Extra lane on opposite side for rush hours in Hinjewadi Phase 1

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Vijay Patil

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Aug 10, 2012, 12:01:43 PM8/10/12
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http://blog.indiaappreciates.com/?p=33

Hinjewadi traffic police led by API Nale has created an additional lane for rush hours. This arrangement is done from Wakad bridge to Shivaji circle in phase 1. It is only for 3 hrs in morning. It has helped saving of 8 to 10 minutes per day and its a big relief for this bottleneck point in Hinewadi.

Hinjewadi is IT hub in Pune with companies like Infosys, TCS, Cognizent, Wipro, Tech Mahindra etc. Approx 1.5 L people come to Hinjewadi for job. So 10 minues per person of productive time is Big service to Nation

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Traffic police try to overcome to limitations of poor road engineering and infrastructure. This is how we treat most non-polluting, efficient (land space wise), decent working conditions and job growth engine (i.e Indian IT and software Industry). Perhaps they deserve better now that they pay full taxes (many of tax soaps are gone now for example: STPI etc.), not to forget that employees have been paying taxes from the beginning (TDS).

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Anil Risbud

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Aug 11, 2012, 1:24:03 AM8/11/12
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Vijay,

This is only a "symptomatic relief". The disease is an utter lack of planning and foresight, in particular - not envisioning two simple facts about transport requirements of the fast-growing IT hub that harbours 70,000 professionals with none of them living there at least for now (simple in hindsight, but that's what planners are supposed to be doing):-

- that the Hinjewadi flyover should have been built along the highway, not over it
(I recall this was pointed before it was built, by a committee of IT companies but was turned down maybe for budget or jurisdiction reasons)

- regular, reliable mass transport to enable professionals to commute efficiently from various points in city should have been planned much in advance.

The octroi checkpost situated right at the juction does not help, either !! I am told that the private company bus operators have stalled introduction of bus services on a larger scale (this is only hearsay, not sure if it is true). To their credit, the current traffic situation is despite having so many company buses, not because of them.

This is where the lack of holistic approach I was talking about becomes glaringly obvious. Each agency is working in its own silo, no one person or agency has the vision, responsibility or authority for providing solutions to existing, let alone future problems. What follows is a series of face-saving quick fixes - be it road widening/concreting, or no-right-turn or lane-switching experiments. The situation is not going to be helped, by continued growth and by the multiple townships coming up in and around Hinjewadi. While a few professionals who choose to live there might "walk to work", they or their families are going to "drive to the city" in the evenings and on weekends...


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Anil Risbud



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Harshad Abhyankar

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Aug 13, 2012, 12:00:44 PM8/13/12
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Just curious:  Have they created an "additional lane" or have they made one of the existing lanes "dynamic"?  i.e., to Hinjewadi in morning and to Wakad in evening?
 
> Hinjewadi is IT hub in Pune with companies like Infosys, TCS, Cognizent, Wipro, Tech Mahindra etc. Approx 1.5 L people come to Hinjewadi for job. So 10 minues per person of productive time is Big service to Nation
 
This argument is a bit dangerous, handle carefully!
 
Precisely this kind of argument was used recently to let personal vehicles travel in the BRT lanes in Delhi.  "While low profile people zoom past in buses, high profile people get stuck in traffic.  That is a big loss to the nation!"
 
Vijay, I am not saying that you also think that way, but you never know who will pick up this line and start "thinking" here in Pune too.
 
regards,
- Harshad.
 
 
 
 

Sujit Patwardhan

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Aug 13, 2012, 2:01:25 PM8/13/12
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Harshad,
You are spot on.
1.5 lakh people working in high tech etc............this line of thinking is not going to get us anywhere.
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ashok datar

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Aug 14, 2012, 1:04:10 AM8/14/12
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sujit, harshad and others
First of all, it is important ( and very easy) to take a traffic count on this narrow access to Hinjewadi . I wouldnt take the figure of 1.5 lakh as granted . we should know hourly breakdown of vehicles and passengers using this lane 
perhaps , we are quite right too. But just go by one lump figure is rather unscientific.. count should provide the no of vehicles such as buses, cars, co buses, two wheelers in each direction at vrious hours of the day for three working days and then the solution will present itself for short term as well as long term 
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Anil Risbud

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Aug 14, 2012, 5:41:50 AM8/14/12
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Dear Mr. Datar,

The correct method summarised very well, looks so simple when an expert speaks... The problem is, has anyone from traffic dept or road planning dept. ever thought of actually doing this analysis or repeating it periodically as growth happens and demand pattern changes, or better still, coordinate with STP authorities to project future requirements? 

Or is the current approach one of "hit and miss / trial and error", instead of "measure, project/plan and then provide solutions"?

best regards,

Anil Risbud

ashok datar

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Aug 14, 2012, 6:05:30 AM8/14/12
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Dear Shri Risbud,
this traffic count can be done by using a simple but absolutely precise method ( which we have been following in Mumbai) is to hold a video camera ( or put it on a stand ) at a suitable place which can capture the traffic for one hr at a time and then play this on computer and count the various type of vehicles such as bikes, buses, cars, taxies , autos etc 
at diff hours 
this can be done by citizen groups -
we can teach and tell so called govt authorities in a period of 4 to 5 days
ashok datar

Rajendra Sidhaye

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Aug 14, 2012, 9:23:28 AM8/14/12
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Have they created an "additional lane" or have they made one of the existing lanes "dynamic"?  i.e., to Hinjewadi in morning and to Wakad in evening? > 
 They have used an existing lane. They add a lane to the traffic going from Pune to Hinjewadi. 

But yes, this is a patchwork. What Anil has pointed to is the real issue. It's all trial & error instead of measure, project, plan... 

It's Hit & Miss...but the meaning of that here is: They always miss and pune/people always get hit :(

Rajendra
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