Video orientation in the Audition window

[Peter Rice]

Hi

I have some videos of rehearsals I am placing into my Qlab session in order to set specific sequences to. These videos play just fine in Quicktime and VLC. However when I place them in Qlab and playback through the audition window they are rotted 180degrees. I can rectify this by using custom geometry but I then get a cross saying 'A license is required to use custom geometry' I already have a Pro Audio licence so presumably this means a Pro Video (or Bundle) license, which at this stage I don't really want or need. Other movie files behave just fine both of the .mov and mp4 types.

Why do the appear rotated..? Is there any other way to correct them without using geometry?

 

Regards,

Pete.

Peter Rice
sound design - sound operation - sound production

Phone:+44 (0)7831 276682

peterge...@gmail.com

http://www.peterricesounddesign.co.uk

[micpool]

I assume these videos have been shot on an iphone or similar being held vertically instead of horizontally .

If you open these portrait videos in Quicktime their dimensions as reported in the inspector  are as if they are landscape, but some other flag must  tell quicktime to  play them rotated in portrait

Qlab is merely following their reported dimensions faithfully.

In future ask  your reh room people to rotate their phone 90 degrees and shoot landscape like any other video camera.

You can fix your existing videos by opening them in Quicktime player and export to 480p. Then they will play portrait in the Qlab audition window

Simples

Mic

[Joshua Langman]

Peter said rotated 180 degrees. Did you mean 90 degrees?

[micpool]

Sorry, I misread. I'd have just said upside down.

Open in Quicktime player DO NOTHING Export as 480p

Tell your reh room people to hold the iphone with the lens at the top!

Mic

[Peter Rice]

Thanks Mic

Will try that tomorrow, and also have a little orientation session with the SM and iPad. 

Regards

Peter Rice

sound design - sound operation - sound production

Phone:+44 (0)7831 276682

peterge...@gmail.com

www.peterricesounddesign.co.uk

[Greg Leeper]

Open it in quicktime 7 - then open the 'Show movie properties' under the windows menu.. click on the video track - and then 'visual settings'.  You will find options to rotate the video and save it that way.

[Michael Long]

>Open it in quicktime 7...
And if you don't have Quicktime 7 Pro, I'd suggest downloading MPEG Streamclip, which is free.

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Michael Long
Projection Designer - Philadelphia

[micpool]

Greg and Michael. I don't think you have tested your solution before posting. The Quicktime 7 rotate method  doesn't work. Quicktime 7 displays an upside down shot ipad movie the right way up the same as Quicktime Player (X). Rotating it just means that both Quicktime Player and Qlab play it upside down.

Unlike Qlab3 QlabV2 will play an upside down shot iPad movie the right way up and a movie shot on an iphone in portrait as a portrait movie.   This is probably because Qlab2 uses quicktime and Qlab 3 uses AV Foundation as the video playback engine.

Mic

[Dave "luckydave" Memory]

On Friday, October 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, micpool wrote:

Greg and Michael. I don't think you have tested your solution before posting. The Quicktime 7 rotate method  doesn't work. Quicktime 7 displays an upside down shot ipad movie the right way up the same as Quicktime Player (X). Rotating it just means that both Quicktime Player and Qlab play it upside down.

It sounds like there must be some metadata that QuickTime understands, but most video engines won't recognize. That wouldn't be surprising, as it's correcting for a potential "mistake" that iOS device users may make, and Apple is making it so it doesn't need to be thought about, as Apple is wont to do.

I think exporting from Compressor, and using the Geometry controls to correct the rotation would be the best solution. Encode it as a new file, rather than saving from QuickTime, which probably just modifies that metadata. That way, you'll have a movie file that isn't compromised by corrections for mistakes, but just a good file that just works.

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