Pubsubbery at the BBC

[Alexis Richardson]

Some of you may have heard about this:
http://www.lshift.net/blog/2009/05/08/untangling-the-bbcs-data-feeds

The reason this is interesting wrt to this group is that this is a
practical and mainstream application of pubsub to content syndication.
Comments welcome... Ade?

alexis

[Paul Harwood]

Very interesting,

Still not sure how this 'untangles' the rss'ed content though.

"We could go down the route of gathering together a centralised ‘Feed
Usage’ committee with members across the BBC, to ‘federate’ feeds so
that they are all produced in the same way but, in practice, this
never truly works and is likely to stifle creativity"

I agree, committee is a bad idea...

"by overlaying a bunch of management and monitoring tools that would
otherwise be ad-hoc or not exist."

hmm....

Doesn't sound like untangling to me, more like central censorship/
control. If they really wanted to unstifle creativity surely they
would employ an expert in each department.

Paul

[James Governor]

Bbc to present at our second pubsub event> that would be groovy

[Alexis Richardson]

@james - good idea.

@paul - we all want this to be applicable in the federated / open
scenario which is one reason the codebase is open source. I am sure
the beeb folks would confirm this philosophy if asked

[Adewale Oshineye]

Alexis,
It would also be great if you could talk to anyone at Barclays Global
Investors who was interested in presenting about how they've tackled a
similar problem.

2009/5/8 Alexis Richardson <alexis.r...@gmail.com>:

[Tuomas Koski]

Hi all,

2009/5/8 Alexis Richardson <alexis.r...@gmail.com>:

I hope I'm not taking this thread to a wrong track, but to fully
understand all the needs of such a system ("Feeds Hub") that was
described, will this "Feeds Hub" be used by BBC internally or as
something customers/users can subscribe directly to?

<br />,
Tuomas Koski
http://www.lobstermonster.org

[mike]

Hi,

On May 8, 3:54 pm, Paul Harwood <p...@syndicated.co.uk> wrote:

> Doesn't sound like untangling to me, more like central censorship/
> control. If they really wanted to unstifle creativity surely they
> would employ an expert in each department.

That's certainly not the intention. Control and moderation will be
important, but that has to be dealt with somehow anyway - it's more
about automation and reliability. Most of the focus will be on
transformations required to deal with multiple output channels - think
of something as simple as football scores - needing distribution to
web, teletext, DAB radios, and so on.

On May 8, 5:02 pm, Tuomas Koski <koski.tuo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> will this "Feeds Hub" be used by BBC internally or as
> something customers/users can subscribe directly to?

Initially internally, but the big picture includes opening it up to
end user subscribers too.

Mike