Hollow Earth Films
Joseph
I thought Wingard did a great job at making the Hollow Earth a literal world within our world rather than keeping it a series of interconnected tunnels. It opens the door for some amazing worldbuilding and exploration in future movies. I just find the idea of a primordial world with prehistoric creatures hidden beneath our feet to be fascinating, hence the reason I fell in love with King Kong.
I've heard some people complaining about it not being realistic enough (which is kind of ironic, considering this is a series about building sized monsters), and sure, it may not be realistic, but it's a lot more interesting, especially when you consider how it was built up in the series as being this lost world ruled by monsters. Imagine if they built up the Hollow Earth for two films, only for it to just be a big cavern, that would be pretty disappointing...
Plus the idea of the Hollow Earth having a "pseudo-sun" is something that's been part of the Hollow Earth mythology in a lot of other stories, with the idea even being referenced in Godzilla vs Megalon.
I think maybe the way it was treated in the film affected the reception tbh. The film doesnt take itself serious which is good mostly, but its tonally unfit with the other movies. I mean in KoTM the titans and their mythology actually was treated with gravitas and reverence. But like in GvK the idea of hollow earth was basically, Get the energy!
Honestly, the problem was its underusage. I could honestly give zero cares about the retcons. They actively dragged the buildup, when they should've focused on the journey itself. Also, shortening the buildup could've given the Godzilla defenders more screentime.
I feel movies should tackle one or two major plot point at a time, Godzilla 2014 is the best Monsterverse movie so far because it wasn't stuffed to the gills with plot over plot like King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong
Eh, Kong: Skull Island was definitely a lot more streamlined than Godzilla 2014. I still find G'14 to be my least favorite anyway. Or maybe my totally evident Stockholm Syndrome of Millie Bobby Brown is blinding a couple of issues with King of The Monsters. I think I may need to rewatch the MonsterVerse during my ultimate Kaiju watch-a-thon that may or may not be coming soon.
This quickly turned into a MV hate train... to which I contributed, but i feel the point of not understanding the hate behind hollow earth is valid. Its up to opinion and GojiraFan2013 is preety right to ask why. For many GvK was a very fulfilling film that lived up to the hype and maybe the tone i would have liked is not the same tone they would have liked.
HinikunaGoji
I don't hate the MonsterVerse, I wish it well but it is falling into some pitfalls that plague most long running franchises. It feels like a lot of modern movies are trying to be MCU movies, we see this MCU influence in Jurassic World's sequels and even the MonsterVerse itself
I just don't care for the super hero human that now inhabit every movie regardless if its a super hero or not. I miss when the human protagonists in the Jurassic Park movies were very vulnerable and helpless in the face of a dinosaur or when Godzilla was neither a good guy nor a bad guy, he was like a storm, an indiscriminating beast of destruction that only saves the world from a greater threat when it invades his territory.
HinikunaGoji and Xenotaris, I don't hate the MonsterVerse. I think Godzilla Vs. Kong gave me what I wanted to see. I got to see these oversized animals duke it out three times. The movie was loads of fun. But there are a lot of problems too. And I agree that we're starting to get into modern movie pitfalls, those being:
1. the introduction of new characters can make or break a sequel especially if they are thrown in and were supposed to know who they are
2. Ummm can you elaborate on this one
3. I'm sorry I don't understand what Style over substance really means in this context, so I need more detail I'm kind of a dummy when it come to these things
HinikunaGoji
Human protagonists surviving being inside a volcanic ash cloud, I like Chris Pratt and his character Owen but realistically he should have fried when the ash cloud got him
With Dominion I didn't like the over emphasis on human villians in that movie
Xenotaris, I feel like Godzilla 2014 and Skull Island had better logic and didn't retcon previous scenes unlike KOTM and GVK. Also, style over substance is basically VFX and big set pieces being prioritized over important things like characters and story.
As for your thing about human villains, no franchise does it worse than the five Michael Bay Transformers movies. And what's funny is that in the fourth one the worst written human villain is killed by a character whose characterization got already butchered several times throughout the franchise.
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The biggest monster smackdown in all of movie history is almost here. Godzilla vs. Kong will be hitting screens soon, and aside from the creature combat the Monsterverse sequel looks like it will be expanding on the notion of the Hollow Earth. The filmmakers confirmed as much when IGN visited the set of the film.
The fringe scientific theory has played a part in the previous Monsterverse flicks as an explainer for how Godzilla travels across the planet, but in the new film, we might get an insight into how the Hollow Earth shaped the creation of the Titans and why they ended up surfacing on our world instead of continuing to live beneath it.
There are people who claim our true Earth is hollow too. Some of those proponents even claim that there is a secondary sun within our planet, fueling those who live within the Hollow Earth. While it might seem utterly wild, it has as a theory at times been supported by famed scientists like Edmund Halley -- who potentially came up with the idea -- while also becoming a staple of science fiction storytelling as well as a popular conspiracy theory.
We mentioned Shakespeare earlier and that would be due to A Midsummer's Night's Dream, which contains the line "I'll believe as soon / This whole earth may be bored and that the moon / May through the center creep and so displease / Her brother's noontide with Antipodes." According to Hollow Earth enthusiasts, this is one of the earliest references to the theory, which actually predates Edmund Halley's essay on the subject which brought it to the scientific forefront.
It's not just movies, either. Gears of War builds the Hollow Earth into its lore with the Hollow, a massive series of underground tunnels created by huge subterranean creatures. That brings us to the Monsterverse, which uses a very similar reimagining of the lore in its storytelling.
That was proven to be true during Godzilla: King of the Monsters. While much of the story focused on the many Titans doing battle, we learned a little more about the Hollow Earth and how it works in the Monsterverse. Not only was it confirmed that Godzilla was using subterranean tunnels to swim across the globe, but we also got a glimpse of what seemed to be a now decimated Hollow Earth community. While Godzilla is healing, we see an Atlantis-inspired landscape that hints that at one time humanoid creatures lived in the Hollow Earth alongside the massive Titans who were potentially born and definitely worshipped by the extinct culture. The film also featured Skull Crawlers leaving their subterranean nests on Skull Island when they were called by the Titan Ghidorah, which confirmed the Titans can communicate with each other using the Hollow Earth network, hinting at bigger threats to come for humanity in the future.
Answering the question of where the Titans come from has long been at the heart of the Monsterverse and the Hollow Earth would offer up an easy answer. If the creatures originated from there, then we get to ask why they left. Could it be there's a greater threat living under the crust of our Earth? A mega-Titan that drove even Kong and Godzilla from their homes? We'll have to check out the monster mash movie when it hits screens to find out.
The Earth is a magnet, though not a reliable one. At the center of the planet churns a vat of molten iron, highly charged. It does many things for us, including offering us our lodestone bearings and our comet-shaped magnetosphere, which protects Earth from solar radiation.
When the magnetism of the Earth shifts, false compass readings ensue and the magnetic poles can migrate or even flip. Several centuries ago, scientists wondered if these phenomena occurred because the Earth is hollow, or, in another theory put forward in 1692 by Edmund Halley, if the Earth has nested, spherical shells all spinning in different directions. By the 18th century these ideas of underground worlds had stimulated the popular imagination, yielding the genre of subterranean fiction. Now, the subterranean is surfacing in new ways in cinema.
Then, halfway through the 143-minute film, we make an internal Vernian journey: an RTB mining vehicle travels up a different, open shaft over the course of a three-minute continuous shot that rolls out to flares and white, recapitulating a kind of resurfacing blindness. When vision restores, we see the symbol of a divided circle, white on a black background. Instead of returning to Europe and the western world, we find ourselves in a verdant tropical forest with a man and a metal detector.