Book on Pyramid

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Steve Piercy

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Jun 30, 2017, 4:13:57 PM6/30/17
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Howdy,

If you are interested in writing a book about Pyramid, please
contact Todd Green from Apress as follows.

Todd Green
Editorial Director, Apress
phone: +1 212 460-1622
email: todd....@apress.com
twitter: @ApressToddGreen

I'm passing along this information in hopes that one of y'all
might be available.

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Carlos de la Guardia

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Jul 13, 2017, 2:33:02 PM7/13/17
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Hi,

lets say I'm interested. What do people on this list think such a book should cover. How can it be useful to both beginners and long time users?

Carlos de la Guardia



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Aniruddha Gaikwad

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Jul 13, 2017, 3:53:01 PM7/13/17
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Hi,

I feel book should be for anyone with knowledge of Python & web application development.  Broadly have 2 section. First section covers templating, configuration using some examples.  Second part talk about pyramid code, mostly targeting to users who want to contribute in framework.


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Vinicius Assef

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I'd suggest topics about:

- recommended or much used packages, e.g., jinja2 or chameleon; WTForm or Deform; etc.
- authentication & authorization;
- overriding artifacts, e.g., templates;
- database transaction management.



On Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:33:02 UTC-3, cguardia wrote:
Hi,

lets say I'm interested. What do people on this list think such a book should cover. How can it be useful to both beginners and long time users?

Carlos de la Guardia
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Steve Piercy <steve.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy,

If you are interested in writing a book about Pyramid, please contact Todd Green from Apress as follows.

Todd Green
Editorial Director, Apress
phone:   +1 212 460-1622
email:   todd....@apress.com
twitter: @ApressToddGreen

I'm passing along this information in hopes that one of y'all might be available.


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Steve Piercy

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On 7/13/17 at 1:32 PM, carlos.de...@gmail.com (Carlos de
la Guardia) pronounced:

>lets say I'm interested. What do people on this list think such a book
>should cover. How can it be useful to both beginners and long time users?

I'd steer away from a topic-based approach. The narrative docs
do that already.

I think the greatest need is how to create useful services or
applications beyond just a demo. Michael Kennedy of Talk Python
to Me has excellent training courses/videos/code repositories
that touch on dozens of web application development topics. He
happens to use Pyramid for some of his courses. Python for
Entrepreneurs walks a beginner through how to create a website
for startup business.
https://training.talkpython.fm/courses/all

Other than that, I think the frequently asked questions concern
the following:
* How do I create a RESTful API or service in Pyramid?
* How do I use <javascript framework of the month> with Pyramid?
* How should I implement secure account management (register,
authentication, authorization, password reset, password change)?

--steve

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Christoph Zwerschke

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Am 14.07.2017 um 09:50 schrieb Steve Piercy:
> * How do I use <javascript framework of the month> with Pyramid?

The book should distinguish between JavaScript-enhanced server-side
PYramid applications and use of Pyramid as the backend for single-page
applications. In the latter case you would use Pyramid only as a GraphQL
or REST server, and for providing additional pages that cannot be
produced easily using JavaScript like PDF reports.

-- Chris

Alvaro Aguirre

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Hi,

I'd be good to explain a bit about the history of the framework, how it relates to Zope (and not), but I believe I'd be very interesting to tell something how python frameworks have evolved and where Pyramid stands as part of this process.

Alvaro.

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Torsten Irländer

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Hi,
I would like to see a the security topic being covered. I would like to see how to handle  the TOP10 OWASP security threats in Pyramid by simple examples. Just to get the idea for those who are new to this and make others aware that this is an important part of web development. I think this should be pretty unique.

Another topic which I personally found of much value was testing and profiling the application.

Torsten


Alvaro Aguirre <shi...@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 14. Juli 2017, 21:23:
Hi,

I'd be good to explain a bit about the history of the framework, how it relates to Zope (and not), but I believe I'd be very interesting to tell something how python frameworks have evolved and where Pyramid stands as part of this process.

Alvaro.
2017-07-14 6:10 GMT-03:00 Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@online.de>:
Am 14.07.2017 um 09:50 schrieb Steve Piercy:
> * How do I use <javascript framework of the month> with Pyramid?

The book should distinguish between JavaScript-enhanced server-side PYramid applications and use of Pyramid as the backend for single-page applications. In the latter case you would use Pyramid only as a GraphQL or REST server, and for providing additional pages that cannot be produced easily using JavaScript like PDF reports.

-- Chris


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Sheila Allen

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There could be a chapter on building opinionated web frameworks on top of Pyramid, referring to some of the real world examples such as Substance D, and Cornice.  



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Hi,
I would like to see a the security topic being covered. I would like to see how to handle  the TOP10 OWASP security threats in Pyramid by simple examples. Just to get the idea for those who are new to this and make others aware that this is an important part of web development. I think this should be pretty unique.

Another topic which I personally found of much value was testing and profiling the application.

Torsten

Alvaro Aguirre <shi...@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 14. Juli 2017, 21:23:
Hi,

I'd be good to explain a bit about the history of the framework, how it relates to Zope (and not), but I believe I'd be very interesting to tell something how python frameworks have evolved and where Pyramid stands as part of this process.

Alvaro.
2017-07-14 6:10 GMT-03:00 Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@online.de>:
Am 14.07.2017 um 09:50 schrieb Steve Piercy:
> * How do I use <javascript framework of the month> with Pyramid?

The book should distinguish between JavaScript-enhanced server-side PYramid applications and use of Pyramid as the backend for single-page applications. In the latter case you would use Pyramid only as a GraphQL or REST server, and for providing additional pages that cannot be produced easily using JavaScript like PDF reports.

-- Chris


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Lukasz Szybalski

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Aug 24, 2017, 11:15:16 PM8/24/17
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Feel free to use any content from:
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/Pyramid

Mike Orr

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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Christoph Zwerschke <ci...@online.de> wrote:
> In the latter case you would use Pyramid only as a GraphQL or REST server,

I just attended a Javascript conference and there was a talk on
GraphQL and I was quite impressed. I haven't used it yet but it allows
users to to get the schema of the data and make specific queries about
which fields and types of embedded objects they want, thus saving
bandwidth. I've made some REST services and found several aspects
tedious. So it would be great to give an example of GraphQL. Maybe
it's not widespread enough to be in a book, but on the other hand, how
are newcomers going to try promising new techniques if they're not in
books?
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