How to deploy Puppet 4 (compared to Puppet 3 from a gem)

[Ken Bowley]

We've been using Puppet since the 0.24 days, and it's always been fairly simple to add in a new system.

Do a base install (Linux or Mac OS X)

Install Ruby if Linux

gem install puppet

run puppet

sign the cert on the puppetmaster

let puppet take care of everything else.

This was easy, easy to document, and pretty much universal for all of our workstations and servers.

Puppet upgrades were fairly easy by changing a version number in the manifest and letting puppet roll out the upgrade.

This workflow no longer works with Puppet 4.

[Tim Skirvin]

Ken Bowley <kbo...@gmail.com> writes:

> We've been using Puppet since the 0.24 days, and it's always been fairly
> simple to add in a new system.

> Do a base install (Linux or Mac OS X)
> Install Ruby if Linux
> gem install puppet
> run puppet
> sign the cert on the puppetmaster
> let puppet take care of everything else.

[...]

> This workflow no longer works with Puppet 4.

I haven't investigated any of this yet; what doesn't work?

- Tim Skirvin (tski...@fnal.gov)
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HPC Systems Administrator / Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/tskirvin
Fermilab - USCMS-T1 Collaboration Experiment Computing Facilities

[Ken Bowley]

Puppet 4 needs a lot of new directories in order to even attempt to run.  It would be nice if puppet had a way to create the directory structure that it needs in order to run.

For now I'm trying to ignore the seemingly non-existent upgrade path from puppet 3 to puppet 4 that doesn't involve firing up a new puppet 4 server to run alongside the puppet 3 server.

[Kylo Ginsberg]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Ken Bowley <kbo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Puppet 4 needs a lot of new directories in order to even attempt to run.  It would be nice if puppet had a way to create the directory structure that it needs in order to run.

Hi Ken,

I've just filed https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-4436, which I think is the issue you're seeing. If that doesn't describe the problem, let's dig in some more.

 

For now I'm trying to ignore the seemingly non-existent upgrade path from puppet 3 to puppet 4 that doesn't involve firing up a new puppet 4 server to run alongside the puppet 3 server.

Yep, that's the only upgrade path at the moment but upcoming releases aim to make the 3 -> 4 upgrade smoother. Stay tuned!

Thanks,

Kylo

 

On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 3:04:51 PM UTC-7, Tim Skirvin wrote:

Ken Bowley <kbo...@gmail.com> writes:

> We've been using Puppet since the 0.24 days, and it's always been fairly
> simple to add in a new system.

> Do a base install (Linux or Mac OS X)
> Install Ruby if Linux
> gem install puppet
> run puppet
> sign the cert on the puppetmaster
> let puppet take care of everything else.

[...]

> This workflow no longer works with Puppet 4.

        I haven't investigated any of this yet; what doesn't work?

                                    - Tim Skirvin (tski...@fnal.gov)
--
HPC Systems Administrator / Developer    http://www.linkedin.com/in/tskirvin
  Fermilab - USCMS-T1 Collaboration        Experiment Computing Facilities

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[Ken Bowley]

That ticket looks like the issue I'm having!

I look forward to the upcoming releases so we can start working on a plan to upgrade.  If the new puppetserver would talk nicely to older puppet's, that would be great.  It's going to suck when we have to bring up systems that have been offline and have older versions of puppet that need to be upgraded.