Flo Tools 2020.3 is out

[Slau Halatyn]

Just an FYI that last night the latest version of Flo Tools, version 2020.3 compatible with Pro Tools 2020.3, was released. Catalina really clamped down on a few things with the installer and a few people had problems running the installer so we had a number of things to fix so that the installation ran smoothly. Any users who have not yet downloaded the installer or downloaded it before yesterday should re-download the installer from FloTools.org whenever you can.

Cheers!

[John Covici]

Thanks for all the great work, I ran the installer and aside from
about 10 permissions dialogues, it went fine.

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[Slau Halatyn]

Yeah, that's Apple's way of sheltering you in place.

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[JennyK Productions]

Hi. I'm new here and just in the possible transition from Logic to Pro tools. I'll be running kb maestro trial and the PT trial to see if it's something for me. But when I try to extract the this latest version of Flo tools from flotools.org, I get this from my mac : "We've moved .BC.T_kb8eQ8 to your Virus Chest because it was infected with MacOS:Bundlore-FC [Adw].

I'm quite weirded out by that and obviously can't install flotools. . Any thoughts?  

Thoughts?

Jenny

[Slau Halatyn]

Sounds like you're running some kind of antivirus? That's probably where this is coming from. Can you bypass it for specific applications?

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[accessibl...@gmail.com]

Hi jenny,

Thanks so Much for letting us know about this. If you can tell me what software that error was generated from, or as Slau said, if you have a specific antivirus installed, I can take a look into it further. Feel free to message me off list as well if you’d like.

Best,

Rocco                

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On May 24, 2020, at 6:30 PM, JennyK Productions <studiochaoti...@gmail.com> wrote:



[JennyK Productions]

Hi

I'm using Avast security. A can't seem to find any info about it and I can't disable it. I'm getting a bit frustrated.

maybe coffee will help.

:)

J

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[Chi Kim]

For curiosity, I ran the download link through virustotal.com. It doesn't have Avast, but it passed all 80 engines.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/bd2b778837b61c6b57beebbbe63b782077b0231714759df0437314ddc3d5d213/detection

The installer is also notarized for distribution by Apple which includes malware scan.

It's probably a false positive from Avast.

Chi

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Hi Jenny,

I’m happy to help you disable it off list  if you want, so that you can properly install flotools. In the meantime, thank you for the info. I will look into this today.

Best,

Rocco

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[Studio Chaotic Productions]

thanks Guys.

Yeah, I'm tempted to get rid of Avast. It seems all it does is get less accessible each update and I don't need apps trying to tell me what to fear. I get enough of that from the news.

So, I'll do that and flo tools should be fine to open then. I'm also still just playing around with Pro tools First, which reminds me of Garageband, which I hated with a passion after three hours. I have the PT Ultimate trial downloaded, but not installed. So I'll get my crap sorted and installed. Chances are I'll be asking for assistance in a few days. I know I probably shouldn't start all of the PT stuff cold, with no knowledge of Pro tools. But what I am interested in is the possibility of a faster workflow, the way automation appears to be easier, and simply all the information I want in a daw. so I don't see the point of learning PT and still be slowed down by all the things that slow me down in Logic. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but I'm thinking I'll give PT a month. By then, I should know. 

Maybe. :D

And there is such a thing as too much coffee. :D

Jenny

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[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Jenny,

Just so you know "F Tools" is not necessary to run pro tools.

In fact its better to get familiar with  Pro tools before introducing any software that requires you to use  a second layer of key commands not found in the Pro Tools manual.

I also have used Logic pro and found it to be very slow doing the basic audio functions I can fly through in Pro tools ultra, with a HDX card

JMO

Talk soon

Chuck

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"Albert Einstein’

On May 25, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Studio Chaotic Productions wrote:

thanks Guys.

Yeah, I'm tempted to get rid of Avast. It seems all it does is get less accessible each update and I don't need apps trying to tell me what to fear. I get enough of that from the news.

So, I'll do that and floe tools should be fine to open then. I'm also still just playing around with Pro tools First, which reminds me of Garageband, which I hated with a passion after three hours. I have the PT Ultimate trial downloaded, but not installed. So I'll get my crap sorted and installed. Chances are I'll be asking for assistance in a few days. I know I probably shouldn't start all of the PT stuff cold, with no knowledge of Pro tools. But what I am interested in is the possibility of a faster workflow, the way automation appears to be easier, and simply all the information I want in a daw. so I don't see the point of learning PT and still be slowed down by all the things that slow me down in Logic. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but I'm thinking I'll give PT a month. By then, I should know. 

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[Steve Sparrow]

I’d have to agree with these points about logic. It certainly has its uses. but I don’t find it easy doing audio when tracking. But I guess it depends what you use it for. 

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[Studio Chaotic Productions]

Yeah, I'm running PT now without flo tools, just to get a feel for it.  My feeling right now is not great tbh.  I find it very confusing, and using  the built in shortcuts feels like a nightmare at this point.    But I did that because I didn't seem to get flo tools working right so I thought I'd let that be for now.  I have some odd problems whether I use flo or not, like I can't seem to make PT play an audio track that I recorded. The file is created, I checked. I can monitor and get level and peak values, but it won't play. But then, I import a file on a new track and it plays fine. so I made a track preset and use that on the first silent track, and Voila, now I can hear it. But I can't see any difference in the output. Btw, I find the I'O settings to be something of a clusterf. Everything I open or create tells me that some bus or other can't be mapped to something or other.  PT might not like my interface, but I can't imagine that is the issue. 

Sigh.

Actually, I find tracking audio in Logic to be the easiest part. I've been tracking and mixed vocals and guitar for the last five years, pretty much full thime. so, perhaps it's just that I've done it so much, I dunno. What bugs me is the lack of information and the difficulties doing automation and detailed midi editing etc. I find myself going through track after track to find something that is soloed, because of course the focus issue in logic makes me type random letters more often than not, making logic go stupid for all the sudden hotkeys. That is the reason I'm looking at PT. I like working with regions in logic, as I know where everything is, and I can get to them instantly.  As I understand it, PT is supposedly easy to do that stuff with. But at the moment I can't see it.  Okay, so one day in, I have much to look into. :D

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[Michael Holmes]

It’s a matter of familiarity. Once you learn the workflow, it can be as fluid as a sighted engineer, and even more fluid than a sighty who relies on mouse clicks.

The I/O issue sounds like the playback engine was changed. This happens when PT is launched without the interface being on, and it stays that way until changed in setup>playback engine. It’s always worth checking this before opening or creating sessions.

The quick way to deal with mappings in setup>I/O is opening each tab, input, output, and bus, and each time pressing command plus a, then pressing delete, and navigating to and pressing the default button in each tab. The I/O is saved in sessions, which makes it possible to keep internal buses intact.

This group is a fantastic resource, and if you haven’t yet, ask to join the WhatsApp and Dropbox. WhatsApp is a good place to ask questions, and Dropbox is a great collection of basically every resource you’ll need for blindness specific Pro Tools use. We’re a lucky bunch to have peers who collaborate and work with Avid to make this possible. You’re not alone in finding it tricky out of the gate, and having been there myself, I assure you it’s because the amount of control you’ll have is unmatched.

On May 26, 2020, at 08:44, StudioChaotic Productions <studiochaoti...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, I'm running PT now without flo tools, just to get a feel for it.  My feeling right now is not great tbh.  I find it very confusing, and using  the built in shortcuts feels like a nightmare at this point.    But I did that because I didn't seem to get flo tools working right so I thought I'd let that be for now.  I have some odd problems whether I use flo or not, like I can't seem to make PT play an audio track that I recorded. The file is created, I checked. I can monitor and get level and peak values, but it won't play. But then, I import a file on a new track and it plays fine. so I made a track preset and use that on the first silent track, and Voila, now I can hear it. But I can't see any difference in the output. Btw, I find the I'O settings to be something of a clusterf. Everything I open or create tells me that some bus or other can't be mapped to something or other.  PT might not like my interface, but I can't imagine that is the issue. 

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[Studio Chaotic Productions]

Hey

Oh, that is so true. Logic is for me now like a comfort DAW really, but I've come to want more control. Logic is great, but I hate to say it, their quite nice accessibility is more accident than on purpose, and that shows. I read the release notes for the last version and the access notes items were eight or nine. I may be wrong. but it bothered me when going through the list of all the flashy new things and fixes. that list is always endless. So, I don't want to hate on Logic because I really don't, but the changes I'm hoping for there are most likely not going to happen. 

So, my I/O issue was really a non issue in the end. "Idiot behind the steering-wheel", like my dad is fond of saying.  But those failed mappings. they are more annoying than anything so thanks much for that tip. I was afraid of trying to clean stuff out, but that sounds like just the thing.  

Today I made plenty of coffee, had something to eat for once, took a deep breath and started over. :)  Flo tools works beautifully. But I did notice that the double tap has to be really fast, or my keyboard is not as snappy as it should be. Once I figured that out, I could move on.  I found a great video. It was actually the one that got me considering Pro Tools as an option.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AnujDEFCME 

I followed what he was doing. He's a bit fast and doesn't slow down to explain everything he does, but  I did manage to do what he did. Except for the automation bit. Haven't tried that yet. 

With all that said, I am starting to see it now. :D 

I decided to give PT a month, but I may not need that long to decide after all. :D

Oh, and that dropbox. I'd really like to take a peek in there. What do I need to do? I forget.

Jen

 

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[Slau Halatyn]

drop Box invite sent. bTW, you can tweak the double-tap speed through the Flo Tools Preferences: Command+Control+comma.

HTH,

slau

Sigh.

Hi Jenny,



Just an FYI that last night the latest version of Flo Tools, version 2020.3 compatible with Pro Tools 2020.3, was released. Catalina really clamped down on a few things with the installer and a few people had problems running the installer so we had a number of things to fix so that the installation ran smoothly. Any users who have not yet downloaded the installer or downloaded it before yesterday should re-download the installer from FloTools.orgwhenever you can. 

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[Studio Chaotic Productions]

Thanks so much, Slau. Much to dig into there. :D  And thanks again, I didn't even think to check preferences on the double click. Doh.  

Jen

  

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