QLab on Sonoma
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Andy Dolph
Aug 21, 2025, 5:30:36 PMAug 21
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How are folks feeling about running QLab on Sonoma?
Our IT folks are pushing for us to update our QLab machines (machines that are used for one off events, not ongoing productions) to Sonoma. I'm curious about if folks are running into any issues with that at this point?
I remember there being some kind of issue with Sonoma machines and OSC networking? That could be a showstopper for us if there's not a reliable fix.
Other than that we're mostly doing pretty straight forward audio and video playback with the occasional more complex event with video mapping, multiple outputs, etc...
Thanks!
Andy
Richard Williamson
Aug 21, 2025, 5:38:54 PMAug 21
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It’s fine for us on some large scale video and audio installs. We do still have to use some scripts to fix the local network permissions bug (which is not just limited to qlab) but with the scripts in place this hasn’t been an issue
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Andy Dolph
Aug 22, 2025, 10:42:12 AMAug 22
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Would you share the script?
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Paul
Aug 22, 2025, 10:51:05 AMAug 22
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The issues around networking you allude to are related to "local network permissions" which Apple introduced in MacOS 15 Sequoia so do not affect MacOS 14 Sonoma. It's pretty hard to keep up I know with such similar names.
This is an Apple / MacOS issue, affecting anything using networking including QLab on MacOS 15; it's seems that the MacOS "loses" or "forgets" permissions for local network even once granted.
You can find a discussion about it here Hopefully Apple will get round to fixing it someday but knowing Apple I wouldn't hold your breath.
Richard Williamson
Aug 22, 2025, 10:59:49 AMAug 22
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Ah yes - apologies, but if useful the script I use to fix is below..
tell application "System Settings"
activate
delay 25
set the current pane to pane id "com.apple.settings.PrivacySecurity.extension"
delay 0.5
tell application "System Events" to tell application process "System Settings"
tell group 4 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window "Privacy & Security"
click button 9
end tell
delay 0.5
-- Toggle the checkbox for each item in Local Network
set EventArray to {"QLab"}
try
repeat with a from 1 to length of EventArray
set theCurrentListItem to item a of EventArray
tell UI element 1 of row a of outline 1 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window 1
click checkbox theCurrentListItem
delay 1
click checkbox theCurrentListItem
delay 1
end tell
-- display dialog theCurrentListItem & " is item " & a & " in the list."
end repeat
on error errstr number errorNumber
display alert "An error has occured." message "Cannot toggle item no." & a & " in Local Network. Please make sure items in EventArray are in the same order as in the Local Network window." as critical buttons {"Terminate script"} default button "Terminate script"
end try
end tell
quit
end tell
tell application "System Settings"
activate
delay 25
set the current pane to pane id "com.apple.settings.PrivacySecurity.extension"
delay 0.5
tell application "System Events" to tell application process "System Settings"
tell group 4 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window "Privacy & Security"
click button 9
end tell
delay 0.5
-- Toggle the checkbox for each item in Local Network
set EventArray to {"QLab"}
try
repeat with a from 1 to length of EventArray
set theCurrentListItem to item a of EventArray
tell UI element 1 of row a of outline 1 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of scroll area 1 of group 1 of group 2 of splitter group 1 of group 1 of window 1
click checkbox theCurrentListItem
delay 1
click checkbox theCurrentListItem
delay 1
end tell
-- display dialog theCurrentListItem & " is item " & a & " in the list."
end repeat
on error errstr number errorNumber
display alert "An error has occured." message "Cannot toggle item no." & a & " in Local Network. Please make sure items in EventArray are in the same order as in the Local Network window." as critical buttons {"Terminate script"} default button "Terminate script"
end try
end tell
quit
end tell
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Andy Dolph
Aug 22, 2025, 11:14:11 AMAug 22
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Thank you all!
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Andy Dolph
Aug 22, 2025, 11:15:24 AMAug 22
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Richard, do you run that script on boot as an application in login items? Or do you run it from Qlab?
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Chris Devlin
Aug 27, 2025, 5:49:10 AM (10 days ago) Aug 27
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I too would love to know where you're implementing this script, we have the same issue with NDI
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