dbRDA, R and Qiime

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garlicscape

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Feb 26, 2013, 5:00:35 PM2/26/13
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So, I've run dbRDA in qiime, but I need to run it in R, in part for graphics and in part because I have two treatments which could be interacting.
I ran dbRDA on my own but got different results in R from the same analysis in Qiime. The total inertia is the same, but the constrained and unconstrained axes inertias are quite different (in some cases an order of magnitude different).

I am still a bit new to R, so I assumed I loaded my data incorrectly or something. I have been working with the R scripts provided by Qiime (I'm using Qiime1.6). I am not totally confident I have done everything correctly, but I am still getting different results from Qiime and from R for the same analysis. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me why.
These are my Qiime results from dbRDA:

              Inertia Proportion Rank
Total          0.3910     1.0000     
Constrained    0.1180     0.3017    1
Unconstrained  0.2730     0.6983    8
Inertia is squared Unknown distance 

Eigenvalues for constrained axes:
  CAP1 
0.1180 

Eigenvalues for unconstrained axes:
    MDS1     MDS2     MDS3     MDS4     MDS5     MDS6     MDS7     MDS8 
0.148233 0.052007 0.029738 0.019791 0.010449 0.007996 0.003089 0.001697 

and these are the R results:

              Inertia Proportion Rank
Total         0.39096    1.00000     
Constrained   0.01210    0.03095    1
Unconstrained 0.37886    0.96905    8
Inertia is squared Unknown distance 

Eigenvalues for constrained axes:
  CAP1 
0.0121 

Eigenvalues for unconstrained axes:
    MDS1     MDS2     MDS3     MDS4     MDS5     MDS6     MDS7     MDS8 
0.241903 0.053415 0.032399 0.022755 0.016641 0.006657 0.003601 0.001485 


I loaded all the functions in loaddata.r included in the qiime support_files into R.
I wasn't sure, though, how to use the dbrda.r script from support_files... so once I loaded the files I just ran dbrda using commands towards the bottom of the dbrda.r script.
Here is what I did:

#put functions loaddata.r into workspace

distmat<-load.qiime.distance.matrix(filepath="Desktop/Niwot/Analyses/R/Bacteria/DB/weighted_unifrac_rarefaction_1727_29.txt")

map<-load.qiime.mapping.file(filepath="Desktop/Niwot/Analyses/R/Bacteria/DB/NiwotB_D_map.txt")

otus<-load.qiime.otu.table(filepath="Desktop/Niwot/Analyses/R/Bacteria/DB/rarefaction_1727_29.txt",include.lineages=FALSE)

qiime.data<-remove.nonoverlapping.samples(map=map,otus=otus,distmat=distmat)


N=as.factor(map$Fertilizer)

factors.frame<-data.frame(N)

capscale.results <- capscale(as.dist(qiime.data$distmat) ~ N, factors.frame)


My Qiime command was: compare_categories.py --method adonis -i beta/distance_matrix/weighted_unifrac_rarefaction_1727_29.txt -m NiwotB_D_map.txt -c Fertilizer -o stats -n 999


Jai Ram Rideout

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Feb 26, 2013, 5:31:10 PM2/26/13
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Hi Sarah,

I was already helping you on another thread with this same issue. Let's continue our discussion in the other thread:


Thanks,
Jai


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