PyDev/Eclipse formatter

[atulDOTkhotATGmailDOTcom]

Dear all,

     Being an eclipse guy - I tinker with python using Aptana Pydev...

It is a very nice one btw...

Somehow when I copy some code snippet - a quick Shift+Ctrl+F does nothing

(the key is bound correctly to format code)...

     I like any code properly formatted - and for python it is anyway required 

Anyone using the same environ - know what I could be missing? 

--- cheerio atul

[atulDOTkhotATGmailDOTcom]

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7654267/indent-python-file-with-pydev-in-eclipse

implies that it cannot be done!

Think it is not supported in PyDev as of now...

http://www.mail-archive.com/pydev...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03313.html

--- cheerio atul

[Imran Ahmed]

Even I use  Aptana Pydev in eclipse. Shift+Ctrl+F works for me.

[atulDOTkhotATGmailDOTcom]

Hi Imran,

        Thanks for your note! The stack overflow post made me think it is a tough feature to support. 

         However, I pasted the code in vim(version 7.3.429):

doing gg=G does a much better job...

         Pydev formatting does not work for me though... 

The Ctrl+1 quickfix also sadly does not understand the <INDENT> error...

(The funny thing is while keying in the code - it does the right thing) - Let me update the plugin and see...

         

  

            

--- cheerio atul

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Imran Ahmed <imranah...@gmail.com> wrote:

Even I use  Aptana Pydev in eclipse. Shift+Ctrl+F works for me.

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[Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे]

May not be the answer you are looking for - but have you tried PyCharm ?

I had tried PyDev few years ago - it was too heavy (memory hog/slow) for me. Went back to vim.

when PyCharm released community edition, I gave it a try, and believe me it has become my primary IDE

It supports vim keybindings is an icing on the cake

-Mandar

[atulDOTkhotATGmailDOTcom]

Thanks Mandar for the pointer! I downloaded it - as I see this is a jetbrains offering...

Their Java IDE was revered by many... 

     I will try and adopt it - I love PyDev too - PyDev's unit testing support seems so similar to Junit - and that is just great - just keep the bar going green spirit ;-)

     OTOH I thought about "why the IDEs can't do much w.r.t. auto-indentation" theme - and it is making sense - for example,

how would an IDE know that it should decrease the indend of the following:

class TypedList:

...

    def __getitem__(self, i):

       return self.elements[i]  # rest of the code snipped

# Here - how does the ide know about the python idiom  __name__ == "__main__"???

# and decrese the indent? 

if __name__ == "__main__":

    import doctest

    doctest.testmod()

This is arguable - but I think I kind of understand why PyDev may not handle it...

--- cheerio atul

[Prahalad Deshpande]

Interesting discussion! :-). When I was a novice python guy and even now .. I wonder and yearn for a really smart Python IDE (on the lines of Visual Studio or what Jetbrains/Eclipse have for Java) which supports stuff like refactoring, extracting methods from code - automatic renaming of classes within a package etc...

Having said that I definitely vote for PyDev/Aptana as a mature Python IDE - I haven't tried PyCharm. :-(.

Also my personal ( and possibly incorrect) opinion  on Atul's interesting question about IDE recognizing the correct indentation - I think auto-indentation of a line of code takes place based on the context surrounding that line( whether the line is a part of a method body or that of a condition etc..). But to achieve absolutely correct indentation, merely understanding surrounding context is not enough - the intent also needs to be understood.  Hence for e.g. in the code snippet provided by Atul above, the programmer may actually want to perform the check if __name__ == "__main__"  within one of the class methods and execute some debugging logic. What this means that the final responsibility for specifying the correct context in which a line of code is the responsibility of the programmer and IDEs would probably want to keep it that way.

Thanks

-Prahalad