OSC Control of cues - specify audition or main?

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Bruce Wheaton

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Jul 18, 2022, 9:10:22 PM7/18/22
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It looks like if the audition window is live and I fire OSC cues, they fire in audition. 

And vice versa when not visible.

Is there anyway to 'preview in audition' so that normal OSC cue firing still goes out of the main patch?

Bruce

Bruce Wheaton

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Jul 18, 2022, 9:12:54 PM7/18/22
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I see that I could set the patch of a cue and then reset it when I'm done.. does setting the patch of a group cue affect the cues in the group by any chance?

Taylor Glad

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Jul 20, 2022, 12:43:01 AM7/20/22
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Can you expound a little more or maybe include screenshots?

What is making you say that your OSC Network cues fire in Audition? OSC cues are used to send commands to devices, not play any media. OSC cues in QLab are not affected by Audition.
Don't know what you mean "when not visible"
Don't know what you are imagining when you say "preview in audition" since Audition is the tool for previewing media when you can't or don't want to use external show devices.
Group cues also don't have patch settings, so don't know what you mean by that.

Bruce Wheaton

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Jul 20, 2022, 12:01:03 PM7/20/22
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Hey sorry Taylor - thanks for taking the time - I was inexact and you mentally interpreted OSC cues to 'OSC Network Cues'. I am firing OSC 'commands' at QLab to change some of my audio cues - the use case is a tool that will allow customization of a set of cues in the group to fit with a run-time situation.

After editing the cues with the tool, I want to offer the QLab op a way to single click preview of the resulting group without affecting what is currently playing as much as possible.

So imagine you're in the middle of Act I, cues cues cues then depending on what happened live, you need to tweak some media in Act 2. That all seems to work. But now the op needs to hear the results of their changes, and fine-tune. Previewing should affect the currently running cues as little as possible. So far, I've managed to send an OSC command that enables the Audition window/mode, and then preview the cue group. That works fine except that other cues can't be run afaict - the 'whole system' is in audition mode.

I guess what I want is to preview a group of cues in a different audio patch without changing the playhead or touching what is currently playing. I see that groups don't have a patch, thanks. I was hoping for a way to to change the patch in all cues in the group at once I guess - ideally without hard-coding cue numbers.

Bruce

Bruce Wheaton

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Jul 20, 2022, 12:08:34 PM7/20/22
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For completeness, here's the screenshot example. Note cue 101 is running in the main patch. Ideally op would be able to trigger cue 102 (go command will come from OSC to a main and backup Qlab system) .

Now the tool will change the files in the cues in Act 2 Scene 2... that works. But I'd like the user to be able to preview the entire Act 2 Scene 2 group without affecting 101, 102 etc. 

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Taylor Glad

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Jul 21, 2022, 1:27:56 AM7/21/22
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That makes a lot more sense now that you mention a second tool sending OSC.

Yeah, Audition doesn't work great for this situation. (But I hear QLab 5 will have a more selective audition mode that would work great for your situation.)


You could change the patch while editing and then change it back easily with a script (triggered by OSC) but that could be considered a little risky. (You could have this script also change the color of the cues to make it obvious that their patch is changed if your operator has view of the QLab screen)


If all of your edits are being made with this OSC tool, then maybe that tool can give identical commands to a second set of "Preview" cues all patched to a second audio patch. Then the "Preview" cues and the "Live" cues are identical except for their patch, and you can freely fire any "Preview" cue any time you want and it will never send audio down your live audio lines. Don't know if that's a reasonable option with the tool you are using.
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