Is Pynie Dead?

[John Rizzo]

Hey guys I am interested in language development and I was looking at Parrot and Pynie.  Before I go too far down the rabbit hole I was wondering if this project is still active.  The last commit appears to be from Feb 2010.

Thank

John

[Allison Randal]

It's in suspended animation. We put it on hold for some changes in the
Parrot tool chain. Look at Puffin (Google Summer of Code project) for
the most recent work on Python on Parrot:
https://bitbucket.org/lucian1900/puffin. The general idea of Puffin was
to try out a new approach, and then restart Pynie along those lines if
it worked out well.

If you're interested in contributing to Python on Parrot, I'd be happy
to help you get started. But, if you're looking for a model to use as a
base for implementing some other language, then I'll point you at other
projects depending on the kind of language you're interested in.

Allison

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[John Rizzo]

I'm definitely interested in contributing to get python on parrot.  I'm trying to learn more about language design in general and the relationship between the language, compiler and kernel/vm. 

I'm going to check it out today and try to get familiar with the code base.  Do you guys ever hang on irc?  I'm in the UK but I'll try to stay on the irc channel and see if anyone is around.

John Rizzo
johnr...@gmail.com

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[Sean Smith]

I once had this same ambition. Then I lost the time I had planned to use for pynie. I could be a casual contributor if significant development picks up.

Where I left off, I was learning that some internal objects from perl6 were reused for pynie unchanged. However, some of their built-in behaviors did not match python's expected behaviors. I wanted to be able to share data directly with perl6 at runtime, so using the same object types was good, but I couldn't figure out how to reuse the same objects and define different behaviors for things like string conversion, Boolean conversion, etc.

I also hadn't quite understood the machinery used to do parsing and so on. There was an awful lot of thinly documented magic at work there.

All of this was years ago. Much may have changed since then. Please do report back what you find. I hope you inspire me to try again.

- Sean

[John Rizzo]

Well so far I've been able to check out both pynie and puffin and made a few updates which allowed them both to build.  Now I'm trying to understand how both work and see if I'm brave enough to complete/merge the puffin work into pynie.  I have no idea if that is the best course of action but I'm sure as I start to gain a better understanding I'll be able to see what really needs to be done.  

It was a bit confusing given all the locations for code, documentation, etc.

https://launchpad.net/~pynie-dev

https://bitbucket.org/allison/pynie

https://bitbucket.org/lucian1900/puffin

http://code.google.com/p/pynie/

http://pynie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

I wasn't sure which was exactly the latest but I forked both allison's pynie from bitbucket and lucian1900's puffin from bitbucket and I'm doing my work in those forks.  Feel free to take a look at my work but don't expect too much just yet.  I'm still learning.

https://bitbucket.org/johnrizzo1/pynie

https://bitbucket.org/johnrizzo1/puffin

John Rizzo
johnr...@gmail.com