lost twice to the same player

[Mike]

I lost to the same player twice and was eliminated, did this happen to anyone else?

I don't think double eliminations should have you going against the same person twice. 

Mike

[spongman]

i don't think there's way to exclude such a case, for example, you
might lose to the overall winner in the 1st round, and then you might
lose to him again in the final round.

it does seem strange that you should be pitted against the same player
twice in a row so early on in the competition. however, in theory you
would either be bound to meet him twice, or someone better than him.

[spongman]

no matter, your msrylander2 player is better. it's a good thing your
other player lost. it would be awfaully embarrasing to have to beat
yourself ;-)

[Claus Makowka]

I encountered the same situation. It is an unfortunate property of
how players are dropped to the lower bracket. To wit, if player A
beats player B and in the next round player A loses, then player A is
very likely to have a "rematch" with player B within a small number of
rounds. So it appears to be particularly bad luck in the initial
seeding to be paired with another player who is "slightly stronger".

As has already been commented, once player A beats player B, it is
inevitable that they will have a rematch unless one of them is
eliminated before that can happen. While it would be nice to have
that rematch delayed as long as possible, I do not see any systematic
way to ensure this.

The claim to fame of the double elimination tournament is that the
second best team should be able to win second place and in general the
better teams should get to play more. But the second point is not
guaranteed. In a particularly unfortunate seeding the fourth best
team could be eliminated by the second round no matter how many teams
are playing. (Round one #1 beats #2, #3 beats #4 and in round 2 #2
beats #4 in the lower bracket, and #4 is out even though there are
still weaker teams in the upper bracket! Similarly, Round one #1
beats #3 and #2 wins against whoever, round two #1 beats #2, round
three #2 beats #3 in the lower bracket, and #3 is eliminated.)

Claus

[Mike]

@ Spongman

I find that very amusing, msrylander2 is actually the java example player. I only submitted two players by accident and deiced to overwrite one with what I figured would be a base line player. I would like to see a round robin between the example players to see if using one language over another gave you a better starting position. 

Although a double elimination tournament is more interesting to watch, I think a round robin would give more accurate results for who created the best player (and give me a better indicator of where I ranked overall). 

I wonder if we could stage a continuation of the contest and continue to develop our players for another few months. 

Mike