can not delete audio

[Steve Sparrow]

Ok, what have i done this time.
i’m trying to delete some audio from a project. for some reason i can’t seem to delete anything. I had this all working before.

Basically i’ve gone in to the edit window, and interacted with the track list table. I’ve located the tracks i want and hit v o space to select them. when i look at them the tracks say selected. then i’ve just used my up and down arrow to make my selection. when i press space my selection plays no problem. but when i hit delete nothing seems to happen, the audio remains. What have i missed now.
Steve

[Slau Halatyn]

First thing I'd look at in the Edit window would be to see whether you changed the track display to show Volume or some other information rather than waveform. Make sure you're displaying the waveform or else you won't be deleting audio but rather some other thing like pan automation, send level, mute automation or something similar.

HTH,

Slau

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[Poppa Bear]

Slau, what about in the options list, the curser follows playback and all that jazz? I remember having a similar problem and you told me to check two things in that list and that's what it was. Also Steve, make sure that your loop box isn't checked.

[Steve Sparrow]

ok can you tell me where i would find this.
Steve

[Poppa Bear]

Steve, will your copy and paste still work? Also, are you attempting to delete midi or audio?

[Steve Sparrow]

Hi popper. i’m atempting to delete audio. copy and paste doesn't seem to do much, but not really sure
, have not properly confirmed this as yet.
What is the loop box, or are we talking about loop record. if not loop record where do i find it.

also, what is this display setting in the edit window, how do i find this, so as to check it’s set to wave form.
Steve

[Steve Sparrow]

Hey slau and others, can you tell me where i find this track display, i’ve searched through the edit window, and can’t seem to locate it. so not sure.
Tanks in advance.
Steve

On 4 Dec 2014, at 3:17 pm, Slau Halatyn <slauh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Slau Halatyn]

Good point. Thing is, there are so many possible scenarios and I have to assume that people already know that but, yeah, we all know what assuming means…

Slau

[Slau Halatyn]

Steve,

In the Edit window, bring up the item chooser and type "wave." That should narrow your choices to the display button that should say "waveform." If you don't see this button, there are two possible explanations, actually three but one of those would be that you have no tracks being displayed and I doubt that's the case. The second is that your display is set to something like volume so the word "waveform" would not be displayed. Bring up the item chooser and type "mute." If you can find the mute button, move focus to the next control and it'll be something other than waveform but will surely be at least something. Click on that button and select "waveform."

The third possibility is that your track height is insufficient to display the full names of the buttons. With the track selected, press Control-up arrow twice then perform the steps with the item chooser. Chances are the button is displaying something other than waveform if cutting, pasting and deleting isn't working.

Slau

[Steve Sparrow]

thank you. a few things to try. thanks again for your help slau.
Steve

[Steve Sparrow]

hi again. well here’s the go. i’ve brought up the item chooser in the edit window, and it says wav form. so it looks like that is fine.

not sure if there is anything else i should be checking.

I’m actually wondering if i still have issues with protools that have not been entirely resolved from the glitch i had the other day.
what are your thoughts there.
Think popper bear thought about a couple of things in the option menu i should have a look at. what are they exactly. Anything else worth looking at.
Steve

[David Eagle]

I've been having the same issue. When I load a new project I select my track and then make a selection. The selection definitely has been made. But when I try to delete the audio, nothing happens. Cut and paste are also dimmed. The only way I've managed to get it working is to interact with the tracklist table and just to press control semi colon. I seen to remember that this changes the tracks selected. After this. The delete function works. I have no idea why. DSent from my iPhone

[Poppa Bear]

Hey Steve, you can call me at some point if you would like today, my number is 907-444-3707, If I don't answer I will try and call back within the hour. Maybe we can think about a few things.

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[David Eagle]

Just to correct my last message. I seemingly have to navigate to the track below the one I want to change, and hit control and P. Then the track above will delete. I’m only working with one audio track in my files at the moment. I have three tracks in my project. A blank audio track, a master fader track, and a track with some audio on. I cannot delete the audio unless I navigate to the track below and press control P. No idea why.

[Matt Diemert]

I have seen this happen quite often and ProTools version 11. It does not happen at all and 10, and if I have multiple tracks in a project more than five or six, it typically behaves as expected. My workaround is exactly what David has described here.

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> On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:38 AM, David Eagle <onlin...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Just to correct my last message. I seemingly have to navigate to the track below the one I want to change, and hit control and P. Then the track above will delete. I’m only working with one audio track in my files at the moment. I have three tracks in my project. A blank audio track, a master fader track, and a track with some audio on. I cannot delete the audio unless I navigate to the track below and press control P. No idea why.
>

[David Eagle]

Thanks Matt, always nice to know it’s not just me going mad. I suppose the other solution could be to just add more tracks. I’ll give that a go in my next project. I’m only doing basic editing at the moment on one audio track. Thanks to this list and your excellent tutorials I have got up and running quite fast.

I’ve sent a link to some Waves Plugin Presets which you are welcome to add to your site.

[Slau Halatyn]

Steve,

Make sure track and edit selection is linked under the options menu.

Here's what could be happening for people seeing this behavior: If you open a session and you don't have an insertion point within the track itself, making a selection with only the counters or with the down and up arrows will not make a selection within the audio itself. What you're doing is selecting a range of time but not a range of tracks. If you have insertion following playback within the Preferences dialog (and you certainly should have that checked), You need to scrub at least for a moment to make sure an insertion cursor appears within the track's timeline. Another way to accomplish this is to create another track and use Control-semicolon. While this works, it's an extra track which is now created for no purpose other than to create an insertion. If you already have other tracks in the session, that's not an issue, of course, you can just use the command to move to the lower track and move back up with control-p.

This is another reason why a control surface is indispensable for serious Pro Tools use.

Slau

[Chris Smart]

Hi folks.

What are people using for pitch correction under ProTools?

I'm still a Sonar guy and am about to move from an old version of
Autotune to Melodyne Assistant, now that someone has come up with a
hotspot set for it. I'm just curious if you have access to a version
of Melodyne on the Mac side.

Chris

[David Eagle]

Thanks for that Slau, very helpful as ever.

What I liked about Sonar was that I could make a start selection, press space bar to stop audio, then skip forward quickly into another part of the project, then make an end selection. Pressing space bar would not get rid of my start selection point. This was very useful, especially for the work I do which is largely with speech. I also liked the fact that the space bar would essentially pause the audio, whereas in PT, the space bar starts playback at the selection point. There doesn’t seem to be a way of pausing playback and restarting from where I stopped. The closest I can get to recreating this is to press number 2 on the numeric keypad, which stops playback and moves the project on about half a second. The only way to be able to make a selection where I select a start point, stop the audio and move through the file quickly and then restart playback and make an end selection, is to unlink timeline and edit selection and track and edit selection. But you and others seem to warn against this.

I don’t know whether there are anyways to do this. I suppose I could use markers to get past the issue of PT unselecting my audio whenever I change position and press the space bar.

Sorry to be contrary. I’m just trying to get used to doing quick audio editing in PT, and it doesn’t seem practical to have to sit and wait for the part of the project to come along when I want to make my end selection point. I know that I want to cut the next minute of audio, so I don’t need to listen to it, I need to get to my end point quickly.

Thanks for you patients and help.

[Slau Halatyn]

David,

Control-n toggles the insertion following playback or not. Simple.

Further, if you have an in point, why not split the region? Command-e will split the region where the insertion is. Then you can get to anywhere in the timeline by pressing asterisk on the num pad, entering the value and pressing enter. When you get to where you want to make the out point, pause the transport, press Option-Tab while holding down the Shift key to select to the previous region boundary (which would be the place where you split the region and that's it. If you need to select across multiple regions, just press those commands multiple times and you should be good.

Slau

[David Eagle]

Brilliant Slau. That works perfectly. Thanks so much for all your help.

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[Poppa Bear]

Waves Tune and Auto Tune, I do not believe that Melodyne is accessible as of yet, but I could be wrong.

[Poppa Bear]

So VO/Space does not work to select the track when you are on it? Do either of you have a control surface?

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Subject: Re: cannot delete audio

[David Eagle]

I use a control surface now and again. But in the main I am working away from a static studio set up, so I'm just using the Mac. I'm not quite sure about the accuracy of selecting audio with the voice-over key and Space bar. It's difficult for me to tell the moment; I've only worked on a couple of projects so far with ProTools 11.

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[Scott Chesworth]

Ooh la la, is that hotspot set specific to Sonar Chris?

[Chris Smart]

i assume so.

[Scott Chesworth]

I Googled instead of being lazy, and nope, turns out it's
accessibility for the standalone editor. Boom!

[David Eagle]

Hotspot clicker is only a Windows thing. It works with JAWS screen reader.

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[Scott Chesworth]

Yep, I know. Chris is a Windows user for now, and I switch back and
forth between Reaper and Pro Tools depending on the project at hand.
Sorry folks, probably should've taken this one off-list as it's
irrelevant to most of you.

[Chris Smart]

awesome.

[Kevin Reeves]

Sometimes, when selecting tracks for editing, if it doesn’t work, toggle the selection of the track by using control p or semi-colon.
This usually happens when a session is first opened. Tracks may be selected for editing, but that doesn’t mean they will work
By reselecting the track, it somehow gets things working again.

Kevin