pylonshq.com became slower again

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myha...@gmail.com

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Nov 24, 2006, 2:18:15 AM11/24/06
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it spend a long long time to enter into wiki page in pylonshq.com
again.
please solve it,Ben.

Ben Bangert

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Nov 24, 2006, 2:53:46 AM11/24/06
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The setup hasn't changed in the past 2 weeks. I can only presume you
are visiting it from overseas, have a poor connection, or are
visiting during a spidering or something. Generally, its gone rather
fast for me, but I'm probably fewer hops away. The Wiki runs off
Trac, and I'm not entirely sure how to make it go any faster, or why
it isn't *fast* to begin with. Any suggestions on making Trac faster
would be great.

Cheers,
Ben

Alexandre CONRAD

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Nov 24, 2006, 7:46:45 AM11/24/06
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>>it spend a long long time to enter into wiki page in pylonshq.com
>>again.
>>please solve it,Ben.
>
>
> The setup hasn't changed in the past 2 weeks. I can only presume you
> are visiting it from overseas, have a poor connection, or are
> visiting during a spidering or something. Generally, its gone rather
> fast for me, but I'm probably fewer hops away. The Wiki runs off
> Trac, and I'm not entirely sure how to make it go any faster, or why
> it isn't *fast* to begin with. Any suggestions on making Trac faster
> would be great.

I have the same problem, browsing the "Wiki" menu takes ages. I have an
8mb/s ADSL line here in France.

I have no problem browsing the rest of the site, so I suppose this
problem is not about my internet connexion.

To give you (and myself) a precise idea of how long it takes to load a
page, I took my stop watch and click some links. It turns out that every
link clicked under the wiki menu takes *exactly* 60 seconds. I don't
mean 55 or 63 seconds. I mean precisely 60 seconds.

It would be interesting to see if this particular timing applies to all
the other users having this Wiki problem.

I wonder if there isn't some kind of setting somewhere when a request
calls the wiki page... some unsuccessful control done somewhere with a
60 seconds timeout, or I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud.

Regards,
--
Alexandre CONRAD

James Gardner

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Nov 24, 2006, 8:11:24 AM11/24/06
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Hi all,

I bet I know what is causing this. The keep-alive timeout is set to 60
seconds so the browser is waiting unnecessarily for 60 seconds before
showing the page. It works fine in firefox 2.0 for me, IE 6 shows the
page but still waits 60 seconds before finishing the loading. I've been
bitten by this in the past.

Which browsers are you using that are having the problems?

Cheers,

James

tsidwick

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Nov 24, 2006, 8:51:46 AM11/24/06
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Hi,

Are the pages actually slow to show in the navigator or is it just
that the spinner spins ?

I'm in France too and the pages are reasonably quick to load but my
Firefox page loading icon spins for a further 60 seconds.

From looking at the headers this looks to me like the 60 second
timeout in the keep-alive header that is sent back by the trac pages.

Tom

Alexandre CONRAD

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Nov 24, 2006, 8:55:09 AM11/24/06
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> I bet I know what is causing this. The keep-alive timeout is set to 60
> seconds so the browser is waiting unnecessarily for 60 seconds before
> showing the page. It works fine in firefox 2.0 for me, IE 6 shows the
> page but still waits 60 seconds before finishing the loading. I've been
> bitten by this in the past.
>
> Which browsers are you using that are having the problems?

I'm on an XP SP2 machine here. My browser is FF 2.0 (and I'm pretty sure
I had this problem before 2.0 came out). Also have the same problem with
IE 6.0 and Netscape 7.2 as well. All browser settings are set as default.

The "Wiki" section is just unbrowsable. I have no problem browsing any
other web sites on internet. And even pylonshq.com works fine, except
for pages under the "Wiki" button. I bet it's a trac setting somewhere.

Regards,
--
Alexandre CONRAD

Jose Galvez

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Nov 27, 2006, 12:43:53 AM11/27/06
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I'm having the same problem n FF2.0 on winxp. The wiki is almost unusable.
Jose

Michael G. Noll

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Nov 27, 2006, 6:57:10 AM11/27/06
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Firefox 2.0, Mac OSX.

- wiki pages load fast for me, i.e. until all of the actual content is
*displayed*
- wiki pages take 60secs to finish *loading*

The wiki is perfectly usable IMHO even though the unnecessary loading
delay doesn't "look" that beautiful.

Michael

James Gardner

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Nov 27, 2006, 7:03:54 AM11/27/06
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Hi Jose,

It's strange that it works on firefox 2.0 WinXP for me but not for you.
Maybe it is a proxy issue?

There are some notes here about various firefox settings which you might
want to tweak:
http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/firefox/firefox-8.shtml

If you enter about:config in the address bar and press enter you can
change them. I'd try it myself but since I don't experience the problem
it is a little hard to debug! If we can track it down to one of these
options we might be able to fix it.

Cheers

James

done

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Nov 27, 2006, 10:53:43 AM11/27/06
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Seems like it takes a lot of time to contact the google-analytics
server.

-- Daniel

Jose Galvez

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Nov 27, 2006, 3:36:52 PM11/27/06
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Thanks James, I'll give those a try and see what happens
Jose

Ben Bangert

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Dec 1, 2006, 2:13:38 PM12/1/06
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I've changed some settings for the Trac/Apache install regarding
conditional gzipping we had Apache2 doing on the output. For those
that were experiencing slowness, can you check to see if thats still
present?

Thanks,
Ben

Michael G. Noll

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Dec 1, 2006, 3:07:07 PM12/1/06
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Works great here. Wiki pages load fast (like before) and they stop
loading when "they should to" (which was not the case previously).

Michael

ToddG

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Dec 1, 2006, 4:41:47 PM12/1/06
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Yep, that fixed the never-ending loading for me too... (camino on os x)

Alexandre CONRAD

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Dec 4, 2006, 4:33:32 AM12/4/06
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Ben Bangert wrote:

Aaah ! I finally have smooth browing on the wiki section ! Thanks Ben !

Regards,
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Alexandre CONRAD

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