newish puppet on RHEL4 and/or SLES9?

[Jason Antman]

I'm in the process of building out a new puppet master and pulling our
existing/legacy infrastructure into Puppet control for the basic
system-level stuff (mail, syslog, sudo, ssh, etc.). Unfortunately, the
directive from on high is that all of our hosts need to be managed by
the same system. That list is about 95% RHEL/Cent 5 or 6, but there's a
few RHEL4 and SLES9 machines on the "must have" list. As upgrades are
very unlikely, I'd like to be on the newest version possible - ideally,
2.7.12+ on the master so I can leverage puppetDB.

Is anyone out there running new-ish puppet (2.7, or else 2.6) on such
ancient beasts? If so, can anyone point me at sources for the packages,
and dependencies? Or perhaps have spec files to share?

I'd like to say I can spend the time to build and test puppet and all
the dependencies, but alas, that is very far from the case.

Thanks for any assistance,
Jason

PS - If you happen to be a competent generalist Linux admin in the
Boston, MA or Atlanta, GA area, feel free pass along your resume...

[Mark Christian]

I'm not running newish puppet on rhel/cent 4, but the 0.25.6 EPEL packages seem to work well enough with my puppet master that runs 2.7.18.

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[John Warburton]

On 16 August 2012 00:41, Jason Antman <ja...@jasonantman.com> wrote:

 

by the same system. That list is about 95% RHEL/Cent 5 or 6, but there's a few RHEL4 and SLES9 machines on the "must have" list. As upgrades are very unlikely, I'd like to be on the newest version possible - ideally, 2.7.12+ on the master so I can leverage puppetDB.

Is anyone out there running new-ish puppet (2.7, or else 2.6) on such ancient beasts? If so, can anyone point me at sources for the packages, and dependencies? Or perhaps have spec files to share?

I'd like to say I can spend the time to build and test puppet and all the dependencies, but alas, that is very far from the case.

The big hurdle is getting a modern ruby running on the older release. Then any version of puppet/facter should work

Here's a post from 3 years (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/puppet-users/PeZ3ffCnW6I[1-25]) ago of me giving instructions to get ruby/puppet running on VMWare ESX 3.5 which was derived from RHEL 3. Shoud work for RHEL 4

You may be struggling to find a fully functional puppet tool chain for an older RHEL - some work may be required

Regards

John

[Jemmorey]

Jason, 

I was able to compile puppet via the spec file included in the source up to version 2.7.5 on RHEL4 (32 and 64-bit).  I can't remember the issues I had with 2.7.6-9 right now, but it had to do with the ancient ruby (1.8.1).  I did grab the requisite dependencies (augeas-libs, ruby-augeas, facter) from the EPEL.  I haven't had any major issues with that version using the default system ruby.  Makes me feel better that someone else has to support EOL relics as well.  Hope this helps.

Jordan

[Nick Fagerlund]

The advice above is generally pretty good -- for best results build your own Ruby packages, etc. etc.

One thing I can add: Given that even RHEL 5 has a pretty ancient Ruby, you might want to run puppet agent via cron jobs (with --splay) instead of as a daemon. The daemon is generally okay on Ruby 1.8.7 with a modern patch number, but 1.8.5 leaks memory like a sieve with long-running processes.

('Puppet resource' code for creating the cron jobs is the second example in this section: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/installation.html#with-cron)

[Jason Antman]

I know I haven't responded in a while, but thank you to everyone who
gave advice/experience/encouragement. Progress has been slow, mainly due
to other projects, but at this point I'm trying to hold off on building
my new master (even though it's really needed) until I have a built and
tested maximum version of puppet on the old OSes.

I've decided to tackle RHEL4 first, as I think it will be easier, and
I've got more of those boxes to deal with. This morning I got a
successful build of ruby 1.8.7-p299, using Karanbir Singh's RHEL5 srpm
from
http://centos.karan.org/el5/ruby187/SRPMS/ruby-1.8.7.299-4.el5.kb.src.rpm.
Unfortunately I couldn't get ruby-tk to build for 64-bit, but I just
gave up on that and wrapped it in an 'ifnarch x86_64'.

Assuming all goes well, I should have the rest of the dependencies, as
well as (hopefully 2.7.somethingNew) packaged for RHEL4 by the end of
the week. I'll likely post my specfiles and srpms somewhere public.

As to SLES9, I found a thread here from 2 years ago ("Installing puppet
0.25.5 on SLES 9 64 bit",
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/puppet-users/0GaSd3Z2BSQ)
where Thorsten Biel reported packaging ruby 1.8.7 on SLES9 x86_64. It
looks like the specfile/SRPMs never made it anywhere public, but I've
dropped him an email in the hopes that he still has them. If not, I
guess I'll tackle that when RHEL is done.

Thanks Again,
Jason Antman

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[James Turnbull]

Sam Kottler wrote:
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[Sam Kottler]

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