Re: [QLab] EQ for QLab

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Smith, Andy

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:07:04 PM4/21/10
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Just had another thought that seems to be easily overlooked...

The thing I love about Qlab is the ease with which new users are able to
get on very well after a very short space of time. The thought of
'training' them on any plug ins in addition to Qlab seems a very long
way round things. Sure, professional users have access to lots of toys
that are controllable via MIDI or access to multi tracking software or
licences, but for the newby, the stressed, the low budget users, Qlab
has thus far given real power to get creative, and personally, that's
what it is about. Qlab is so simple to use as a package, I don't want to
go outside to play!!

Any thought on the EQ Cue? Surely to pop in a 31 band EQ is as simple as
setting 31 levels, just each band is filtered to a certain frequency, or
am I missing something? Of course, doing this for multi track files
might be somewhat of a challenge!!

Andy C. Smith
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Andy Dolph

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:14:43 PM4/21/10
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It also depends on use - I really don't like graphic EQ - I really
want parametric - 4 parametric bands with the top and bottom able to
act as shelving and/or HPF/LPF like an 01v96 would be ideal - at least
for me....

Andy

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Smith, Andy <andy...@sholland.gov.uk> wrote:
> Any thought on the EQ Cue? Surely to pop in a 31 band EQ is as simple as
> setting 31 levels, just each band is filtered to a certain frequency, or
> am I missing something? Of course, doing this for multi track files
> might be somewhat of a challenge!!

Steven Devino

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:30:39 PM4/21/10
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On Apr 21, at  Apr 21, 2010 3:07 PM, Smith, Andy wrote:

Any thought on the EQ Cue? Surely to pop in a 31 band EQ is as simple as
setting 31 levels, just each band is filtered to a certain frequency, or
am I missing something?


Not sure if you are kidding. EQ always comes with phase distortion no matter how well its done. Plus everyone of those 31 bands is a resonator prone to ringing, harmonics etc.  These are just some of the reasons why most EQ's just don't sound very good. Parametric EQ's are preferred in many cases because they do less harm (fewer bands) and they are more flexible.  That being said there are very few good sounding parametric EQs around either.   

Chris is a pretty smart guy but if he pulls off a great sounding EQ it will likely be the result of many hours of study, trial and error.

Steve

Christopher Ashworth

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:37:54 PM4/21/10
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On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Steven Devino wrote:
>
> Chris is a pretty smart guy but if he pulls off a great sounding EQ
> it will likely be the result of many hours of study, trial and error.


EQ in QLab would almost certainly be based on the built-in EQ provided
by CoreAudio (which comes in the form of Audio Units), or at least the
ability to host Audio Units and thus support any EQ Audio Unit (beyond
just the built-in EQ AUs in CoreAudio).

A beta version of v2 actually included this support on a per-cue
basis, and it was pretty fun. There were some tricky issues to
resolve which is why it was pulled before the final release. I'm
looking forward to attacking it again and seeing if we can resolve
those issues.

-C

Jeremy Lee

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Apr 22, 2010, 4:16:45 AM4/22/10
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Not entirely true. Take a listen to Waves' Linear Phase EQ. Amazing. But it does cost you something like 2/3 of a second in latency...

On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Steven Devino wrote:

> Not sure if you are kidding. EQ always comes with phase distortion no matter how well its done.

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Steven Devino

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Apr 22, 2010, 6:12:33 AM4/22/10
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On Apr 22, at Apr 22, 2010 4:16 AM, Jeremy Lee wrote:

> Not entirely true. Take a listen to Waves' Linear Phase EQ. Amazing. But it does cost you something like 2/3 of a second in latency...

Yes I own it. I also own the Massenburg. These are $1000 or more either individually (Massenburg) or over $2000 as part of a package, not part of the free AU package included.

And the as you say the latency makes it useless for live work.

Steve
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