PTGui 9.1.4 released

[PTGui Support]

Hi all,

A new version of PTGui is available for download!
For a list of changes see:
http://www.ptgui.com/versionhistory.html

The update is free of charge for all current users of version 9.1.3. To
upgrade simple select Help - Check for Updates.

Joost

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Many thanks Joost.

[Erik Krause]

Am 25.10.2012 11:08, schrieb PTGui Support:
> A new version of PTGui is available for download!
> For a list of changes see:
> http://www.ptgui.com/versionhistory.html

Hoooray! And lots of m requests realized! Many thanks!

--
Erik Krause
http://www.erik-krause.de

[Erik Krause]

Am 25.10.2012 19:02, schrieb Erik Krause:

> And lots of my requests realized!

I did a short test. I had a crash when optimizing after switching to
"Include in single pass", but couldn't reproduce it. I think the "Her /
vert control points" droplist should be disabled when "Panorama Tools
Optimizer" is selected, but this is a minor issue.

However, when I unlevel my panorama (containing 2 vertical CP pairs)
manually and try to level it again using "Include in singe pass" nothing
happens (the optimizer is very quick, not even a progress bar pops up,
the result is "very good"). Panotools optimizer levels the panorama
perfectly (and takes much, much longer).

You find the project file with the unleveled panorama at
http://ge.tt/8t214GQ/v/0?c

[DaveN]

Not much real change in a year. Any big changes coming up or has
PTGui pretty much plateaued?

[Ken Warner]

The Optimizer change is pretty significant. What more do you want?

[PTGui Support]

Hi Erik,

Thanks for testing!

> I did a short test. I had a crash when optimizing after switching to
> "Include in single pass", but couldn't reproduce it.

If you manage to reproduce it please let me know.

> I think the "Her /
> vert control points" droplist should be disabled when "Panorama Tools
> Optimizer" is selected, but this is a minor issue.

You're right.

> However, when I unlevel my panorama (containing 2 vertical CP pairs)
> manually and try to level it again using "Include in singe pass" nothing
> happens (the optimizer is very quick, not even a progress bar pops up,
> the result is "very good"). Panotools optimizer levels the panorama
> perfectly (and takes much, much longer).

I'll look into it. Most likely the problem is that you are giving a bad
starting point.

But why not just use 'level in second pass'? This is intended for
exactly this situation. Especially if you have more than 2 H/V control
points, they will not mess up the alignment of the images, they are only
used for leveling. The 'include in single pass' method is intended
particularly for things like straightening a single fisheye image - in
other words for when the abc parameters need to be influenced by the H/V
control points. For leveling a stitched panorama this is not a good
thing IMO.

Joost

[PTGui Support]

Hi Dave,

Of course not, the development of PTGui will continue!

Joost

[Didier]

Hi Joost,

I'm very glad and thank you for this long awaited new release.

However, as Dave pointed out, the improvements are mostly at technical "low level", which are essential, but invisible for the common user.

It would be great if you also could spend some development time to the UI, and especially in the Pano Editor window and/or the "Panorama settings" tab. If I may, let me reproduce hereafter part of an earlier post :

1- In the Pano editor window, there should be a way to enter the spacing (in degrees) of the guide-grid, NUMERICALLY. Alternatively, you could add a Tooltip (or a number in the status bar) showing the actual guide spacing (say : by steps of integer degrees) while dragging the small arrow at the bottom of display.

2- Same wish as regards the yellow crop lines (top, bottom, left, right). This would be useful in order to know the actual H and V FoV's of the final pano, which are needed before processing in other sw like Pano2VR. By the way, those values could appear and be manually adjusted in the "Panorama Settings" Tab.

Many thanks,

Didier

[Kelly]

Hi Joost,

Thanks for this!!

Kind regards,

Kelly

[ErnestoP]

"Include in single pass" is a very useful improvement! Now it is not necessary to change to the so much slower "Panorama Tools Optimizer". I have done some tests with fotos that I remember that I had problems to straighten. Works quick and fine. Until now I had no crash - but I only tested single architecture fotos and no big panoramas.
Thank you, Joost!
Ernst

[bsea]

In this new version (9.14 OS X 10.7.5) 

Command-A no longer selects all the control points in the lower portion of the control points editor (listing).

Previously when one control point was selected in the lower part of the window (the listing), Command-A would select all the rest.

[Erik Krause]

Am 26.10.2012 09:26, schrieb PTGui Support:
>> >However, when I unlevel my panorama (containing 2 vertical CP pairs)
>> >manually and try to level it again using "Include in singe pass" nothing
>> >happens (the optimizer is very quick, not even a progress bar pops up,
>> >the result is "very good"). Panotools optimizer levels the panorama
>> >perfectly (and takes much, much longer).
> I'll look into it. Most likely the problem is that you are giving a bad
> starting point.
>
> But why not just use 'level in second pass'? This is intended for
> exactly this situation. Especially if you have more than 2 H/V control
> points, they will not mess up the alignment of the images, they are only
> used for leveling. The 'include in single pass' method is intended
> particularly for things like straightening a single fisheye image - in
> other words for when the abc parameters need to be influenced by the H/V
> control points. For leveling a stitched panorama this is not a good
> thing IMO.

Well, I only wanted to know whether it works the same like Panotools
Optimizer, because that was what I assumed it should do. And I had this
project in the works, so I tested it. As soon as I find time I'll test
it with the examples from
http://wiki.panotools.org/Perspective_correction

[Erik Krause]

Am 26.10.2012 11:25, schrieb Didier:
> It would be great if you also could spend some development time to the
> UI, and especially in the Pano Editor window

Don't complain! The 9.1.3 change list was much shorter...

Yes, I would have loved to switch on/off single images directly in
panorama editor. But I have two monitors and got used to the situation.
And after all it's a minor-minor version change, isn't?

[Erik Krause]

Am 25.10.2012 11:08, schrieb PTGui Support:

> For a list of changes see:
> http://www.ptgui.com/versionhistory.html

Quote:
"Running Align Images for a 360 degree panorama now attempts to preserve
the center of the panorama if the images were already roughly aligned.
Previously it would choose a random center point."

If I press "Align Images" without aligning the images first, PTGui still
changes Yaw of the anchor image. Why that?

Many of us who publish on 360cities shoot the first image pointing north
in order to have the correct direction. (No GPS needed for that, a small
compass on the tripod head is enough).

[PTGui Support]

On 26-10-2012 16:40, Erik Krause wrote:
> Yes, I would have loved to switch on/off single images directly in
> panorama editor.

You can already: right-click in the image and select 'Exclude from
panorama'.

Joost

[PTGui Support]

On 26-10-2012 16:57, Erik Krause wrote:
> Quote:
> "Running Align Images for a 360 degree panorama now attempts to preserve
> the center of the panorama if the images were already roughly aligned.
> Previously it would choose a random center point."
>
> If I press "Align Images" without aligning the images first, PTGui still
> changes Yaw of the anchor image. Why that?
>
> Many of us who publish on 360cities shoot the first image pointing north
> in order to have the correct direction. (No GPS needed for that, a small
> compass on the tripod head is enough).

Align Images ignores the anchor image, because it is assumed that the
average user hasn't set one. Keep in mind that it is intended to be a
fool-proof method for setting up a panorama.

If the images are already pre-aligned, PTGui will attempt to retain the
center of the panorama.

If the images are not aligned (all yaw == 0), the panorama will
attempted to be set up with the first image leftmost and the last image
rightmost. This is what most (novice) users will expect.

If you need anything else this is of course easy to accomplish using a
template.

Joost

[UtahBob]

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:10:15 AM UTC-4, PTGui Support wrote:

A new version of PTGui is available for download! 
For a list of changes see: 
http://www.ptgui.com/versionhistory.html 

Joost,

Faster warping is on the change list and I decided to go back and rerun the gigapixel speedtest.  My 9.1.3 results were very close to previous results (just to benchmark my system at this point in time).  When I ran 9.1.4 with the test I found that the warp was considerably better at 1:32 verses the previous 2:55 and the blend was identical in time, however, trying to create the psb took much longer.  Under 9.1.3 the saving took 14 seconds but under 9.1.4 the saving is taking 145 seconds.  The speed test won't create a psd because of the size but I ran one of my panos and found the same results for the psd as for the psb.  A one second save under 9.1.3 is taking 9 to 10 seconds under 9.1.4.

Opening the gigapixel saved psb in PS and then saving it to the same location takes PS 21 seconds.  I have an ssd for PTGui and PS swap/temp files.

Is there some new option setting that needs adjustment or hardware incompatibility.  I'm running win7 64 with 64gb of memory with an 8 core setting and use setting of 85% of memory.  Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks,  Bob

[PTGui Support]

Hi Bob,

I will look into this later. But for now, in the Create Panorama tab,
could you try clicking on Settings and then

Compression: None
Layers: Flattened

This might just give quite a speed improvement.

Joost

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[Erik Krause]

Am 26.10.2012 17:09, schrieb PTGui Support:
>> >Yes, I would have loved to switch on/off single images directly in
>> >panorama editor.
> You can already: right-click in the image and select 'Exclude from
> panorama'.

Yes, but that's two clicks and some fine pointing. Way too tedious for a
quick toggle to check some details. Almost the same like going to the
other window, clicking Create Panorama tab and unchecking (which indeed
is faster on two monitors).

A right click on the corresponding tab would be way better. This could
be optional. An option could help to populate the almost empty Panorama
Editor options ;-)

[UtahBob]

On Friday, October 26, 2012 12:08:24 PM UTC-4, PTGui Support wrote:

I will look into this later. But for now, in the Create Panorama tab,
could you try clicking on Settings and then

Compression: None
Layers: Flattened

This might just give quite a speed improvement.
Joost

I tried 9.1.4 with no compression and flattened for the psb and the time did improve from 2:25 to 1:52 for the saving.  The resource monitor is showing disk activity during that time ranging from 26 to 100 mb/sec but I don't know how to read it properly.  I also tried the same settings with 9.1.3 and the time for the save looks like it shaves down to around 10 seconds and the disk activity pops close to 200 during that period but it is so quick it is difficult to see what's happening.  I will say that there is some disk activity for perhaps 10 seconds after the ptgui dialog box closes for both 9.1.4 and 9.1.3 but the mb/sec for 9.1.3 during that time looks like it is significantly higher.  Bob

 

 

[Erik Krause]

Am 26.10.2012 17:52, schrieb PTGui Support:
> If you need anything else this is of course easy to accomplish using a
> template.

How would that look like for a varying number of images, brackets per
image etc.? My shooting setups are almost never identical...

[luca vascon]

I experienced continuous hangs and crashes in the new version.

Win XP 32 and 64 bits.

:-P

[Joergen Geerds]

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:10:15 AM UTC-4, PTGui Support wrote:

My copy of 9.1.3 (on 10.8.2) still insists that it is completely up-to-date, and no update is available (help, check for updates). why? 

[PTGui Support]

Hi Joergen,

There are some problems with the automatic updates at the moment, which
can only be fixed in a new update. But manually checking for updates
should work now. Could you do Help - Check for Updates again?

Joost

[Joergen Geerds]

On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:40:04 PM UTC-4, PTGui Support wrote:

There are some problems with the automatic updates at the moment, which
can only be fixed in a new update. But manually checking for updates
should work now. Could you do Help - Check for Updates again?

great, now it pinged me to upgrade after i selected 'check for updates'

all good now 

[Vito Amorelli]

Vitoam...@Hotmail.com

On Oct 25, 2012 5:10 AM, "PTGui Support" <sup...@ptgui.com> wrote:

Hi all,

A new version of PTGui is available for download!
For a list of changes see:
http://www.ptgui.com/versionhistory.html

The update is free of charge for all current users of version 9.1.3. To upgrade simple select Help - Check for Updates.

Joost

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