Positioning via xml file doesn't work

[mic...@aichberger.de]

Sorry, I just realized that I should have posted in English, here is my request in english:

Hello everyone,

I photographed several rooms (museum) with the following equipment: Canon R5 with RF 1.4 35 mm, 2 x Zenit (for safety), and then:

+60° 6 images
+30° 12 images
0° 12 images
-30° 12 images
-60° 6 images
Nadir

In rooms with enough detail, the stitching worked perfectly. However, in rooms with little detail (empty walls), it did not. Therefore, I created an XML file with the corresponding angles and imported it via Import -> Papywizard.

(Leaving out the Zenit and Nadir for now, we are talking about 48 images.)

This mostly worked well. However, I now have a room with even less detail than the others, and the images of this panorama are displayed completely scrambled in the Panorama Editor, DESPITE the XML file.

I have tried everything possible, even on multiple computers, but PTGui just won’t adhere to the specified grid.

Does anyone have an idea how I could solve this problem? Thank you very much in advance! Here is the content of my xml-file

<papywizard version="c">

<header>

<general>

<title>CanonR5_35mm_Pano</title>

<comment>Generated panorama shooting XML</comment>

</general>

<shooting mode="preset">

<cameraOrientation>portrait</cameraOrientation>

</shooting>

<camera>

<bracketing nbPicts="1"/>

<sensor coef="1.0" ratio="3:2"/>

</camera>

<lens type="rectilinear">

<focal>35.000</focal>

</lens>

</header>

<shoot>

<!-- +60° row: 6 shots -->

<pict id="1" bracket="1">

<position yaw="0" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="2" bracket="1">

<position yaw="60" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="3" bracket="1">

<position yaw="120" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="4" bracket="1">

<position yaw="180" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="5" bracket="1">

<position yaw="240" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="6" bracket="1">

<position yaw="300" pitch="60"/>

</pict>

<!-- +30° row: 12 shots -->

<pict id="7" bracket="1">

<position yaw="0" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="8" bracket="1">

<position yaw="30" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="9" bracket="1">

<position yaw="60" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="10" bracket="1">

<position yaw="90" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="11" bracket="1">

<position yaw="120" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="12" bracket="1">

<position yaw="150" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="13" bracket="1">

<position yaw="180" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="14" bracket="1">

<position yaw="210" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="15" bracket="1">

<position yaw="240" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="16" bracket="1">

<position yaw="270" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="17" bracket="1">

<position yaw="300" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="18" bracket="1">

<position yaw="330" pitch="30"/>

</pict>

<!-- 0° row: 12 shots -->

<pict id="19" bracket="1">

<position yaw="0" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="20" bracket="1">

<position yaw="30" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="21" bracket="1">

<position yaw="60" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="22" bracket="1">

<position yaw="90" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="23" bracket="1">

<position yaw="120" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="24" bracket="1">

<position yaw="150" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="25" bracket="1">

<position yaw="180" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="26" bracket="1">

<position yaw="210" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="27" bracket="1">

<position yaw="240" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="28" bracket="1">

<position yaw="270" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="29" bracket="1">

<position yaw="300" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<pict id="30" bracket="1">

<position yaw="330" pitch="0"/>

</pict>

<!-- -30° row: 12 shots -->

<pict id="31" bracket="1">

<position yaw="0" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="32" bracket="1">

<position yaw="30" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="33" bracket="1">

<position yaw="60" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="34" bracket="1">

<position yaw="90" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="35" bracket="1">

<position yaw="120" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="36" bracket="1">

<position yaw="150" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="37" bracket="1">

<position yaw="180" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="38" bracket="1">

<position yaw="210" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="39" bracket="1">

<position yaw="240" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="40" bracket="1">

<position yaw="270" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="41" bracket="1">

<position yaw="300" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<pict id="42" bracket="1">

<position yaw="330" pitch="-30"/>

</pict>

<!-- -60° row: 6 shots -->

<pict id="43" bracket="1">

<position yaw="0" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="44" bracket="1">

<position yaw="60" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="45" bracket="1">

<position yaw="120" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="46" bracket="1">

<position yaw="180" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="47" bracket="1">

<position yaw="240" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

<pict id="48" bracket="1">

<position yaw="300" pitch="-60"/>

</pict>

</shoot>

</papywizard>

Hello everyone,

I photographed several rooms (museum) with the following equipment: Canon R5 with RF 1.4 35 mm, 2 x Zenit (for safety), and then:

+60° 6 images
+30° 12 images
0° 12 images
-30° 12 images
-60° 6 images
Nadir

In rooms with enough detail, the stitching worked perfectly. However, in rooms with little detail (empty walls), it did not. Therefore, I created an XML file with the corresponding angles and imported it via Import -> Papywizard.

(Leaving out the Zenit and Nadir for now, we are talking about 48 images.)

This mostly worked well. However, I now have a room with even less detail than the others, and the images of this panorama are displayed completely scrambled in the Panorama Editor, DESPITE the XML file.

I have tried everything possible, even on multiple computers, but PTGui just won’t adhere to the specified grid.

Does anyone have an idea how I could solve this problem? Thank you very much in advance!

PS: Here is the XML file:

xml

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<papywizard version="c"> <header> <general> <title>CanonR5_35mm_Pano</title> <comment>Generated panorama shooting XML</comment> </general> <shooting mode="preset"> <cameraOrientation>portrait</cameraOrientation> </shooting> <camera> <bracketing nbPicts="1"/> <sensor coef="1.0" ratio="3:2"/> </camera> <lens type="rectilinear"> <focal>35.000</focal> </lens> </header> <shoot> <!-- +60° row: 6 shots --> <pict id="1" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="2" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="3" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="4" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="5" bracket="1"> <position yaw="240" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="6" bracket="1"> <position yaw="300" pitch="60"/> </pict> <!-- +30° row: 12 shots --> <pict id="7" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="8" bracket="1"> <position yaw="30" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="9" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="10" bracket="1"> <position yaw="90" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="11" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="12" bracket="1"> <position yaw="150" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="13" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="14" bracket="1"> <position yaw="210" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="15" bracket="1"> <position yaw="240" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="16" bracket="1"> <position yaw="270" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="17" bracket="1"> <position yaw="300" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="18" bracket="1"> <position yaw="330" pitch="30"/> </pict> <!-- 0° row: 12 shots --> <pict id="19" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="20" bracket="1"> <position yaw="30" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="21" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="22" bracket="1"> <position yaw="90" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="23" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="24" bracket="1"> <position yaw="150" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="25" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="26" bracket="1"> <position yaw="210" pitch="0"/> </pict>

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Hello everyone,

I photographed several rooms (museum) with the following equipment: Canon R5 with RF 1.4 35 mm, 2 x Zenit (for safety), and then:

+60° 6 images
+30° 12 images
0° 12 images
-30° 12 images
-60° 6 images
Nadir

In rooms with enough detail, the stitching worked perfectly. However, in rooms with little detail (empty walls), it did not. Therefore, I created an XML file with the corresponding angles and imported it via Import -> Papywizard.

(Leaving out the Zenit and Nadir for now, we are talking about 48 images.)

This mostly worked well. However, I now have a room with even less detail than the others, and the images of this panorama are displayed completely scrambled in the Panorama Editor, DESPITE the XML file.

I have tried everything possible, even on multiple computers, but PTGui just won’t adhere to the specified grid.

Does anyone have an idea how I could solve this problem? Thank you very much in advance!

PS: Here is the XML file:

xml

Copy

<papywizard version="c"> <header> <general> <title>CanonR5_35mm_Pano</title> <comment>Generated panorama shooting XML</comment> </general> <shooting mode="preset"> <cameraOrientation>portrait</cameraOrientation> </shooting> <camera> <bracketing nbPicts="1"/> <sensor coef="1.0" ratio="3:2"/> </camera> <lens type="rectilinear"> <focal>35.000</focal> </lens> </header> <shoot> <!-- +60° row: 6 shots --> <pict id="1" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="2" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="3" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="4" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="5" bracket="1"> <position yaw="240" pitch="60"/> </pict> <pict id="6" bracket="1"> <position yaw="300" pitch="60"/> </pict> <!-- +30° row: 12 shots --> <pict id="7" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="8" bracket="1"> <position yaw="30" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="9" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="10" bracket="1"> <position yaw="90" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="11" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="12" bracket="1"> <position yaw="150" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="13" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="14" bracket="1"> <position yaw="210" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="15" bracket="1"> <position yaw="240" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="16" bracket="1"> <position yaw="270" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="17" bracket="1"> <position yaw="300" pitch="30"/> </pict> <pict id="18" bracket="1"> <position yaw="330" pitch="30"/> </pict> <!-- 0° row: 12 shots --> <pict id="19" bracket="1"> <position yaw="0" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="20" bracket="1"> <position yaw="30" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="21" bracket="1"> <position yaw="60" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="22" bracket="1"> <position yaw="90" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="23" bracket="1"> <position yaw="120" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="24" bracket="1"> <position yaw="150" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="25" bracket="1"> <position yaw="180" pitch="0"/> </pict> <pict id="26" bracket="1"> <position yaw="210" pitch="0"/> </pict>

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[mic...@aichberger.de]

In case someone wants to try it, here are the 48 source images and the xml file:

http://www.aichberger.de/_download/39_JPEG.zip

Thanks

[John Houghton]

I loaded the images into PTGui and then ran File->Import->Papywizard and it positioned all of the images correctly.  Many images are devoid of aiutable features for control points.  I applied masks to the bottom row to hide the tripod head.  Then generated control points "for all overlapping images" and ran the optimizer, which produced:

There are some discontinuities which need to be dealt with, but there is nothing major wrong.  Perhaps you didn't mask the tripod head to avoid points there?

John

[Michael von Aichberger | Fotografie]

Hi John,

 

thanks a lot, I indeed didn’t mask the tripod head as „normally“ I found this not to be necessary, but in this case it made a difference.

 

Thanks for pointing that out and thanks for the help!

 

Best regards,
Michael

 

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I loaded the images into PTGui and then ran File->Import->Papywizard and it positioned all of the images correctly.  Many images are devoid of aiutable features for control points.  I applied masks to the bottom row to hide the tripod head.  Then generated control points "for all overlapping images" and ran the optimizer, which produced:

 

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[John Houghton]

Michael,  I should have mentioned the reason for masking the tripod, which is to prevent the generation irregular control points there.

John

[Michael von Aichberger | Fotografie]

Thanks, John. With your help (and some retouching), I achieved quite a good result:

https://www.supergigapixel.com/360/mvaP25111739/

Thanks again!

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