Don't shoot the messenger! Pweez? Houston, we've gotta small problem with bouncing.

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Christopher Gilland

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Jun 14, 2022, 11:16:28 PM6/14/22
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So, I've got 2 instrument tracks. One is Alecia's Keys through my
Komplete Kontrol with the close auditorium preset I think it's called?
It's literally like the 2nd or 3rd preset from the top, if that helps.


Then, I've got Embertone's Joshua Bell Violin on the 2nd track also with
Komplete Kontrol. When I play in PT itself, things sounds fine. Even
with a 2TB solid state drive, if I bounce, things are 99.99999 percent
there, but with an offline bounce, the piano arpegios I'm doing seem to
be ever so slightly chopping off. It's not as bad as when I had my
7200RPM drive by far! It's way way way better than that, but it is
noticeable. I tried changing the piano to the American Concert D through
Ivory, and also had this issue. I even tried with the free Kawaii X
Player library, and had it. Hammersmith Free is doing it too. The violin
seems to be fine, but yeah, the piano is not for some reason. The odd
thing is, now after moving things to that SSD, in Logic, it's not giving
me this issue, nor is it in Reaper. It's only happening in PT. So, yes,
I did read the guide, and go through the included audio. I may have
missed something, as there was a boatload of material covered, and I'll
definitely go back and review bouncing audio, but is there something in
the bounce dialog pertaining to making sure it doesn't cut off tails
from my audio?


Oddly, if I end with a sustained arpegio chord, even that's cutting off
prematurely, and not fully ringing through. Yeah, both tracks are
selected in the track list table prior to bouncing, and yes, I did make
sure everything was selected from beginning to end. I remember having
this issue when using PT back in the days. I just don't recall what I
did to fix it.


Chris.

Rocco Fiorentino

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Jun 15, 2022, 1:11:24 AM6/15/22
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I’ve also had this happen to me, specifically with pianos. I’m guessing it also happens if you try to freeze that piano track or commit it too? And it never happens if bouncing, freezing or committing are done online, right?
I’ve had this issue and haven’t found a fix for it yet, incredibly annoying. I think Slau may have had this too at one point, so curious to see what others have done for this.

Best,

Rocco
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jimmie smith

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Jun 15, 2022, 9:55:06 AM6/15/22
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Let me see if I can explain this without screwing it up too bad. I had the same problem. I got on the KK list, and Andre told me how to fix it. Sometimes when you bounce using complete control, things just don’t work out quite right. The only way I found to fix this is to record the track in real time. In other words, if you have a piano on your instrument track, you need to set it so that it goes to another audio track. What I mean is create a new audio track named piano. Go to your instrument track and set its output to piano. Go to your piano track and said it’s input to your instrument track. Both tracks need to be armed, then record. There will be no need to bounce since you were already recording to that audio track. That will solve your problem. Also, the track that you are recording to needs to be in stereo. For some reason, this will only work if the audio track is in stereo. Then, if you want to bounce that stereo track to mono, you would do it the same way you normally would bounce a track.


Jimmie Smith

> On Jun 15, 2022, at 12:11 AM, Rocco Fiorentino <accessibl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I’ve also had this happen to me, specifically with pianos. I’m guessing it also happens if you try to freeze that piano track or commit it too? And it never happens if bouncing, freezing or committing are done online, right?
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Rory McDonald

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Jun 15, 2022, 1:09:13 PM6/15/22
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I believe another alternative to this that will work fine is recording the piano to the midi / instrument track, then committing that track to audio and bouncing from there. Thats normally how I work with virtual instruments and have never had a problem. Never really used that specific piano you mentioned, though. But I use kk rather frequently.
Hope this helps.

Rory

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 1:55 AM, jimmie smith <jimmie.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Let me see if I can explain this without screwing it up too bad. I had the same problem. I got on the KK list, and Andre told me how to fix it. Sometimes when you bounce using complete control, things just don’t work out quite right. The only way I found to fix this is to record the track in real time. In other words, if you have a piano on your instrument track, you need to set it so that it goes to another audio track. What I mean is create a new audio track named piano. Go to your instrument track and set its output to piano. Go to your piano track and said it’s input to your instrument track. Both tracks need to be armed, then record. There will be no need to bounce since you were already recording to that audio track. That will solve your problem. Also, the track that you are recording to needs to be in stereo. For some reason, this will only work if the audio track is in stereo. Then, if you want to bounce that stereo track to mono, you would do it the same way you normally would bounce a track.
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Slau Halatyn

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Jun 15, 2022, 4:34:18 PM6/15/22
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Track Bounce with the Offline checkbox unchecked will render everything fine. If the "Import After Bounce" checkbox in the Location area is checked, it'll come right back into the session. I did have this issue a couple of times but haven't seen it in a while.
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John Covici

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Jun 15, 2022, 8:19:52 PM6/15/22
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But if you do that, won't the bounce take as long as the original
program?
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Rory McDonald

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Jun 15, 2022, 8:37:53 PM6/15/22
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It'll play through the whole song yeah. Nothing wrong with that though, just gives you time to get another coffee.

Rory

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> But if you do that, won't the bounce take as long as the original
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Slau Halatyn

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Jun 15, 2022, 8:48:41 PM6/15/22
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Yes, normally this wouldn't be required but, if one is having trouble, it's a workaround.
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