Khmer language in Google translation.
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សួន សីហាពណ្ណរាយ
Dec 2, 2010, 11:29:15 PM12/2/10
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Dear all
I want to ask anyone who knowledge in Google translation. how does it work and if i want to create translation from English to Khmer? how to do it? I write in English coz maybe someone from foreigner can help me some guide or idea to do. I just feeling jealous when I see other language can use this translate service can i dream to use Khmer language also. If anyone who have more time to research about this just spend a little time to do it. even it's the best one but i think at least we can build it and still develop it to make it the best one.
Best regards
Sovichea SOU
Dec 2, 2010, 11:32:08 PM12/2/10
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Great! Good point. We used to talk about it many years, but still no solution.
2010/12/3 សួន សីហាពណ្ណរាយ <puna...@gmail.com>
Rady Rin
Dec 2, 2010, 11:32:33 PM12/2/10
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It's great idea... but I won't just spend a little time ..... It will takes us long time.... but if we have a team it's better.... you can create a team to do this and suggest to google....isn't good idea?
2010/12/3 សួន សីហាពណ្ណរាយ <puna...@gmail.com>
Dear all
sovichet tep
Dec 2, 2010, 11:34:23 PM12/2/10
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ការបកប្រែរបស់ Google Translate គឺមិនមែនគ្រាន់តែដាក់ទិន្នន័យបកប្រែចូលនោះ គឺបកប្រែបានទេ។ គឺវាចាប់ផ្ដើមពីយើងទៅ យើងត្រូវចូលទៅក្នុង ទីនេះ http://translate.google.com/toolkit/list?hl=en#translations/active ដើម្បីធ្វើការបកប្រែ ដោយអាប់ឡូតឯកសារចូលទៅក្នុងវា ហើយធ្វើការបកប្រែ ពេលនោះ ឯកសារដែលយើងបានបកប្រែ Google នឹងយកទៅទុកទៅក្នុង បណ្ដុំទិន្នន័យរបស់គេ។ ក្រោយពីពេលដែលគេមើលឃើញថា ទិន្នន័យនៃភាសាខ្មែរមានគ្រប់ហើយ គេនឹងដាក់ភាសាខ្មែរចូលទៅក្នុង គេហទំព័របកប្រែរបស់គេ។ យើងត្រូវការពេលយូរ និងមនុស្សច្រើនដើម្បីចូលរួម។
2010/12/3 សួន សីហាពណ្ណរាយ <puna...@gmail.com>
Dear all
sovichet tep
Dec 2, 2010, 11:42:42 PM12/2/10
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ពេលដែលយើងអាប់ឡូតឯកសារបកប្រែចូលនោះ ពេលធ្វើការបកប្រែ ពាក្យណាដែលមានរួចក្នុងទិន្នន័យរបស់ Google វានឹងបកប្រែអោយយើងដោយស្វ័យប្រវត្ដិ។
2010/12/3 sovichet tep <sovich...@gmail.com>
Vireak Kim
Dec 3, 2010, 1:01:06 AM12/3/10
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Automated translation can only used to provide general information only. My students fail to write their thesis at an acceptable level because they relied too much on translation software. If you are going to explain a case study or academic research for a niche content, read references carefully, rewrite, reread and rewrite it. Every revision will help improve our capacity gradually.
Nice and thanks to see Vichet's response in Khmer. May be we should start using our communication in Khmer the earlier the better.
Vireax
Nice and thanks to see Vichet's response in Khmer. May be we should start using our communication in Khmer the earlier the better.
Vireax
2010/12/3 sovichet tep <sovich...@gmail.com>
sovichet tep
Dec 3, 2010, 1:04:00 AM12/3/10
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បាទ! ខ្ញុំក៏គិតដូច្នោះដែរ។ កម្មវិធីបកប្រែវាអាចជួយយើងបានត្រឹមតែ ៥០% ប៉ុណ្ណោះ។ ចំណែកឯ ៥០% ទៀតគឺយើងជាអ្នកធ្វើ។
អរគុណបងវីរៈ។ បើសិនជាយើងនិយាយជាភាសាខ្មែរ គឺរឹតតែល្អ ហើយមានភាពជិតស្និទ្ទ និងស្ដាប់គ្នាងាយយល់។ ព្រោះខ្ញុំក៏មិនមែនជាអ្នកពូកែភាសាអង់គ្លេសប៉ុន្មានដែរ។ ដូច្នេះយើងមានយូនីកូដខ្មែរទៅហើយ ដូច្នេះយើងគួរនាំគ្នាប្រើវា។
2010/12/3 Vireak Kim <k...@ximplex.net>
សួន សីហាពណ្ណរាយ
Dec 3, 2010, 1:36:17 AM12/3/10
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ធ្វើម៉េចទៅហ្ន! ទើបអាចរកគ្នាបាន! ខ្ញុំចង់ធ្វើណាស់ ហើយសុខចិត្តចំនាយពេល របស់ខ្ញុំខ្លះដើម្បីជួយស្រាវជ្រាវ បើមានអ្នកនាំផ្លូវ បង្ហាញជាគំនិតសង្ឃឹមថា អាចធ្វើបាន ទោះបាន ៥% ក៏ខ្ញុំសាកសិនដែរ ព្រោះបើរបស់មានហើយ វាប្រាកដជាមានអ្នកបង្ហើយ ៥%ទៀត ហើយ វានឹងឈានទៅរក ការទទួសស្គាល់ តែបញ្ហាគឺ អ្នកបចេ្ចកទេស ព៌តមានវិទ្យាយើង មិនសូវជាពួកែខាងអក្សរសាស្ត្រទេ។ បើសិនជា មានអ្នកប្រឹក្សារជា អ្នកជំនាញខាងអក្សសាស្រ្តនោះ ខ្ញុំគិតថា មានលទ្ធិភាពច្រើន ព្រោះគេពូកែខាងហ្នឹងស្រាប់។
2010/12/3 sovichet tep <sovich...@gmail.com>
sovichet tep
Dec 3, 2010, 1:41:40 AM12/3/10
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បាទបង! សូម្បីតែខ្ញុំជាអ្នកបកប្រែកម្មវិធីកុំព្យូទ័រ សព្វថ្ងៃក៏ខ្ញុំនៅប្រឹងមើលសៀវភៅវេយ្យាករណ៍ខ្មែរ និងពិភាក្សាពីពាក្យខ្មែរជាមួយមិត្តភ័ក្ដ្រឯទៀតដែរ។ ព្រោះបច្ចុប្បន្ន ការបកប្រែគឺវានៅមានកម្រិតទាប ហើយនិងមានភាពចម្រូងចម្រាស់ មិនទាន់ដឹងថា តើគួរយកពាក្យរបស់ក្រសួងណាមួយ មកប្រើជាផ្លូវការទេ។ បើប្រើអីចេស៎ ដូចមិនសម បើប្រើអីចុ៎ះ សម តែខុសន័យឃ្លា និងប្រយោគគេ។ http://kmlangpack4soft.wordpress.com/
Sitthykun LY
Mar 16, 2013, 1:56:24 PM3/16/13
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Hello friends and Brad,
In fact you are thinking our language is the same as others but are more vowels and consonants ... each of language always has native style ... the problems just are not the grammar or word ... make sure those articles or sentences are correct, follow the rule ...
Ex:
Ex:
ពាក្យ(Word): សាលា
ឃ្លា(Sentence): ប្រធាន(Subject) + កិរិយាស័ព្ទ(Verb) + កម្មបទ(Object)
In English, they have to token those word by space then analyzes them, but in our language we use Hidden Space to separate the words. Every word have to use Hidden Space(Space in NiDA Keyboard), Khan(Stop), New Line, or .., I think it will enough.
Ex: គាត់ទៅសាលា
Best,
Sitthykun
ឃ្លា(Sentence): ប្រធាន(Subject) + កិរិយាស័ព្ទ(Verb) + កម្មបទ(Object)
In English, they have to token those word by space then analyzes them, but in our language we use Hidden Space to separate the words. Every word have to use Hidden Space(Space in NiDA Keyboard), Khan(Stop), New Line, or .., I think it will enough.
Ex: គាត់ទៅសាលា
Best,
Sitthykun
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Brad Collins <br...@chenla.la> wrote:
Nal is correct. Google uses a brute force approach to
translation. It does it by indexing texts that translate
from one language to another and then attempts to use those
as references in translating whatever the user wants to
translate. In other words it's a big data approach using
lots and lots of data, rather than understanding the
languages it translates.
This approach works, but requires a very large corpus of
text to work from. The more translated texts they have to
index, the better the translation. I am sure they would be
happy to add Khmer translation, but they probabaly still
don't have enough translated texts to be able to offer the
service.
Hopefully this will change in the future. I would love to
have this feature for both Khmer and Lao as much as you do.
b/
>Nal MEN <nalme...@gmail.com> writes:
> Dear Friends
> I am respected your highest Idea to create Khmer translate in google, but I
> would like to say that it very difficult, not because of the technical but
> because of your language. you know the same word but have different
> meaning. and the technical translate of google is cut string by string,
> word by word, and find that word in dictionary. If suggest you use same as
> chines translate in google, while you type that word, it will drop down to
> show you what that word really mean, so you can sure to translate that word
> correctly. but the arrangement is according to our grammar. I am sorry if I
> got any mistake, but hope that it can help.
--Brad Collins <br...@chenla.la>
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