpool

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Feb 17, 2015, 7:44:35 PM2/17/15
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Is there a way to use an OSC data monitor to monitor a port that Qlab uses at the same time as with a MIDI monitor?

If the monitor is open and receiving on port 53000 and I open Qlab then OSC doesn't function on Qlab (including internal Qlab OSC cues).
Would it be possible for  Qlab to  give a warning if it is unable to open the OSC port on Launch because it is in use?

Conversely if Qlab is open and I launch the monitor it can't see anything on port 53000
Presumably this is to be expected.

I am using OSC Datamonitor (www.kasperkamperman.com) which seems to work very well.

Mic

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Feb 17, 2015, 8:59:50 PM2/17/15
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Wireshark, though it doesn't parse the OSC as cleanly.
https://www.wireshark.org/download.html
Charles Coes
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Andy Lang

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Feb 17, 2015, 11:50:14 PM2/17/15
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM, micpool <m...@micpool.com> wrote:
> Conversely if Qlab is open and I launch the monitor it can't see anything on
> port 53000
> Presumably this is to be expected.
>
> I am using OSC Datamonitor (www.kasperkamperman.com) which seems to work
> very well.

I'd say that's a major design oversight on Datamonitor's part, and not
at all an expected result. As Charles mentioned, Wireshark can monitor
network data transparently, as can many other packet sniffers. They
just don't parse OSC.

-Andy

Chris Ashworth

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Feb 18, 2015, 10:14:37 AM2/18/15
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On February 17, 2015 at 7:44:37 PM, micpool (m...@micpool.com) wrote:

Would it be possible for  Qlab to  give a warning if it is unable to open the OSC port on Launch because it is in use?

Sure thing, here’s a build that will do that:

http://figure53.com/temp/QLab-3.1.9-b1.zip


-C

Pierre-Luc Brunet

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Feb 18, 2015, 11:14:37 AM2/18/15
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On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 11:50:14 PM UTC-5, Andy Lang wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM, micpool <m...@micpool.com> wrote:
> Conversely if Qlab is open and I launch the monitor it can't see anything on
> port 53000
> Presumably this is to be expected.
>
> I am using OSC Datamonitor (www.kasperkamperman.com) which seems to work
> very well.

I'd say that's a major design oversight on Datamonitor's part, and not
at all an expected result. 

Is it though? Or is it just not possible to have more than one software listening to the same OSC port on one computer? From my fairly short experience with OSC, that seems to be the case unfortunately. 

Mic, I had the exact same issue / question the other day. The only solution I found so far is to send the data to another port (say 53005) to an OSC monitor software which can re-route it to QLab on port 53000. I've just been able to do this with OSCulator.

Here are a few screen shots of the setting I've done to make this work. The last screen shot show that OSCulator also cannot listen to a port which is already in use.
OSCulator 01.png
OSCulator 02 Parameters.png
OSCulator 03 - Port already in use.png

Pierre-Luc Brunet

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Feb 18, 2015, 11:25:07 AM2/18/15
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Unfortunately OSCulator is not as good as a monitor as OSC Datamonitor. (www.kasperkamperman.com).

I too wish there was a way to have multiple software listen on the same port.

micpool

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Feb 18, 2015, 11:52:39 AM2/18/15
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That build works for me

On a related thing. Should there be some indication on the main screen  that OSC or MIDI  is disabled by the Master Override controls. If that window is shut then there is no clue that this may be the culprit if MIDI or OSC cues aren't working

Mic

Sam Kusnetz

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Feb 18, 2015, 12:19:04 PM2/18/15
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Mic (and all...)

Here's a little app I built for monitoring incoming OSC messages and
forwarding them to QLab:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/maxw837e87ju7dr/OSC%20Monitor.zip?dl=0

(apologies for the large file size... Max/MSP builds apps in a sort of
brute-force way...)

Set TouchOSC to send to port 53053 and my app will display the incoming
OSC and forward it to port 53000.

Let me know if this works for you, and/or if there's anything else I can
make the app do for you.

Sam

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micpool

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Feb 18, 2015, 12:32:23 PM2/18/15
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That's unzipping to a damaged file for me. Tried downloading twice.

Mic

Sam Kusnetz

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Feb 18, 2015, 12:33:21 PM2/18/15
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AARgh.

uploading a new copy... stand by...

micpool wrote:
> That's unzipping to a damaged file for me. Tried downloading twice.

Sam Kusnetz

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Feb 18, 2015, 12:53:33 PM2/18/15
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All right...

Here's a new download link:

http://notquite.net/downloads/

Click "OSC Monitor" and away you go.

Cheers
Sam
February 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM
That's unzipping to a damaged file for me. Tried downloading twice.

Mic


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Mic (and all...)

Here's a little app I built for monitoring incoming OSC messages and forwarding them to QLab:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/maxw837e87ju7dr/OSC%20Monitor.zip?dl=0

(apologies for the large file size... Max/MSP builds apps in a sort of brute-force way...)

Set TouchOSC to send to port 53053 and my app will display the incoming OSC and forward it to port 53000.

Let me know if this works for you, and/or if there's anything else I can make the app do for you.

Sam

February 18, 2015 at 11:52 AM
That build works for me

On a related thing. Should there be some indication on the main screen  that OSC or MIDI  is disabled by the Master Override controls. If that window is shut then there is no clue that this may be the culprit if MIDI or OSC cues aren't working

Mic


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February 18, 2015 at 10:14 AM
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Sure thing, here’s a build that will do that:

http://figure53.com/temp/QLab-3.1.9-b1.zip


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February 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM
Is there a way to use an OSC data monitor to monitor a port that Qlab uses at the same time as with a MIDI monitor?

If the monitor is open and receiving on port 53000 and I open Qlab then OSC doesn't function on Qlab (including internal Qlab OSC cues).
Would it be possible for  Qlab to  give a warning if it is unable to open the OSC port on Launch because it is in use?

Conversely if Qlab is open and I launch the monitor it can't see anything on port 53000
Presumably this is to be expected.

I am using OSC Datamonitor (www.kasperkamperman.com) which seems to work very well.

Mic
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Pierre-Luc Brunet

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Feb 18, 2015, 1:17:43 PM2/18/15
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On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 12:53:33 PM UTC-5, sam kusnetz wrote:
All right...

Here's a new download link:

http://notquite.net/downloads/

Click "OSC Monitor" and away you go.

Cheers
Sam

Sam, that seems like exactly what's needed. Unfortunately it still doesn't work over here... Sorry. Oh the joy of bundling and sending max patches... I'm on Mavericks 10.9.5.
But I can certainly survive without it. Now that I understand OSCulator better I can easily switch between sending all of the OSC addresses to one program (QLab) to another (OSC Data Monitor).


 

micpool

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Feb 18, 2015, 5:28:59 PM2/18/15
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I think its the zip that's broken not the server. Still no joy. try rar?

Mic

Rich Walsh

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Feb 18, 2015, 5:42:10 PM2/18/15
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App opens fine if you disable Gatekeeper.

Zuul?

Rich

Pierre-Luc Brunet

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Feb 19, 2015, 11:22:13 AM2/19/15
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On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-5, Rich Walsh wrote:
App opens fine if you disable Gatekeeper.

Zuul?

Rich

Well look at that! It does work if one "Allows app downloaded form anywhere."
Thanks guy.
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