Insta360 One R - 1" module

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Marcus Casey

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Jul 21, 2020, 9:55:21 PM7/21/20
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Hi all,

I have a question about using mixed focal length, and sensor parameter, images in the gui. Making panos with the 360 mod is simple enough, however there are occasions when better resolution in one part of the scene - the main focus, if you like - would really help. I was thinking that a scene could be shot with the 360 module, and then the 1" mod swapped in to take a supplementary shot. Can the settings in PTGui accommodate this?

Thanks,

Marcus

Erik Krause

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Yes, this has always been possible and is even easier now that PTGui
supports multiple lens profiles per project.

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It should work, although I haven't checked if PTGui correctly handles
the metadata of the OneR with the 1" module. PTGui might get confused
and think it is a dual fisheye image.

If anyone could send me a sample image I'd be grateful.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

Marcus Casey

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Jul 22, 2020, 9:10:37 AM7/22/20
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Thank you Joost,

The metadata seems to be the problem. I remember a SIFT software years ago by Kekus called Calico, and it could easily handle different focal lengths, although the sensor was the same.
How do you want the files? 37MB each...

Marcus

Marcus Casey

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Jul 22, 2020, 9:11:58 AM7/22/20
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Thank you Erik,

I had thought that it should be possible, but the parameters for the lenses of the two different mods are problematic.

I look forward to seeing what most can turn up.

Marcus

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PTGui in general has no problem with different focal lengths. It's just
that there's special case handling built in for the InstaOneR because it
is a dual lens fisheye camera, and PTGui currently does not check which
module is attached.

You can send the file via dropbox, wetransfer, google drive, or whatever
is convenient, to support at ptgui dot com.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 22/07/2020 15:10, Marcus Casey wrote:
> Thank you Joost,
>
> The metadata seems to be the problem. I remember a SIFT software years
> ago by Kekus called Calico, and it could easily handle different focal
> lengths, although the sensor was the same.
> How do you want the files? 37MB each...
>
> Marcus
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:38:36 AM UTC+1, PTGui Support wrote:
>
> It should work, although I haven't checked if PTGui correctly handles
> the metadata of the OneR with the 1" module. PTGui might get confused
> and think it is a dual fisheye image.
>
> If anyone could send me a sample image I'd be grateful.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
>
> On 22/07/2020 09:35, Erik Krause wrote:
> > Am 22.07.2020 um 03:55 schrieb Marcus Casey:
> >> I have a question about using mixed focal length, and sensor
> parameter,
> >> images in the gui. Making panos with the 360 mod is simple enough,
> >> however
> >> there are occasions when better resolution in one part of the
> scene - the
> >> main focus, if you like - would really help. I was thinking that
> a scene
> >> could be shot with the 360 module, and then the 1" mod swapped
> in to
> >> take a
> >> supplementary shot. Can the settings in PTGui accommodate this?
> >
> > Yes, this has always been possible and is even easier now that PTGui
> > supports multiple lens profiles per project.
> >
> > --
> > Erik Krause
> > http://www.erik-krause.de
> >
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Marcus Casey

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Jul 22, 2020, 11:31:54 AM7/22/20
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That's on the way to you now.

Thanks for your time on this Joost.

Mike Bosschaert

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Aug 9, 2020, 5:35:22 PM8/9/20
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Hi all,
Is there already some news on this item?
I'm very interested in this setup as well, combining the double fisheye with 4K images of the One R (I do not have the 1", sadly ;-) ).
I notice that when I import the 4K-mod images in PTgui the lens- and image characteristics are not correct.Stitching 4 images, made in 90 degree horizontal angles (lens in ultra-wide mode) gives bizarre images. I notice that, while importing 1 image, always 2 images are represented, which gives the impression that when an insta360 One R is found in the exif that it automatically assumes the double fisheye image.
It would be great if the correct lens module would be detected.

I'm now working on a design for a 3D printable panohead for the insta360, and depending on the outcomes here, the design may be modified. Like if I manage to make  a perfect stitch with 8 images in 2 rounds with the cam horizontally (not in an angle as with panohero) that would make the panohead more generic). I really like the PanoHero design but you always have your images in an angle to the horizon.

BTW, I'm running PTGui in Linux under Wine which works perfectly well, have not managed to get the Linux version to work...

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Marcus Casey

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I do hope there will be some news on this too Mike. So far the silence has been deafening. I've just made a tour for a friend/client, and the limitations of the 360mod are very apparent. It would be fantastic to get the 1" to work with it. I've so far had no luck myself.

Marcus

John Houghton

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Aug 11, 2020, 4:14:08 PM8/11/20
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On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 10:35:22 PM UTC+1, Mike Bosschaert wrote:
Hi all,
Is there already some news on this item?
I'm very interested in this setup as well, combining the double fisheye with 4K images of the One R (I do not have the 1", sadly ;-) ).
I notice that when I import the 4K-mod images in PTgui the lens- and image characteristics are not correct.Stitching 4 images, made in 90 degree horizontal angles (lens in ultra-wide mode) gives bizarre images. I notice that, while importing 1 image, always 2 images are represented, which gives the impression that when an insta360 One R is found in the exif that it automatically assumes the double fisheye image.
It would be great if the correct lens module would be detected.

Until a fix is available, you should be able to handle the 4K images by deleting one of the pair automatically created and assigning alternative lens parameters in an additional lens profile as appropriate for the 4K images (rectilinear?), and updating the mask and crop settings. I'm not familiar with this camera myself, but I am willing to try this if you care to supply a set of images if it would help.

John

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Thx John for your reply and offer.
Currently I only have the 4K, the 1"inch was out of stock. Insta360 say the 4K sensor is 1/2.3 but so far they have not given the exact dimensions. It should be something like 6.17x4.11 mm. The focal length for the 4K  they give is 16.4 (I assume relative to full frame, I guess). Cannot imagine this is a real value.
To be able to test the stitching, what kind of images would be required? I do not have a panohead for the One R 4K. I could make a series in a somewhat wider space but I probably cannot avoid that the lens moves 2-3 cm. . I could make 2 series of 4 pictures, one facing 45° down and one 45° up, would that work?
The 4K lens can be set to 'wide'  and 'ultrawide', I guess the latter is required?
Thx
Mike

BTW  for the 1-inch mod the focal length given by the manufacturer is 14.4 mm

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John Houghton

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On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 10:09:42 PM UTC+1, inso...@gmail.com wrote:
Thx John for your reply and offer.
Currently I only have the 4K, the 1"inch was out of stock. Insta360 say the 4K sensor is 1/2.3 but so far they have not given the exact dimensions. It should be something like 6.17x4.11 mm. The focal length for the 4K  they give is 16.4 (I assume relative to full frame, I guess). Cannot imagine this is a real value.
To be able to test the stitching, what kind of images would be required? I do not have a panohead for the One R 4K. I could make a series in a somewhat wider space but I probably cannot avoid that the lens moves 2-3 cm. . I could make 2 series of 4 pictures, one facing 45° down and one 45° up, would that work?
The 4K lens can be set to 'wide'  and 'ultrawide', I guess the latter is required?
Thx
Mike

BTW  for the 1-inch mod the focal length given by the manufacturer is 14.4 mm

Mike, I found a sample image for the 1-inch mod and loaded that into PTGui with a effective focal length 14.4, and the angular fov is about  102x80 degrees.  You can add a single image many times to see how they might overlap in different prospective shooting patterns.  2 rows of 4 at +/-45 degrees pitch don't overlap vertically.

For shooting indoors, you would ideally need a simple custom panorama head that is designed according to the same principles that apply for all spherical panorama heads to avoid parallax issues.

John

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John, could you point me to how to calculate the angular FOV for the 4K, or should that information be in the EXIF? 
I'll try to find out if there is a setup (like rotating the cameraposition to overcome the vertical gap) which could cover the full horizontal and vertical 360°

I've compared some series of 4K and 2xfisheye images. The consistent difference is that the max aperture for the 4K=2.8 and for the dual fisheye=2.0. This may be useful for PTGui to make a distinction between images by the 2 configurations. I guess for the 1-inch lens the max aperture is 3.2.
Mike

Op dinsdag 11 augustus 2020 om 23:57:40 UTC+2 schreef John Houghton:

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Hi Mike,

You should be able to stitch the images with these settings:

Focal length: 14.4mm
Full frame fisheye
Crop factor (sensor size): 2.77x

PTGui currently will load each image twice (assuming it’s a dual fisheye lens). You need to remove each duplicate image. A future version will fix this.
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John Houghton

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Mike, PTGui calculates the hfov for you. All you need do is add a sample image and specify the lens effective focal length together with a crop factor of 1.  Use Fit on the Panorama Editor and display the Projection option on the fly-out menu to see what both the horizontal and vertical angles are. Using the camera in portrait orientation would enable full vertical coverage in 2 rows and 6 shots around..

John 

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John, Joost,
I can't manage to get reasonable results with my 4K mod lens. Not even just 2 images. I'm using PTGui 12.9. When I enter the lensparameters I always end up with a very narrow FOV.
Any tips? I could upload some images as example?
Mike

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John Houghton

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On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:32:39 AM UTC+1, inso...@gmail.com wrote:
John, Joost,
I can't manage to get reasonable results with my 4K mod lens. Not even just 2 images. I'm using PTGui 12.9. When I enter the lensparameters I always end up with a very narrow FOV.
Any tips? I could upload some images as example?

A couple of sample images would be very helpful if you could upload them.

John 

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Here's a link to 2 images created with the 4K-mod


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John Houghton

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On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 12:59:33 PM UTC+1, inso...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a link to 2 images created with the 4K-mod

 Mike, I managed an excellent stitch.  After adding the images, I deleted the duplicates and cleared masks and crops. Project file attached.

The lens parameters proved to be fullrame fisheye with equivalent focal length of 16.74, which is more-or-less in agreement with the quoted effective focal length of 16.4 on their web site. The HFOV of the panorama is 200 degrees.

John


IMG_20200813_063401_00_205 Panorama.pts

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Thx John, I'll be able to look at it tonight as I have no PTGui available at my office. Can I open this pts file also with the non-Pro version? If not I'll upgrade to pro.
Mike

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John Houghton

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On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 3:14:44 PM UTC+1, inso...@gmail.com wrote:
Thx John, I'll be able to look at it tonight as I have no PTGui available at my office. Can I open this pts file also with the non-Pro version? If not I'll upgrade to pro.

Mike, The project file was created with V12 beta but can be opened with V11 as it doesn't make use of any fancy stuff in V12.  I've attached the stitch output so you don't have to wait to see it.

John 
IMG_20200813_063401_00_205 Panorama.jpg

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This really looks impressive, John, looking forward to reproduce it at home!


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Hi John,
I've tried your setup and it is amazing. I also repeated it with a set of 4 (90° angle) and a set of 8 (4 facing 45° down and 4 facing up) and also for these sets (taken handheld) the results are extremely good.

Meanwhile, interesting for making the Insta360 camera recognized by PTGui is the following.
When I download the images directly from the SDcard, the camera Model is identified as "Insta360 OneR", the FNumber=2.8, where the FNumber can distinguish it form the other lens-modules.
However when the images are uploaded to the smartphone app and 'exported' to 'DCIM/Camera"  the Model name is changed into "One R.PHOTO_NORMAL", and the FNumber tag is removed.

Thanks again, John, for sharing your knowledge,
Mike

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Steve_N

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Hi there. Am I right that I can only stitch the 1-inch photos with a newer version of Ptgui? I only have an older pro version 11.31. Or is it also possible with this version? Thanks!

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It's possible, just not entirely automatic.

Before loading the images, go to Project Settings and set:
Support dual fisheye lens panoramic cameras: No

After loading your images, set the lens type to 5.5mm full frame fisheye
and the camera sensor size to 2.73x crop factor.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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On 16/12/2022 15:19, 'Steve_N' via PTGui Support wrote:
> Hi there. Am I right that I can only stitch the 1-inch photos with a
> newer version of Ptgui? I only have an older pro version 11.31. Or is it
> also possible with this version? Thanks!
>
> inso...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 13. August 2020 um 21:50:39 UTC+2:
>
> Hi John,
> I've tried your setup and it is amazing. I also repeated it with a
> set of 4 (90° angle) and a set of 8 (4 facing 45° down and 4 facing
> up) and also for these sets (taken handheld) the results are
> extremely good.
>
> Meanwhile, interesting for making the Insta360 camera recognized by
> PTGui is the following.
> When I download the images directly from the SDcard, the camera
> *Model* is identified as "*Insta360 OneR*", the FNumber=2.8, where
> the FNumber can distinguish it form the other lens-modules.
> However when the images are uploaded to the smartphone app and
> 'exported' to 'DCIM/Camera"  the *Model* name is changed into "*One
> R.PHOTO_NORMAL*", and the *FNumber* tag is removed.
>
> Thanks again, John, for sharing your knowledge,
> Mike
>
> Op donderdag 13 augustus 2020 om 17:14:39 UTC+2 schreef
> inso...@gmail.com:
>
> This really looks impressive, John, looking forward to reproduce
> it at home!
>
>
> Op donderdag 13 augustus 2020 om 16:41:22 UTC+2 schreef John
> Houghton:
>
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 3:14:44 PM UTC+1,
> inso...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thx John, I'll be able to look at it tonight as I have
> no PTGui available at my office. Can I open this pts
> file also with the non-Pro version? If not I'll upgrade
> to pro.
>
>
> Mike, The project file was created with V12 beta but can be
> opened with V11 as it doesn't make use of any fancy stuff in
> V12.  I've attached the stitch output so you don't have to
> wait to see it.
>
> John
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Steve_N

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Ok, thats good to hear. So, when I import the DNG photo the window with the Camera Sensor Size pops up. Which settings should I input there?

PTGui Support

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That would be Crop factor: 2.73x

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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> Ok, thats good to hear. So, when I import the DNG photo the window with
> the Camera Sensor Size pops up. Which settings should I input there?
>
> PTGui Support schrieb am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2022 um 15:56:32 UTC+1:
>
> It's possible, just not entirely automatic.
>
> Before loading the images, go to Project Settings and set:
> Support dual fisheye lens panoramic cameras: No
>
> After loading your images, set the lens type to 5.5mm full frame
> fisheye
> and the camera sensor size to 2.73x crop factor.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost Nieuwenhuijse
> www.ptgui.com <http://www.ptgui.com>
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Steve_N

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Hm, that seems not to work for me. Maybe there´s something wrong in the setting, would be great if you could take a look.pt.jpg

John Houghton

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Steve, Those settings look fine.  How doesn't that work?  Can you share some images again?

John

Steve_N

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Hm...there´s no chance to stitch it. I only get this result with the exact settings like above:
Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-17 um 21.19.00.png
Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-17 um 21.19.11.png

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Am 17.12.2022 um 21:22 schrieb 'Steve_N' via PTGui Support:
> there´s no chance to stitch it. I only get this result with the exact
> settings like above:
> [image: Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-17 um 21.19.00.png]
> [image: Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-17 um 21.19.11.png]

I think in this case you should set
Support dual fisheye lens panoramic cameras: Yes...
on Project settings tab before loading the images.

Steve_N

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😭 did not work.
Bildschirmfoto 2022-12-17 um 21.44.59.png
Is there anything else that I need to consider?

I import only the single DNG file, direct from the sd-card. No pre-edit in Insta360 studio.

John Houghton

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Steve, It looks like you will need to unset the option to support dual lens panoramic cameras and load the camera image in twice.  Mask half of each image so that they show the two different image circles.  On the crop tab set the option to have individual crop positions and position the crop circle accurately in each image.  The two images can then be aligned with each other.

John

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Hi Steve,

This seems to be the OneRS dual fisheye camera. The subject of your post
led me to believe you were inquiring about the 1 inch version, which is
a single lens camera.

In any case the camera should be supported natively in PTGui 12.

If you want to stick with PTGui11, you could load your images in the
PTGui Pro 12 trial version, save the project and load it into PTGui Pro
11 for stitching. You could also try setting things up manually in PTGui
11, but this is probably the easiest way.

Also see 3.29:
https://ptgui.com/support.html#3_29

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

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Great, this solution works for me. But there´re also the watermarks in my Pro version. So I think I have to buy a license again :( ...but good to know that it works now. 

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If you've overwritten your PTGui Pro 11, you can re-download and
reinstall it from your account:
https://www.ptgui.com/account

Or you can upgrade your license to PTGui Pro 12 from your account as
well. You don't need to by an entirely new license in any case.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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> Great, this solution works for me. But there´re also the watermarks in
> my Pro version. So I think I have to buy a license again :( ...but good
> to know that it works now.
>
> PTGui Support schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Dezember 2022 um 08:45:44 UTC+1:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> This seems to be the OneRS dual fisheye camera. The subject of your
> post
> led me to believe you were inquiring about the 1 inch version, which is
> a single lens camera.
>
> In any case the camera should be supported natively in PTGui 12.
>
> If you want to stick with PTGui11, you could load your images in the
> PTGui Pro 12 trial version, save the project and load it into PTGui Pro
> 11 for stitching. You could also try setting things up manually in
> PTGui
> 11, but this is probably the easiest way.
>
> Also see 3.29:
> https://ptgui.com/support.html#3_29
> <https://ptgui.com/support.html#3_29>
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Saskia Vader

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For my canon I used an older version of PTGui. It works very well. I read some time ago that PTGui Pro 12.26 can handle files of the Insta One R. So I bought this version.
I can work with the “insp” file by changing the name in “insp.jpg”. It works very well, but I want work with the DNG files.
But the DNG file gives problems. I can’t find an answer on the forum. May be I don’t look good. ☹
I import one DNG. PTgui makes automatically two horizontal files of it. It’s correct
Masker shows two horizontal files and masks are also correct.
But the parameters shows terrible, like the sea.

I read in a forum I can change alpha channel by the DNG settings, but I can’t find this in project settings to try.
Support dual fisheye lens panoramic cameras is set to Yes

I post a screenshot of the parameters and lenssettings.
I hope it's simple issue. 

Op zondag 18 december 2022 om 12:48:16 UTC+1 schreef PTGui Support:
Lens settings.png
Image Parameters.png

John Houghton

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Saskia, It does look like the panorama is simply not ending up in the right orientation.  If you level it by dragging and rotating the image in the Panorama Editor, does it then look correct?

levelit.jpg

John

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Hi Saskia,

It may look dramatic, but I think it's just that the image is not
leveled correctly.

In the panorama editor, drag the image upwards using the left mouse
button. Then rotate it by dragging with the right mouse button.

If you could make your image available for download, I'll investigate
why PTGui didn't level it correctly.

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
www.ptgui.com

On 23-07-2024 11:14, Saskia Vader wrote:
> For my canon I used an older version of PTGui. It works very well. I
> read some time ago that PTGui Pro 12.26 can handle files of the Insta
> One R. So I bought this version.
> I can work with the “insp” file by changing the name in “insp.jpg”. It
> works very well, but I want work with the DNG files.
> But the DNG file gives problems. I can’t find an answer on the forum.
> May be I don’t look good. ☹
> I import one DNG. PTgui makes automatically two horizontal files of it.
> It’s correct
> Masker shows two horizontal files and masks are also correct.
> But the parameters shows terrible, like the sea.
>
> I read in a forum I can change alpha channel by the DNG settings, but I
> can’t find this in project settings to try.
> Support dual fisheye lens panoramic cameras is set to Yes
>
> I post a screenshot of the parameters and lenssettings.
> I hope it's simple issue.
>
> Op zondag 18 december 2022 om 12:48:16 UTC+1 schreef PTGui Support:
>
> If you've overwritten your PTGui Pro 11, you can re-download and
> reinstall it from your account:
> https://www.ptgui.com/account <https://www.ptgui.com/account>
>
> Or you can upgrade your license to PTGui Pro 12 from your account as
> well. You don't need to by an entirely new license in any case.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Joost and John, thank you for the quick response.

Great, I was able to change it in the panorama editor. 😊
Now I'm curious about the next step to change a setting to level the DNG automaticly.
I send a DNG to sup...@ptgui.com
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John Houghton

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Saskia, Until Joost produces a fix, you could make use of a template to stitch other similar images.  When you are satisfied with the result after levelling your current panorama, save the project for use as a template.  What you do is:

1. Start a new project
2. Load in a camera image
3. Go to File->Apply template
4. Select "Other" and navigate to your saved template project file, then click "Open".
5. Go straight to Create Panorama to generate the output panorama. (Don't run "Align Images")

For more information about templates, see the PTGui FAQ at https://ptgui.com/support.html#3_9

John

Saskia Vader

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thank you very much John for the alternative procedure. I'm going to run it tomorrow.
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Got it, thank you!

Kind regards,

Joost Nieuwenhuijse
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> Joost and John, thank you for the quick response.
>
> Great, I was able to change it in the panorama editor. 😊
> Now I'm curious about the next step to change a setting to level the DNG
> automaticly.
> I send a DNG to sup...@ptgui.com.
> Op dinsdag 23 juli 2024 om 15:14:28 UTC+2 schreef PTGui Support:
>
> Hi Saskia,
>
> It may look dramatic, but I think it's just that the image is not
> leveled correctly.
>
> In the panorama editor, drag the image upwards using the left mouse
> button. Then rotate it by dragging with the right mouse button.
>
> If you could make your image available for download, I'll investigate
> why PTGui didn't level it correctly.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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Hello John, 
I tryed,. The image parameters are changing, but the image parameters did not do what they must do. The output pano is still like a sea. 😊
I did not use “controlpoints” when creating the template and in the new project I did not use "align images". 
I think I must wait for Joost. 😉

Template behavior.png

Op dinsdag 23 juli 2024 om 20:05:31 UTC+2 schreef John Houghton:
Saskia, Until Joost produces a fix, you could make use of a template to stitch other similar images.  When you are satisfied with the result after levelling your current panorama, save the project for use as a template.  What you do is:

John Houghton

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Saskia,  Probably you need to uncheck the "Preserve original orientation of the panorama" option in the template project, as the whole purpose of the template is to adjust the orientation to level the panorama.  Try that.

John

Saskia Vader

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Perfect John, that's it. I created also a template for HDR and have made a HDR of 5 pictures. To do is testing Batch stitcher with HDR template. ;-)

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