Correcting North

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Melanie Glover

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Jun 26, 2024, 11:00:48 AMJun 26
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When uploading our images into PTGui, and once the images are aligned, it always seems to throw out North.

We have tried to use (ctrl g) prior to aligning the images to avoid this from happening but unfortunately more times than not it occurs.

 Please could you advise what we need to do to resolve this?

 

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Jun 26, 2024, 11:04:59 AMJun 26
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Hi Melanie,

Could you post two project files, one before running Align Images and
one after Align Images?

This would help me understand the problem. I don't need the actual images.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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Melanie Glover

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Jun 27, 2024, 7:48:45 AMJun 27
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Good Afternoon. I had tried to send you the projects along with the first image (North) but due to the size was unable to send. 

After doing some further investigation, it appears when uploading DNG files opposed to JPG, this is what causes North to be thrown out. Any chance you could please advise how to resolve this issue and if it is a issue you have experienced or heard of? 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:06 PM Melanie Glover <melanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Good Afternoon, No problem at all. Please find attached - I am also included the first image PANO_0001 which would be North. 

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Jun 27, 2024, 10:21:34 AMJun 27
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Hi Melanie,

Could you post just the (.pts) project files? You get those by doing
File - Save Project, they are small enough to post here.

I'm not aware of any such issue with DNG files. I would need to have the
project files in order to understand what you are doing.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 27-06-2024 13:48, Melanie Glover wrote:
> Good Afternoon. I had tried to send you the projects along with the
> first image (North) but due to the size was unable to send.
>
> After doing some further investigation, it appears when uploading DNG
> files opposed to JPG, this is what causes North to be thrown out. Any
> chance you could please advise how to resolve this issue and if it is a
> issue you have experienced or heard of?
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:06 PM Melanie Glover
> <melanie...@gmail.com <mailto:melanie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon, No problem at all. Please find attached - I am also
> included the first image PANO_0001 which would be North.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 4:04 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
> <pt...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Melanie,
>
> Could you post two project files, one before running Align
> Images and
> one after Align Images?
>
> This would help me understand the problem. I don't need the
> actual images.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
>
> On 26-06-2024 16:37, Melanie Glover wrote:
> > When uploading our images into PTGui, and once the images are
> aligned,
> > it always seems to throw out North.
> >
> > We have tried to use (ctrl g) prior to aligning the images to
> avoid this
> > from happening but unfortunately more times than not it occurs.
> >
> > Please could you advise what we need to do to resolve this?
> >
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Apologies for the delay, please find attached.

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Jul 2, 2024, 10:26:33 AMJul 2
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Hi Melanie,

Please see attached screenshots: both panoramas look more or less
identical, they have the same orientation.

So what's the problem exactly?

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 02-07-2024 12:54, Melanie Glover wrote:
> Apologies for the delay, please find attached.
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 3:21 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
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> Hi Melanie,
>
> Could you post just the (.pts) project files? You get those by doing
> File - Save Project, they are small enough to post here.
>
> I'm not aware of any such issue with DNG files. I would need to have
> the
> project files in order to understand what you are doing.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
>
> On 27-06-2024 13:48, Melanie Glover wrote:
> > Good Afternoon. I had tried to send you the projects along with the
> > first image (North) but due to the size was unable to send.
> >
> > After doing some further investigation, it appears when uploading
> DNG
> > files opposed to JPG, this is what causes North to be thrown out.
> Any
> > chance you could please advise how to resolve this issue and if
> it is a
> > issue you have experienced or heard of?
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:06 PM Melanie Glover
> > <melanie...@gmail.com <mailto:melanie...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:melanie...@gmail.com <mailto:melanie...@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Good Afternoon, No problem at all. Please find attached - I
> am also
> >     included the first image PANO_0001 which would be North.
> >
> >     On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 4:04 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
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> >         Hi Melanie,
> >
> >         Could you post two project files, one before running Align
> >         Images and
> >         one after Align Images?
> >
> >         This would help me understand the problem. I don't need the
> >         actual images.
> >
> >         Kind regards,
> >
> >         Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> > www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com> <http://www.ptgui.com
> <http://www.ptgui.com>>
> >
> >         On 26-06-2024 16:37, Melanie Glover wrote:
> >          > When uploading our images into PTGui, and once the
> images are
> >         aligned,
> >          > it always seems to throw out North.
> >          >
> >          > We have tried to use (ctrl g) prior to aligning the
> images to
> >         avoid this
> >          > from happening but unfortunately more times than not
> it occurs.
> >          >
> >          > Please could you advise what we need to do to resolve
> this?
> >          >
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Melanie Glover

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Jul 3, 2024, 6:56:24 AMJul 3
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Good Morning, I attach the pre stitched image which was taken with the drone with the correct North. Please see attached the screenshot from PTGUi demonstrating a different Northern point. It is assential we use PTGUi to ensure a higher quality PANO, however it is becoming time consuming having to cross reference and correct North. Please could you advise how to resolved this :) 

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Hi Melanie,

So for my understanding, the problem is that PTGui picks a different
image center than the in-drone stitched panorama?

The difference is not very large in your example; are you sure the
in-drone stitch is centered exactly north?

PTGui uses the GimbalYawDegree as reported by the drone to center the
panorama. If this data is wrong, I'm not sure if there's anything that
can be done. I will investigate. I assume it's a DJI drone?

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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On 03-07-2024 12:56, Melanie Glover wrote:
> Good Morning, I attach the pre stitched image which was taken with the
> drone with the correct North. Please see attached the screenshot from
> PTGUi demonstrating a different Northern point. It is assential we use
> PTGUi to ensure a higher quality PANO, however it is becoming time
> consuming having to cross reference and correct North. Please could you
> advise how to resolved this :)
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:26 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
> <pt...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Melanie,
>
> Please see attached screenshots: both panoramas look more or less
> identical, they have the same orientation.
>
> So what's the problem exactly?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
>
> On 02-07-2024 12:54, Melanie Glover wrote:
> > Apologies for the delay, please find attached.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 3:21 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
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> >
> >     Hi Melanie,
> >
> >     Could you post just the (.pts) project files? You get those
> by doing
> >     File - Save Project, they are small enough to post here.
> >
> >     I'm not aware of any such issue with DNG files. I would need
> to have
> >     the
> >     project files in order to understand what you are doing.
> >
> >     Kind regards,
> >
> >     Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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Hi Joost, thank you for your prompt response. The below is correct and was taken with a DJI drone. The surveyor can confirm it was taken at North as it was confirmed with a compass. Please would you also be so kind to look into if DNG and using JPEG files could also be a factor? Thank you for your assistance 

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Thanks for getting back to me , But my question is how we can create pts file using command line 


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Hi Joost, any chance you have managed to do some investigation in relation to my query? 

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Hi Melanie,

No, not yet, I'm sorry.

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> Hi Joost, thank you for your prompt response. The below is correct
> and was taken with a DJI drone. The surveyor can confirm it was
> taken at North as it was confirmed with a compass. Please would you
> also be so kind to look into if DNG and using JPEG files could also
> be a factor? Thank you for your assistance
>
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> Hi Melanie,
>
> So for my understanding, the problem is that PTGui picks a
> different
> image center than the in-drone stitched panorama?
>
> The difference is not very large in your example; are you sure the
> in-drone stitch is centered exactly north?
>
> PTGui uses the GimbalYawDegree as reported by the drone to
> center the
> panorama. If this data is wrong, I'm not sure if there's
> anything that
> can be done. I will investigate. I assume it's a DJI drone?
>
> Kind regards,
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> On 03-07-2024 12:56, Melanie Glover wrote:
> > Good Morning, I attach the pre stitched image which was taken
> with the
> > drone with the correct North. Please see attached the
> screenshot from
> > PTGUi demonstrating a different Northern point. It is
> assential we use
> > PTGUi to ensure a higher quality PANO, however it is becoming
> time
> > consuming having to cross reference and correct North. Please
> could you
> > advise how to resolved this :)
> >
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> >     Hi Melanie,
> >
> >     Please see attached screenshots: both panoramas look more
> or less
> >     identical, they have the same orientation.
> >
> >     So what's the problem exactly?
> >
> >     Kind regards,
> >
> >     Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> >     On 02-07-2024 12:54, Melanie Glover wrote:
> >      > Apologies for the delay, please find attached.
> >      >
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> >      >     Hi Melanie,
> >      >
> >      >     Could you post just the (.pts) project files? You
> get those
> >     by doing
> >      >     File - Save Project, they are small enough to post
> here.
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Hi Melanie,

Could you make your project file and source images available for download?

DJI embeds a metadata value 'GimbalYawDegree' in its source images. This
is what PTGui uses to center the panorama. I would like to verify with
your source images if it does this correctly.

You may share the files with me (support at ptgui.com) using dropbox,
google drive, or similar.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 08-07-2024 16:17, Melanie Glover wrote:
> Hi Joost, any chance you have managed to do some investigation in
> relation to my query?
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 12:29 PM Melanie Glover <melanie...@gmail.com
> <mailto:melanie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Joost, thank you for your prompt response. The below is correct
> and was taken with a DJI drone. The surveyor can confirm it was
> taken at North as it was confirmed with a compass. Please would you
> also be so kind to look into if DNG and using JPEG files could also
> be a factor? Thank you for your assistance
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 12:12 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
> <pt...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
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> Hi Melanie,
>
> So for my understanding, the problem is that PTGui picks a
> different
> image center than the in-drone stitched panorama?
>
> The difference is not very large in your example; are you sure the
> in-drone stitch is centered exactly north?
>
> PTGui uses the GimbalYawDegree as reported by the drone to
> center the
> panorama. If this data is wrong, I'm not sure if there's
> anything that
> can be done. I will investigate. I assume it's a DJI drone?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
>
> On 03-07-2024 12:56, Melanie Glover wrote:
> > Good Morning, I attach the pre stitched image which was taken
> with the
> > drone with the correct North. Please see attached the
> screenshot from
> > PTGUi demonstrating a different Northern point. It is
> assential we use
> > PTGUi to ensure a higher quality PANO, however it is becoming
> time
> > consuming having to cross reference and correct North. Please
> could you
> > advise how to resolved this :)
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:26 PM 'PTGui Support' via PTGui Support
> > <pt...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>
> <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Melanie,
> >
> >     Please see attached screenshots: both panoramas look more
> or less
> >     identical, they have the same orientation.
> >
> >     So what's the problem exactly?
> >
> >     Kind regards,
> >
> >     Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> >     On 02-07-2024 12:54, Melanie Glover wrote:
> >      > Apologies for the delay, please find attached.
> >      >
> >      > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 3:21 PM 'PTGui Support' via
> PTGui Support
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> <mailto:pt...@googlegroups.com>>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Hi Melanie,
> >      >
> >      >     Could you post just the (.pts) project files? You
> get those
> >     by doing
> >      >     File - Save Project, they are small enough to post
> here.
> >      >
> >      >     I'm not aware of any such issue with DNG files. I
> would need
> >     to have
> >      >     the
> >      >     project files in order to understand what you are
> doing.
> >      >
> >      >     Kind regards,
> >      >
> >      >     Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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