From Terrorist to High Ranking Political Bureaucrat
G.C.
In article <57g4s8$gvu$1...@news.iq.ca>, t...@not-here.net says...
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>I don't know the specifics. Maybe someone else could fill them in.
>
>Someone (Gaetan Desrosier) in the Quebec government admits to placing
>a bomb (La Grenade shoe factory) during the 60's or 70's that killed a
>woman and injuried others. He was a member of an extremist political party
>(FLQ). He has never been charged nor imprisoned but now holds a high
>ranking position the the Quebec government (Associate Deputy Minister).
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>T.O.P.
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Whether he was actually a member of the FLQ, or if he was never
charged and convicted, I don't know. He had admitted, as a witness,
that he was the "messenger" that delivered the bomb.
G.C.
Linka
Paul Rodgers wrote:
> He was found guilty of his political act, and sentenced to a prison term.
> Not only did he paid his due to society, but proved himself to have been
> completely rehabilitated. Therefore, has live an exemplary life ever since.
>
En plus, comme il n'avait que 17 ans au moment de ces actes, son dossier
judiciaire a ete efface automatiquement a sa majorite, ce qui est la
procedure judiciaire normale dans ce pays. Nul adulte ne peut etre tenu
responsable des actes qu'il a commis alors qu'il etait mineur, ce qui
explique la raison pour laquelle les noms des mineurs accuses ne sont
jamais divulgues lors des proces (afin de ne pas leur nuir lorsqu'ils
seront adultes).
Serge Levesque
t...@not-here.net (The Omnipotent Philosopher) wrote:
>I don't know the specifics. Maybe someone else could fill them in.
>Someone (I don't know his name) in the Quebec government admits to placing a
>bomb (somewhere) during the 60's or 70's that killed a woman and injuried
>others. He was a member of an extremist political party (FLQ?).
The FLQ never was a political party !
Wes Warner
In message <329CA57E.6BEB@pas_mal.net> - Linka <wow@pas_mal.net>Wed, 27 Nov
1996 12:33:02 -0800 writes:
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*** On the other hand the vast majority
of people in Quebec were not involved
in murdering anyone. Some of these
would also be qualified for the job.
Unfortunately it seems no one else
was as well connected.
The relatives of the person killed,
and the people wounded, are paying
taxes that go towards his take home
pay. They have no choice in this,
but I doubt they like it much.
Society has a duty to itself to put up
a high barrier to rewarding violence
or seeming to. Government, to the
extent that it represents society
has a greater social duty than other employers.
Hiring Rose, an actual convicted murderer, not
an accompolice, into the educational
system - an arm of government - stinks
more, an tells me all I need to know
about those in charge of education/indoctrination
in Quebec.
Wes
Wes Warner
In message <57idv9$rcl$1...@news1.sympatico.ca> - serge.l...@sympatico.ca
(Serge Levesque)Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:04:23 GMT writes:
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*** The IRA isn't really an army either
but both IRA and FLQ are/were very political.
The underground action arm of people
seeking political legitimacy.
Wes
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Paul Rodgers
On Wed, 27 Nov 1996 01:13:53 GMT, t...@not-here.net (The Omnipotent Philosopher)
wrote:
>I don't know the specifics. Maybe someone else could fill them in.
>
>Someone (I don't know his name) in the Quebec government admits to placing a
His name is Gaëtan Desrosiers. At the age of 17 , he admited to placing a box
containing a bomb in factory located on Rachelle Street, Montreal.
He was found guilty of his political act, and sentenced to a prison term.
Not only did he paid his due to society, but proved himself to have been
completely rehabilitated. Therefore, has live an exemplary life ever since.
>bomb (somewhere) during the 60's or 70's that killed a woman and injuried
>others. He was a member of an extremist political party (FLQ?). He has never
>been charged nor imprisoned but now holds a high ranking position the the Quebec
>government (Assistant Deputy Minister?).
Paul Rodgers
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" La déclaration unilatérale d'indépendance est
l'ultime symbole de la liberté d'un peuple."
Pierre Bourgault
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Serge Levesque
t...@not-here.net (The Omnipotent Philosopher) wrote:
>I don't know the specifics. Maybe someone else could fill them in.
Ok, I will share the infos that I have on this bomb attack with you.
>Someone (I don't know his name) in the Quebec government admits to placing a
>bomb (somewhere) during the 60's or 70's that killed a woman and injuried
>others.
The date you're looking for is "May 5, 1966". The victim's name was
Thérèse Morin, and she was 64 when was killed.
Here's what happened, according to my book "Alerte Citoyens"
The book is in french so I'll will quote it exactly as it is written.
Here goes :
"En 1966, une partie du Front de Liberation du Quebec devient
ouvertement le defenseur des travailleurs et se manifeste surtout a
l'occasion des greves. Ainsi, le 5 mai 1966, le F.L.Q. veut protester
contre l'attitude des proprietaires de la manufacture de chaussures
'La Grenade". Les employes, faisant partie d'un syndicat de la
C.S.N., ont declanche une greve; les patrons engagent des "scabs" pour
continuer la production. Resultat: la greve se poursuit. Pour
accelerer la marche des operations et amener les patrons a accepter
les revendications des ouvriers, le F.L.Q. depose une bombe dans les
bureaux de la manufacture La Grenade. L'un des membres du reseau
telephone, avertissant qu'une bombe doit exploser. On ne tient pas
compte de l'appel, car les menaces ont plu depuis quelque temps. Peu
apres l'heure du lunch, l'engin explose, tuant une des employees, Mlle
Thérèse Morin, 64 ans, et blessant trois autres personnes.
Dans "La Cognée", numero d'octobre 1966, il est fait mention de
l'attentat: "Nous ne desapprouvons pas l'operation LA GRENADE (...)
qui fut une reussite a tous les points de vue, la mort d'une vieille
demoiselle etant imputable au criminel entetement de ses patrons a ne
pas considerer un certain avertissement telephonique."
La greve se termina d'ailleurs le jour meme de l'attentat.
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Source: LACOURSIERE, Jacques . Alarme Citoyens, Les editions la
presse, p. 69
> He was a member of an extremist political party (FLQ?).
The F.L.Q. was a terrorist group, not a political party.
But anyway, in "The Gazette" ( a Montreal Newspaper ) there is an
article on this that I will quote the following from :
" In 1967, at the age of 18, Gaetan Desrosier testified in open court
in the trial Richard Bouchoux, the he (Desrosier) was the messenger
who delivered a bomb to the La Grenade shoe factory on Rachel St., The
bombing, on May 5, 1966, killled 64-year-old Thérèse Morin and
injured several other employees, including a pregnant woman who had
come to collect her paycheque."
" The bombing marked the first time the separatist Front de Liberation
du Quebec (FLQ) had targeted a busy area in broad daylight. Prior to
that, it had avoided harming members of the public by setting bombs to
go off at night or in isolated places."
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Source: The Gazette, Montreal, Wednesday, November 27, 1996
Page: A-14
> He has never been charged nor imprisoned
I don't have enough data to answer that one, sorry. But maybe the
fact that he was only 17 at the time when this happened might have
something to do with it. There is no mention of the verdict in the
newspaper article nor in my book so I don't know what was the jury's
decision.
> but now holds a high ranking position the the Quebec
> government (Assistant Deputy Minister?).
Obviously, This is not for me to explain or justify, but Mr. Bouchard
said neither he nor, to his knowledge, any other member of his cabinet
had been informed about Desrosier's past before approving his
nomination.
When asked whether his decision would have been the same if he had
known about it, Mr. Bouchard said the followint to the National
Assembly:
" I am convinced that, without concluding right away what I would have
done, I would have given myself some time for reflection."
" I am convinced that we would have considered the aspect of
rehabilitation and the right of a young person to remake their life."
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That's all the infos I have on this. Hope that helps...
Have a nice day,
Serge
Serge Levesque
w...@servtech.com (Wes Warner) wrote:
>:> The FLQ never was a political party !
>*** The IRA isn't really an army either
> but both IRA and FLQ are/were very political.
> The underground action arm of people
> seeking political legitimacy.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but even though the
FLQ's goals were political in nature, that didn't necessarily make
them a political party. Keep in mind that nobody elected them into
power, and no one gave them the mandate to attack people, let alone
kill them. I sincerely hope this is not what you're trying to imply
here, Wes.
The Omnipotent Philosopher
dn...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Jane Scharf) wrote:
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>>>*** The IRA isn't really an army either
>>> but both IRA and FLQ are/were very political.
>>> The underground action arm of people
>>> seeking political legitimacy.
>>
>>
>> I understand the point you're trying to make, but even though the
>> FLQ's goals were political in nature, that didn't necessarily make
>> them a political party. Keep in mind that nobody elected them into
>> power, and no one gave them the mandate to attack people, let alone
>> kill them. I sincerely hope this is not what you're trying to imply
>> here, Wes.
>>
>> Serge
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>Who gets to make up the rules as to what constitutes a real party? It
>seems to me that your arguing that only the state itself can define
>political entities.
>Jane Scharf
You might want to consider posting your follow-ups to all the newsgroups
originally posted to. I've takin the liberty of adding them.
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T.O.P.
"...all work is creative work if done by a thinking mind, and
no work is creative if done by a blank who repeats in uncritical
stupor a routine he has learned from others -- that your work is
yours to choose, and the choice is as wide as your mind, that
nothing more is possible to you and nothing less is human --
that to cheat your way into a job bigger than your mind can
handle is to become a fear-corroded ape on borrowed motions and
borrowed time, and to settle down into a job that requires less
than your mind's full capacity is to cut your motor and sentence
yourself to another kind of motion: decay"
(John Galt, Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand)
philippe-carole
As I can see Anthony, your contribution to the debate is above all very
poor. If you want feedback write something intelligent.
By putting every body in the same basket you show the pettyfull state of
your neurological system.
Please help us to elevate the debate a little bit.
I can understand that you are scared of the PQ. I would, if I were
you.
There is no such thing as a perfect society. As far as I am concern, I
judge a person to his capacity to transmit his message.
Facism was an awfull moment in the history of mankind. With all my
respect, I must say that using this qualificative will not make you look
more intelligent.
Sincerly
Philippe Lubenstein