Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol

[Slau Halatyn]

Some of you undoubtedly heard about the recent progress with the accessibility of Native Instruments Komplete 10 with the self-voicing aspect and the s-series controllers. Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that there hasn't been more discussion either here or on the Logic list. Understandably, it isn't a cheap library and the additional necessary expense of the controller probably makes it something for which many folks have to budget and purchase in time. Again, however, it's curious that there hasn't been more talk of it on the list as it relates to an accessible music library. Granted, it was only officially released a few days ago so I suppose there aren't too many that have access. For those interested, Andre Louis will be doing a live Q&A this Saturday. You can listen through the following link:
http://3.onj.me:8000/komplete.m3u

Andre's not a Pro Tools user, to the best of my knowledge, but the information is entirely relevant as the accessibility is a function of the self-voicing aspect of the software along with the S-series controller.

I'll probably do some type of audio walk-through as it specifically relates to Pro Tools. I received the controller and software this morning. As luck would have it, starting this afternoon, I have a series of daily sessions that run all the way into July 4th weekend so I won't have any significant time to spend with the setup but I'll certainly attempt to make some progress here and there before or after sessions.

For those who already have controllers and are considering Komplete, it might be a good idea to simply go for the smallest of the S-series which is the 25-key controller. This would facilitate all of the navigation and it would keep the cost to a minimum.

OK, I'll post further messages as things take shape.

Slau

[Egbert VanOoit]

Hi Slau,

I was not aware there was something new coming out, but I am not as close to the fire as some other people.
Can you tell why a controler is needed when I for instance already have an Avid S3?
is it like a keyboard on where you can play those native instruments?
I ll look for some samples, this stuff is rather new to me.
Thx,

Mac


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[Hi]

Hey Slau, I've had the S61 since it was first released. I've been using
it with Komplete 10 Ultimate without any self voicing features and it's
definitely very usable. Naturally either going by memory or having a
list of what to do is essential. Recently NI changed the features of how
the UI works and it has been way more difficult in the past 3 months
because of different mapping changes to the way the library is accessed.
I'm hoping the self voicing feature will help with some of the new
navigation that was put into the menus.

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
How much would this be if you wanted the full accessibility jazz? I guess it’s mighty expensive.
/Krister

> 21 juni 2016 kl. 20:43 skrev 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com>:
>
> Hey Slau, I've had the S61 since it was first released. I've been using it with Komplete 10 Ultimate without any self voicing features and it's definitely very usable. Naturally either going by memory or having a list of what to do is essential. Recently NI changed the features of how the UI works and it has been way more difficult in the past 3 months because of different mapping changes to the way the library is accessed. I'm hoping the self voicing feature will help with some of the new navigation that was put into the menus.
>

[Cara Quinn]

thanks for posting this Slau.

I actually purchased the Komplete 10 Ultimate update along with the S 88 a couple of weeks ago but also have not had time to set this up yet. So I too am looking forward to hearing about others’ experiences with this.

It’s funny as I really do want to get this up and running but everything in the universe it seems is shouting to be taken care of first. :) So when I get back into town next week I may finally have some time with some sighted assistance to get the keyboard software and all of the updates installed.

I have used the keyboard as a plain midi controller and really love it so I am excited about the libraries! :)

Thanks again and do have a great day!

Cheers!

Cara

[TheOreoMonster]

My basic understanding is so long as you get one of the native instrument S series controllers you can use it to control whichever complete software package you have installed.However it seems everyone has been getting it with Complete ultimate so i do hope its not limited to ultimate only and will work with the other complete software packages. That being said you will still need one of the Native Instruments S series controllers to use it.

[Chris Smart]

and, as far as I know, You will still need
sighted asistance installing and registering the
software. That's more than a little ironic, no?

Anyway, to contact Native Instruments, go to:
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/contact-support/tech-support-form/
Chris

At 06:50 PM 6/21/2016, you wrote:
>My basic understanding is so long as you get one
>of the native instrument S series controllers
>you can use it to control whichever complete
>software package you have installed.However it
>seems everyone has been getting it with Complete
>ultimate so i do hope its not limited to
>ultimate only and will work with the other
>complete software packages. That being said you
>will still need one of the Native Instruments S series controllers to use it.
>
> > On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Krister Ekstrom
> <kri...@kristersplace.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > How much would this be if you wanted the full

> accessibility jazz? I guess it’s mighty expensive.

----------------------------------------
"There are two means of refuge from the miseries
of life: music and cats." - Albert Schweitzer

[Hi]

Hi Chris, you can install everything yourself. I did all 400GB at the
time which was way before any of these updates came out. I used the self
voicing feature today and I have to say it's much better than trying to
figure out where you are and relying on muscle memory. It says
categories, subtypes, groups, programs, patches, plugin types and
probably a lot more since I've used it for 20 minutes. Of course we
can't expect any feedback on envelopes, filters and things of that
nature but it does tell you the octave you're at. The one inaccessible
thing is the NI service center. If you're new to setting everything up
you will need some quick assistance because it is not screen reader
friendly. Once your account is done you won't need it anymore other than
updating software. You can update firmware on your own. The possible
downside is Komplete Kontrol does use a lot more resources than just one
instance of Kontact. So, computers that are older with not much
processing power are not good candidates for using something like this.
All of the nobs are touch sensitive so you do have to be careful about
moving your hands around because you certainly can inadvertently change
something without knowing.

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joe,
Yep, a couple of blind users have been using the library without any self-voicing functionality with success. It'll be nice to have the additional feedback. Looking forward to it.

On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:43 PM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Slau, I've had the S61 since it was first released. I've been using it with Komplete 10 Ultimate without any self voicing features and it's definitely very usable. Naturally either going by memory or having a list of what to do is essential. Recently NI changed the features of how the UI works and it has been way more difficult in the past 3 months because of different mapping changes to the way the library is accessed. I'm hoping the self voicing feature will help with some of the new navigation that was put into the menus.
>

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Cara,
Yeah, it takes some time and you'll have to devote a little time with sighted assistance for the initial updating after installation but I'm sure you'll love it afterwards :)
Slau

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joe,
Incidentally, not sure if this was the case when you installed originally but, for those who might be unaware, the package comes with a USB drive with the installer package. I was glad to learn I wouldn't have to download for hours :)

On Jun 21, 2016, at 8:53 PM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris, you can install everything yourself. I did all 400GB at the time which was way before any of these updates came out. I used the self voicing feature today and I have to say it's much better than trying to figure out where you are and relying on muscle memory. It says categories, subtypes, groups, programs, patches, plugin types and probably a lot more since I've used it for 20 minutes. Of course we can't expect any feedback on envelopes, filters and things of that nature but it does tell you the octave you're at. The one inaccessible thing is the NI service center. If you're new to setting everything up you will need some quick assistance because it is not screen reader friendly. Once your account is done you won't need it anymore other than updating software. You can update firmware on your own. The possible downside is Komplete Kontrol does use a lot more resources than just one instance of Kontact. So, computers that are older with not much processing power are not good candidates for using something like this. All of the nobs are touch sensitive so you do have to be careful about moving your hands around because you certainly can inadvertently change something without knowing.
>

[Slau Halatyn]

Hey Joe,
It occurs to me that, since you've had a good head start, perhaps you might consider recording a little demo of what one might expect by using Komplete with Pro Tools and how it is to use the self-voicing feature alongside VoiceOver.

[Chris Smart]

Ah ok, sorry for my previous comment then.

Yes, from the sounds of Andre's demo, it does sound excelent.
I'm certainly glad NI have decided to be more inclusive. :)

[Justin Wack]

Hi:

I know this was addressed, but i was wondering if it is required that you buy ultimate or can I buy a skinned down version of complete? All I really want is Massive as I am into producing EDM and would love to save some money if possible.

Thanks in advance for the help

Justin

Sent from my iPhone

[Patrick Schuppe]

Hello Slau,
Thanks a million for this! I was complitly unaware of this as are many people!
I will defenitly listen to the Sessions. Any audio-demo of how it
might work is much appriciated!

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[Kevin Reeves]

I'm blown away by the fact that you get Komplete select with a purchase
of a controller. I had no idea. Looks like I might be getting this rig
sooner than later.

[Ronald van Rhijn]

This is very good news because I have been waiting to use Kontakt for a long time. That is, if it is possible to install Kontakt based 3rd party instruments and use these with the selfvoicing feature?

Anyone knows?
Ronald

> Op 22 jun. 2016, om 02:53 heeft 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Chris, you can install everything yourself. I did all 400GB at the time which was way before any of these updates came out. I used the self voicing feature today and I have to say it's much better than trying to figure out where you are and relying on muscle memory. It says categories, subtypes, groups, programs, patches, plugin types and probably a lot more since I've used it for 20 minutes. Of course we can't expect any feedback on envelopes, filters and things of that nature but it does tell you the octave you're at. The one inaccessible thing is the NI service center. If you're new to setting everything up you will need some quick assistance because it is not screen reader friendly. Once your account is done you won't need it anymore other than updating software. You can update firmware on your own. The possible downside is Komplete Kontrol does use a lot more resources than just one instance of Kontact. So, computers that are older with not much processing power are not good candidates for using something like this. All of the nobs are touch sensitive so you do have to be careful about moving your hands around because you certainly can inadvertently change something without knowing.
>

[Phil Muir]

Yes this works on the Mac.

[Carlos Taylor]

Maybe I missed it, but what time is Andre’s demonstration scheduled for?

[Ronald van Rhijn]

I work on Mac with Pro Tools and maybe sometime Pro Logic. I am not specifically interested in the Complete 10 suite, but in the selfvoicing of it. Although the Complete suite could be nice, I want to get some Kontakt based 3rd party wind instruments, amongst others. And use them with the selfvoicing feature.

Ronald

[Chi Kim]

Hi All,


I just heard from Andre, and he said he's planning to demo at 5pm in UK
time.

He also said there will be an archive for people living in different
timezone.


Chi

[Hi]

Hey Slau, when I first got Ultimate it shipped on a drive. The problem
was when they updated the library between versions it was then mandatory
that you downloaded the entire library again through various different
instrument downloaders which was extremely cumbersome and time
consuming. A USB drive would have been very welcome. I appreciate the
vote of confidence in thinking I could do a demo but for now I'll leave
it to the pros who seem to have had a head start on the self voicing
feature. However, if I hear something that wasn't covered specifically
for PT I'll gladly chime in. The only thing I can think of off hand is
the instance button which must be used every time you instantiate a new
instrument or midi track. If you have 8 instrument tracks and want to
get to #4 in order to change a sound, you'll have to press the instance
button, move back to #1 and count 3 more clicks of the nob to get to #4.
When you hit record for instrument #4 in PT you'll then hear the
instrument on that track being played. Unfortunately there's no audible
way of knowing what instrument you're on in terms of instances so it's
very important to keep track or you'll be changing the wrong sound for
the wrong PT track. One good way is using names that correspond to the
track you're using. So, if it's a bass track you might want to name the
track in PT Bass Instance #3 Kontact Slap1. That way you'll know to go
to instance # 3 on the keyboard if you want to change the sound and
you'll also know the name of the original sound in case you want to
revert back at some point. Of course if you did change the sound you
should also update the Name of the track in PT to reflect the name
change but the instance will always remain #3. Another issue on the same
point is if you duplicate a track in PT. Every time you do this it will
create a new instance which can be confusing because it will put the
duplicated instance after the last one. That means if you had 8
instrument tracks in PT and duplicated track 5 the instance in Komplete
Kontrol would then be #9 because it would be created after the last
instance. In that case you would name the duplicated track using the
"instance #9" tag even though it would appear as track #6 in PT. It only
takes one wrong turn of a nob to change your sound forever and not
remember what it was supposed to be so it's vital to keep track of
everything. I experimented with 18 instrument tracks of Komplete Kontrol
yesterday with a few duplicated tracks that I changed sounds on and
things went smoothly without CPU overload. As I previously said Kontrol
is a bit more process intensive than other VI's and I don't know how
many tracks you would get on a smaller system. Using commit or freeze
would be best for freeing up CPU power and memory load.

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joe,

That's very helpful information regarding the instances. For years I've taken to naming keyboard tracks by their patch names so the prejudicial muscle memory will come in handy.

Incidentally, I've been having an absolute nightmare of a time with installation. I've been on Team Viewer sessions with Sweetwater several times and they can't seem to figure it out. We have one more potential solution but I won't have a chance to give it a go until a small window of opportunity on Monday morning. For what it's worth, for anybody who buys Komplete Kontrol Ultimate, it would probably be a good idea to install the Komplete Kontrol package first, do the downloading of updates, etc. and only then install the Komplete 10 Ultimate. although there doesn't seem to be any explicit instruction to do it in that order, the guys at sweetwater seem to agree that it appears to matter. Anyway, more excitement.

Slau

On Jun 24, 2016, at 11:34 AM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Slau, when I first got Ultimate it shipped on a drive. The problem was when they updated the library between versions it was then mandatory that you downloaded the entire library again through various different instrument downloaders which was extremely cumbersome and time consuming. A USB drive would have been very welcome. I appreciate the vote of confidence in thinking I could do a demo but for now I'll leave it to the pros who seem to have had a head start on the self voicing feature. However, if I hear something that wasn't covered specifically for PT I'll gladly chime in. The only thing I can think of off hand is the instance button which must be used every time you instantiate a new instrument or midi track. If you have 8 instrument tracks and want to get to #4 in order to change a sound, you'll have to press the instance button, move back to #1 and count 3 more clicks of the nob to get to #4. When you hit record for instrument #4 in PT you'll then hear the instrument on that track being played. Unfortunately there's no audible way of knowing what instrument you're on in terms of instances so it's very important to keep track or you'll be changing the wrong sound for the wrong PT track. One good way is using names that correspond to the track you're using. So, if it's a bass track you might want to name the track in PT Bass Instance #3 Kontact Slap1. That way you'll know to go to instance # 3 on the keyboard if you want to change the sound and you'll also know the name of the original sound in case you want to revert back at some point. Of course if you did change the sound you should also update the Name of the track in PT to reflect the name change but the instance will always remain #3. Another issue on the same point is if you duplicate a track in PT. Every time you do this it will create a new instance which can be confusing because it will put the duplicated instance after the last one. That means if you had 8 instrument tracks in PT and duplicated track 5 the instance in Komplete Kontrol would then be #9 because it would be created after the last instance. In that case you would name the duplicated track using the "instance #9" tag even though it would appear as track #6 in PT. It only takes one wrong turn of a nob to change your sound forever and not remember what it was supposed to be so it's vital to keep track of everything. I experimented with 18 instrument tracks of Komplete Kontrol yesterday with a few duplicated tracks that I changed sounds on and things went smoothly without CPU overload. As I previously said Kontrol is a bit more process intensive than other VI's and I don't know how many tracks you would get on a smaller system. Using commit or freeze would be best for freeing up CPU power and memory load.
>

[Carlos Taylor]

Incase anyone missed Andre’s fantastic demo, he has posted a recording. You can access it with the link below. This was really awesome to hear!

https://soundcloud.com/andre-louis/komplete-kontrol-with-speech

> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Slau Halatyn <slauh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Rocco Fiorentino]

Hi everyone,

Has anyone gotten this to work with Pro Tools? If so, could you post an audio demo specifically for Pro Tools? Really exciting stuff.

[Driza aka Adrian]

what's up people? did a quick demonstration on how you cand rip audio off
of sound cloud! saw a couple of people were having trouble downloading
andre's demo that he did on the native instruments control! so I saved it
using jaws 17 and windows 7 in my demostration! anyone want it, just hit
me up at my email, dri...@att.net

and I'll send it to you through send space! yep! peace and God
bless!-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 2:28 PM
To: ptac...@googlegroups.com ; 'Gary Readfern-Gray' via Pro Tools
Accessibility

Subject: Re: Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol

[Jens Gebel]

Am 27.06.2016 um 14:47 schrieb Veronica Reiff <je...@citysoundstudio.de>:

Hi there erverybody,

I’m Jens from Freiburg, Germany, still working with Logic in my studio, but am now getting started with Protools and VoiceOver. Basically it works fine, but I wonder how to access a specific clip with the voiceover cursor in the edit window. I can easily access clips in the cliplist , but not one single clip in the main window.


Greetings from citysoundstudio and thanks a lot for all tricks and tipps :)

Jens

Jens Gebel
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[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Jens,

You'll need to use the keyboard shortcuts for navigating within the Edit window timeline. The shortcuts are all listed in a pdf that resides in the Documentation folder within the Pro Tools folder in your Documents folder. I've extracted most of that info, stripped out Windows shortcuts and saved it as a plain text document. You can download it here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/Pro%20Tools%20Keyboard%20Shortcuts%20%20for%20Blind%20Users.txt

Search for the section on navigation and editing.
Hope that helps,
Slau

[Kevin Reeves]

It will be no different in Pro Tools, since the self voicing stuff won't be dealing with PT itself.

You'll instantiate it like any instrument track, press the browse button on your controller, and away you go.

I'll be working with it extensively in August, and will report my findings, but I don't think there will be any differences.

[Hi]

Hi Slau, I recently did an install on another machine and for me it was
very straight forward. First I installed what needed to be installed on
the system drive. Then I did the large factory libraries on a slave SSD
drive. After that I did the updates and the Komplete Kontrol software in
that order. I did everything myself without any assistance and things
went well. Of course you would then need assistance in PT to give NI the
proper location of the library. I'm not sure why you had difficulty with
the install unless there's something different going on because you used
the USB drive? The small challenge was telling the factory library where
to install because VO only says the word "text." When you interact with
it you'll get something like a pulldown menu where I could only use up
and down arrows to navigate. There's a rhythm to it though and once you
get it you can just go right through all of the separate installers one
by one. I did listen to the self voicing demo and it should be clear to
everyone other than the instance part I wrote about. Apparently PT is
different then Logic via the instance button. In logic you can just
instantiate a new track and hit record and insert Komplete Kontrol. In
PT it's necessary to use the instance button on the keyboard with each
new PT track as I previously wrote about. It's a bit slow trying to find
sounds because of so much scrolling around but it certainly is a welcome
change from having to remember everything and hoping you land on the
right instrument category and sound.

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joe,

The initial installation is not a problem as it's a standard installer. The stand-alone update downloaders are the ones that seem completely inaccessible. I don't mean the individual ISO images like Drum Lab, etc. but the initial login and subsequent navigation in the dedicated downloaders. All of this may become a moot point in the near future with the new Native Access software currently in beta. We'll see…
Slau

On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:53 PM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Slau, I recently did an install on another machine and for me it was very straight forward. First I installed what needed to be installed on the system drive. Then I did the large factory libraries on a slave SSD drive. After that I did the updates and the Komplete Kontrol software in that order. I did everything myself without any assistance and things went well. Of course you would then need assistance in PT to give NI the proper location of the library. I'm not sure why you had difficulty with the install unless there's something different going on because you used the USB drive? The small challenge was telling the factory library where to install because VO only says the word "text." When you interact with it you'll get something like a pulldown menu where I could only use up and down arrows to navigate. There's a rhythm to it though and once you get it you can just go right through all of the separate installers one by one. I did listen to the self voicing demo and it should be clear to everyone other than the instance part I wrote about. Apparently PT is different then Logic via the instance button. In logic you can just instantiate a new track and hit record and insert Komplete Kontrol. In PT it's necessary to use the instance button on the keyboard with each new PT track as I previously wrote about. It's a bit slow trying to find sounds because of so much scrolling around but it certainly is a welcome change from having to remember everything and hoping you land on the right instrument category and sound.
>

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi. Does one need the komplete ultimate package or can i get the standard one? What libraries will i miss with the standard package and can those libraries be gotten separately if so desired?
/Krister


Skickat från min iPhone

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hey folks,
I am crossposting this to see if anyone has had success in locating the native instruments library for the first time. I was able to install the Komplete Ultimate library and get everything set up. The issue I am having is now pointing either ProTools or logic to the sample library on my drive. Any ideas on what I should be looking for? I know I'll need cited assistance but I'm not quite sure on what to tell the person helping me to look for…

Thanks,
Vinny
Email: vinnyp...@gmail.com

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:53 PM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility <ptac...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Slau, I recently did an install on another machine and for me it was very straight forward. First I installed what needed to be installed on the system drive. Then I did the large factory libraries on a slave SSD drive. After that I did the updates and the Komplete Kontrol software in that order. I did everything myself without any assistance and things went well. Of course you would then need assistance in PT to give NI the proper location of the library. I'm not sure why you had difficulty with the install unless there's something different going on because you used the USB drive? The small challenge was telling the factory library where to install because VO only says the word "text." When you interact with it you'll get something like a pulldown menu where I could only use up and down arrows to navigate. There's a rhythm to it though and once you get it you can just go right through all of the separate installers one by one. I did listen to the self voicing demo and it should be clear to everyone other than the instance part I wrote about. Apparently PT is different then Logic via the instance button. In logic you can just instantiate a new track and hit record and insert Komplete Kontrol. In PT it's necessary to use the instance button on the keyboard with each new PT track as I previously wrote about. It's a bit slow trying to find sounds because of so much scrolling around but it certainly is a welcome change from having to remember everything and hoping you land on the right instrument category and sound.
>

[Ramy Moustafa]

aha, and what about the Kontakt itself? will it be accessible with pro
tools or not? am using just the kontakt but in this time i will not
buy the complete.
thanks.

--
Ramy MoustafaSaber
Music instructor @:
Faculty ofmusical education
Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
Harmony Recording Studio
https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg

[Kevin Reeves]

You will need Komplete, as well as one of the S series Controllers to
take advantage of the accessibility features.

Kontakt itself, nor any other single Native Instrument is accessible
without this setup[.


Kevin

[Ramy Moustafa]

ok, but if i don't have this hard ware, after setup, can i use kontakt
at all, or it's impossible with Voice over?

[Kevin Reeves]

No. It is not accessible with voiceover.

Sent from my iPhone

[Ramy Moustafa]

Great, but may i buy the hardware without the full komplete? 

Ramy moustafa saber

Musicc instructor at:

faculty of musical education

music arranger and sound engineer

Sent from my iPhone

[Kevin Reeves]

Yes. You can just buy the hardware, which comes with complete select. However, I don't know if contact is in that collection. Since all these libraries are based on contact, it might come standard.

Sent from my iPhone

[John Gunn]

Hello All,

If you missed the below stream, I have recorded and placed the file in DropBox. Time is 1 hour, 19 minutes and 33 seconds. File size is roughly 76MB and I’ll keep it up for a week.

John

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15808496/Komplete%20Kontrol%20Speech%20Demo.mp3

> On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Slau Halatyn <slauh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Some of you undoubtedly heard about the recent progress with the accessibility of Native Instruments Komplete 10 with the self-voicing aspect and the s-series controllers. Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that there hasn't been more discussion either here or on the Logic list. Understandably, it isn't a cheap library and the additional necessary expense of the controller probably makes it something for which many folks have to budget and purchase in time. Again, however, it's curious that there hasn't been more talk of it on the list as it relates to an accessible music library. Granted, it was only officially released a few days ago so I suppose there aren't too many that have access. For those interested, Andre Louis will be doing a live Q&A this Saturday. You can listen through the following link:
> http://3.onj.me:8000/komplete.m3u
>
> Andre's not a Pro Tools user, to the best of my knowledge, but the information is entirely relevant as the accessibility is a function of the self-voicing aspect of the software along with the S-series controller.
>
> I'll probably do some type of audio walk-through as it specifically relates to Pro Tools. I received the controller and software this morning. As luck would have it, starting this afternoon, I have a series of daily sessions that run all the way into July 4th weekend so I won't have any significant time to spend with the setup but I'll certainly attempt to make some progress here and there before or after sessions.
>
> For those who already have controllers and are considering Komplete, it might be a good idea to simply go for the smallest of the S-series which is the 25-key controller. This would facilitate all of the navigation and it would keep the cost to a minimum.
>
> OK, I'll post further messages as things take shape.
>
> Slau
>

[Ramy Moustafa]

thanks so much.
but I have 2 questions please:
the 1st one:
can't I even use voice over just to load and save patches, adding
library etc? I don't need any extra services from kontakt, can voice
over help me in that or also no?
the 2nd question:
can you point me to the cheapest kontakt hardware, because my budget
is not so high.
Thanks`

[Kevin Reeves]

You cannot use voiceover to do anything. Loading and saving libraries, adding things to your database, etc., is not accessible at all. The only way to do this is through the complete control set up. The cheapest keyboard is the 25 note controller. It comes with 10 libraries including massive, prism, monarch, a high-quality piano, and electric piano, and others. Through the use of the complete control set up, you will be able to install third-party libraries and load them. As long as they comply with the NKS protocol, Which is native instruments new language for allowing instruments to communicate with the keyboard controller's knob mapping.

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[Ramy Moustafa]

Thanks so much for this info.

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer

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[Ramy Moustafa]

So, for me i depend on most of my tracks on third party libraries on kontakt like vienna and so on, is there a sorution?

Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer

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> On Jul 4, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Kevin Reeves <reev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Kevin Reeves]

The only way for this to work, is if you were to purchase one of the control keyboards. Then, as long as the contact libraries you were interested in using complied with the NKS standard, which is pretty new, they would be accessible. There is no other way. The native instruments website has a growing list of third-party libraries that use this nKS standard.

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[Ronald van Rhijn]

Kevin, thanks for that info. It’s essential to know cause I want to use third party Kontakt plugs with a Komplete Control. I now hear this for the first time the plugs need to be of the new NKS standard.
Thanks again.

Ronald

[Ramy Moustafa]

Aha Thank sso much for all These info.
but, am very new to Mac, can we make like scripts or something for the
Voice over to Read the Kontakt Screen? I don't want to perciouse the
Hole Komplete, and am using the latest version from kontakt on
windows, all I can do is to load and save patches.
it's not ok but it's ok for me now.
so, even if I well buy the controller I will not e able to use it with
all myt libraries.
any Other Ideas?

[Darwin May]

Hello, I just ordered my complete 10 software and everything, but I have a question now I just have to acquire the board, I currently have a Yamaha motif XF, and I was wondering if I got the 25 key board if I could use that 25 keyboard to control the software, and use my Yamaha board to play the notes and such for the tracks? Any help with this question would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

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[TheOreoMonster]

I can’t see a reason that wouldn’t work, and i believe others on her head that intention as well.

[Vinny Pedulla]

Hey Darwin,
As you heard on the Roger group any of the S Kontrollers work with your motif XF.
You can use a 25 and still have all the same accessibility that the bigger controllers would offer you. As long as the motif is connected alongside the S Kontroller, you will have access to both and be able to play on either keyboard.

HTH,
Vinny
Email: vinnyp...@gmail.com

> On Jul 21, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Darwin May <dma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Devon West]

Hi all,

I am new to the Komplete world and want to get in to it soon. I plan on getting the m-32 soon. Is there a resource for documentation on set-up and other useful guides that exists somewhere? If so how can I get to it?

[Slau Halatyn]

Send a blank email message to

komplete-kontrol...@googlegroups.com

That'll start the process. There's a shared Drop Box and a WhatsApp group. You'll find more info by inquiring on the email list.

HTH,

Slau

On Jun 2, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Devon West <devon.m....@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I am new to the Komplete world and want to get in to it soon. I plan on getting the m-32 soon. Is there a resource for documentation on set-up and other useful guides that exists somewhere? If so how can I get to it?

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