Purcells of County Kerry, Ireland
jpur...@mlode.com
submitted DNA and have some family information. Kevin...
jpur...@mlode.com
Connie Rinaldi
I'm the editor of the Purcell Family of America Newsletter. Are you a member of our organization or did you find us through the DNA test organization? The organization is always interested in family history, of course. Thanks.
Connie Rinaldi
Purcell Family of America
James Purcell
Connie Rinaldi
Yours, Connie Rinaldi, Editor
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jpur...@mlode.com
No information on such a David Purcell. I do have a cousin by that name, but no idea of any in the 1700's. I believe all my Purcells were descended from the Limerick, Ireland branch of the Purcells of Loughmoe (Croagh). They had been in Ireland since 1169 and were mostly Catholic in the later years at least. There was a branch of Purcells who settled in Scotland very early (about 1100 or before) and they may well have become Presbyterian. The son's and grandsons of Hugh Porcellet/Porcell/Purcell who landed with William the Conqueror in 1066, scattered to England, Scotland and later (1169) to Ireland under Sir Hugh Purcell (grandson of the former). The Irish Purcell knights were known to have also gone to Scotland under order of the King of England in the 15/1600's, so there may have been some later connections as well...Kevin
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I have no info on your David Purcell. I do have a living cousin of that name and am aware of a David Purcell who defeated a body of English troops in Limerick in the 1500's, so the name existed very early in Ireland. I would mention that the first Purcells of Ireland were originally aligned with the Crown and were therefore protestants in their religious affiliation--IE: 11th or 12th Century. They had been Catholics in mainland Europe prior to this. The Purcell family were nobles in Arles and elsewhere and were both physically and financially involved in the Templar's and other Catholic causes. Sir Hugh Porcel accompanied Wm. the Conqueror, and his heirs were soon in the landed gentry of England and as such became Protestant. Once settled in Ireland they often reverted to the Catholic faith. In fact, throughout their long tenure in Ireland, the Purcells were almost always leaders among the Catholic revolts. There is an old saying in Ireland that goes something like, "the Purcells became more Irish than the Irish." By that it seems that they often sacrificed their own estates and privilege by joining in the Catholic revolts--often as leaders. Lt. General Patrick Purcell led the defence of Limerick against Ireton, etc. He was beheaded for his efforts, and his estate of Croagh was forfeit.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the religion of a particular Purcell might have more to do with his desire to keep his estate than otherwise. If one professed for the Pope, they lost their lands and estates, and often their lives...period. Therefore they often tread a fine line of proclaiming themselves one religion while backing another. A branch of the Purcells broke off quite soon after Sir Hugh arrived in England and lived in Scotland, so perhaps that is where the Presbyterian members came from. Also, numerous of the Purcell nobles were ordered by the King of England to serve as knights in Scotland during various wars--so that could also explain it. Good luck!
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:07:56 -0700 (PDT), Mary
<pinett...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have any info? Thanks in advance
On Monday, November 17, 2014 at 3:23:41 PMUTC-5,purc...@gmail.com wrote:jpur, Would be interested whether your research has crossed with a David Purcell who (according to verbal history) sailed form Dublin with wife Elizabeth around 1760, give or take 5 years. He was born about 1740. Landed in what is now Richmond Va,and was property owner in Rockingham County, NC by 1781. Must have been of Scots-Irish lineage since all our Purcells in NC since his arrival were Presbyterians and Scottish Rite Freemasons. Any help appreciated. Alec Purcell purc...@gmail.com
On Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:52:06 PM UTC-7, jpur...@mlode.com wrote:For those interested, my Dad was born in Kerry, Ireland. I've
submitted DNA and have some family information. Kevin...
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