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C R Ritson

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Apr 24, 2012, 4:34:38 AM4/24/12
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Does autosign work? I have a scratch workstation that may be rebuilt frequently and will therefore acquire a new client certificate. I was hoping that adding its certificate name to /etc/puppet/autosign.conf on the puppetmaster would allow just this one client to have its new certificates autosigned. This doesn't appear to work and I can find no logged errors telling me what is wrong. Can someone suggest where to look, please?


Chris Ritson (Computing Officer and School Safety Officer)

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Luke Bigum

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Apr 24, 2012, 4:41:55 AM4/24/12
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Autosigning certificates work, what you're probably running into is that
autosigning does not clear off an old Agent's certificate, so you're
getting certificate mismatch errors. Puppet's RESTful API allows you to
manage certificates. It's been a long time since I tested this but I
have this in my auth.conf:

#allow hosts to manage certificates
#path /certificate_status/([^/]+)$
path /certificate_status/
auth any
allow *

And then I do this in a kickstart file to have each server delete it's
certificate before it generates a new one and contacts the Puppet Master
for the first time:

curl -k -X PUT -H "Content-Type: text/pson" --data
'{"desired_state":"revoked"}'
https://puppet:8140/production/certificate_status/$HOSTNAME
curl -k -X DELETE -H "Accept: pson"
https://puppet:8140/production/certificate_status/$HOSTNAME

Check out this page for more information:

http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/rest_api.html

-Luke


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C R Ritson

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Apr 24, 2012, 5:42:07 AM4/24/12
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Many thanks - this is now working better. What was tripping me up was that if the puppet agent has tried to run, and there is a certificate request on the master, then the next run of the agent either doesn't try to get the coresponding certificate signed or else the auto-signing is silently blocked. Is this a bug, a feature, or just a misunderstanding on my part?

What are the security implications of allowing clients to manipulate certificates in this way? For now at least I will restrict this to the subset that are likely to need frequent rebuilds.

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Luke Bigum

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Apr 24, 2012, 5:52:25 AM4/24/12
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Not sure about the first question, are you saying your Agent had a non-autosigned certificate waiting on the Puppet Master, then you configured auto signing on the Master and expected it to work? I think the autosigning is done only when an Agent first connects and it won't sign any pending or backlog of certificates (but don't quote me).

Regarding security, I was originally trying to work with this:

#allow a host to manage it's own certificate
#path /certificate_status/([^/]+)$
path /certificate_status/
auth any
allow $1
Which was supposed to only allow a client to delete it's own certificate and only it's own. The $1 wasn't working for me though so I fell back to * (all hosts).

This allows all Agents full control of all operations under /certificate_status/, which basically means someone malicious could delete all your signed certificates, preventing all Agents from checking in. So definitely some implications ;-)

If you get auth.conf any more secure, let me know.

-Luke

C R Ritson

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:14:19 AM4/24/12
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Having read the scary warnings about autosign, I need to think it through some more. However the helpful comments about allowing a client to revoke and delete its OWN certificate will probably useful on their own. Luke said that his addition to auth.conf was not working. It appears that the interpolation of a substring only works when a pattern-match path specification is used. This works for me (note the ~ ):-

#allow (some) hosts to manage certificates
path ~ /certificate_status/test([^/]+)$
auth any
allow test$1

Then in the kick-start file I use Luke's suggested:-

# Revoke and delete any previous puppet certificate


curl -k -X PUT -H "Content-Type: text/pson" \
--data '{"desired_state":"revoked"}' \

https://puppet:8140/production/certificate_status/${HOSTNAME}.ncl.ac.uk

curl -k -X DELETE -H "Accept: pson" \

https://puppet:8140/production/certificate_status/${HOSTNAME}.ncl.ac.uk

I found I needed to add the domain name here to match the certificate that is generated later.

If auto-sign is to be avoided, one possibility is a hand-crafted script to look every so-often for new certificate requests and sign them if and only if they match some pre-determined pattern. Doing it this way avoids the lack of pattern matching in autosign.conf in which a * can only match a complete component of a fully qualified domain name and not some other arbitrary substring.

Chris Ritson (Computing Officer and School Safety Officer)

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Luke Bigum [mailto:Luke....@lmax.com]
>

>... Regarding security, I was originally trying to work with this:


>
>
>#allow a host to manage it's own certificate

>path /certificate_status/([^/]+)$
...
>allow $1

Bill Weiss

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:45:02 PM4/24/12
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Autosign works, but not as you're expecting: it will sign new
certificates, but not overwrite existing ones. At least, that's my
experience here :)

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jcbollinger

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Apr 25, 2012, 9:57:43 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 11:45 am, Bill Weiss <bwe...@backstopsolutions.com> wrote:
> Autosign works, but not as you're expecting: it will sign new
> certificates, but not overwrite existing ones.  At least, that's my
> experience here :)


And that's as it should be, else the name of the feature would be
"disable-authentication". Some people do actually seem to want that,
but Puppet does not offer it, and historically PuppetLabs has resisted
the idea. I don't blame them.


John

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May 2, 2012, 12:48:52 PM5/2/12
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Hi,

Regarding this issue of $1 not working have you made sure that the DNS reverse for your server are right? Because puppet master seems to identify the 'allow' from the reverse of the IP resolution...

Regards,
JM
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