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Mark Tarver

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Mar 14, 2013, 7:21:18 AM3/14/13
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Shen 9 more or less out of the way; I thought I'd announce the Shen
wiki.

http://shen-wiki.tiodante.com/

which will in due course have links from the Shen website. Bruno,
whose web mastery is much greater than mine, is responsible for this
and maintains it. So further questions are best addressed to him.

You're pretty much free to do your own Shen-related thing on the
Wiki. My only remark is please not to copy large slabs from the Shen
site or other people's weblogs because

a. Reduplication is not very useful.
b. Generally lifting stuff is not netiquette. Put a pointer in if
you feel the need to refer to what somebody has written.
c. Wikis are about doing *your* thing; a space to be creative in.

I've transferred mat'l on concurrency and native calls to the wiki
because it is outside the spec and people are welcome to contribute.
Concurrency is at the moment rather blank.

Use it wisely and have fun.

Mark

Bruno Deferrari

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Mar 14, 2013, 8:30:34 AM3/14/13
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The permissions are very open right now (anyone can edit it without
even signing up) but it would be great if everyone signs up to have an
account anyway in case we decide to change this in the future.

Information about MoinMoin's syntax (for anyone who like myself
doesn't want to use the WYSIWYG editor) can be found here:

http://shen-wiki.tiodante.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax

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Mark Tarver

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Jun 10, 2013, 6:24:26 AM6/10/13
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The link is on the community page.

Mark

On May 14, 3:57 pm, Răzvan Rotaru <razvan.rot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd suggest to put a link to the wiki on the main site.
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> Răzvan

Mark Tarver

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:39:25 PM6/12/13
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I just checked the wiki - it seems that the front page has been hacked
and replaced by an ad for kitchen knives.

Mark

Mark Tarver

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:44:58 PM6/12/13
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Still checking - from the recent changes page there has been a massive
amount of spamming and general hacking in the last few days. I cannot
locate any valid page in the recent change and hence cannot trigger an
undo on the changes made.

I think that a previous suggestion I made re the wiki needs to be
carried forward and public access needs to be dropped in favour of
some scheme by which people apply to be editors.

Mark

Mark Tarver

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:57:43 PM6/12/13
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I'm reading a very nice recipe for red snapper on the Shen wiki
together with handy hints on making a pizza which is probably more
generally useful then my remarks on KLambda. Is it vandalism or is it
self-expression and as one modern art critic asked 'Am I holding this
the right way up?'. Who knows? I'm off to bed.

Mark

jo...@mentics.com

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Jun 12, 2013, 7:58:17 PM6/12/13
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I had the same problem on my wiki. You have to require authorization
(people can register). Then you can try to revert because when it was
happening to mine, it was continually being spammed, so reverting
wouldn't have helped until I blocked the spam.

Greg Spurrier

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Jun 12, 2013, 11:10:09 PM6/12/13
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I agree that access controls are warranted. Especially since the wiki was starting to become the place of record for refinements to the KLambda specification.

Have you considered creating a public project for Shen on GitHub? In addition to making it easier for people to access the Shen sources and to submit contributions, GitHub also provides optional issue tracking and wiki pages.

Greg

Mark Tarver

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Jun 13, 2013, 4:13:12 AM6/13/13
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Bruno set it up and I'm quite happy with what he did and for him to
run it - it just needs some access controls which any wiki will have
to have wherever sited. I suggested making all members of the 2011
committee editors and allowing other people in by application.

Regarding the latter, no. Github is free for OS but Shen is not
technically OS. The Github development model is fine for the libraries
but not for the kernel.

Mark

Bruno Deferrari

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Jun 13, 2013, 2:05:41 PM6/13/13
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The changes were reverted. I have also disabled edits by users that
are not logged in, I hope this fixes the issue.

If one day we decide to migrate to Github's wiki pandoc[1] can be used
to convert wiki pages to markdown (which is the format Github uses for
their wiki) automatically.

[1] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
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