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jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 9:27:28 AM11/12/19
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I recently contacted Sweetwater about amplitube max. My problem was I thought my plug-ins were not showing up because the button I clicked on only said factory default. After using team viewer, and agent describe to me the screen. When I go down into the plug-in, voiceover is missing the default button that I need to click to bring up the presets. My question is, can I create a Macro using Keyboard Maestro that will put me on that button, or, will flo tools help me with it by creating a plug-in view?  
If I could find a solution for this, all of my IK multimedia plug-ins would be somewhat accessible. Thanks for the help!

Jimmie Smith
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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 12, 2019, 11:44:16 AM11/12/19
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Hi Jimmy,
Either Keyboard Maestro or Flo Tools will indeed help. First, a question: When clicking on that control, does a standard menu open so that you can simply arrow up and down and VoiceOVer speaks the menu items? If so, you're all set. Second, you'll need to place the mouse pointer right on the spot that needs to be clicked and, with Flo Mouse enabled, press Command+Option+Shift+c  to speak and copy to the clipboard the current mouse coordinates. Let's get that far first and we'll take the next steps after that.
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jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 12:05:28 PM11/12/19
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Hi, yes, if my wife clicks on the spot, I can control the menu.

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Nov 12, 2019, 1:18:33 PM11/12/19
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OK, perfect. Put the mouse pointer right over that spot and, with Flo Mouse enabled (Command+forward slash), press the shortcut for speaking and copying the current mouse coordinates to the clipboard. The shortcut is Command Option Shift C. Paste that information here in your email message. Also, with the plug-in loaded, go to the Menu Extras over to the Keyboard Maestro Engine menu and select "Display Plug-in View Template."  In the resulting dialog, copy the text and paste that here as well. We'll create either a macro or Plug-in View easily.
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jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 1:25:05 PM11/12/19
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Hi Slau!  Ready for next step.

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 12, 2019, 1:31:43 PM11/12/19
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Yep, see previous message and paste info in your reply.


jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 4:48:34 PM11/12/19
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Will send when I get home.  Thanks!

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jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 10:11:37 PM11/12/19
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Just to check, my wife put the cursor on the spot that needed to be clicked. Voiceover would not read the menu. It stayed within the plug-in window. I don't know what that means, but it will not read the menu when she clicks it.

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jimmie smith

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Just to check, my wife put the cursor on the spot that I needed to be clicked. Voiceover did not move from the plug-in window, so the menu cannot be read. I do not know what this means, but I hope there is another option.

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 12, 2019, 11:29:56 PM11/12/19
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I don't understand what you mean by VoiceOver not moving from the plug-in window. Is there something you're not communicating? The place you need to click is within the plug-in window, is it not?

jimmie smith

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Nov 12, 2019, 11:47:23 PM11/12/19
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If I load AmpliTube and move to the end of the window, i vo down into the plug in knobs.  The agent from Sweetwater said that it was a picture of an amp. Voiceover will not go low enough to get the button that pulls up the preset browser. When my wife clicked on the button my cursor stays on the knobs and doesn't move to the menu to make selections.

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 13, 2019, 10:07:52 AM11/13/19
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OK, never mind that the VoiceOver cursor stays where it sees the automation parameters. You put the mouse pointer where you'd click and press Command Option Shift C, The coordinates are spoken and copied to the clipboard. This, of course, will only happen if Flo Mouse is enabled with Command Forward Slash. Pase those coordinates here along with the other stuff I detailed.
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Nov 13, 2019, 10:15:27 AM11/13/19
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Will do, thanks!

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jimmie smith

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Nov 13, 2019, 6:44:00 PM11/13/19
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89123

AmpliTube 4
{"view":"Default", "click":[-1,-1], "parameters":[
[
["Master Bypass",0,0],
["Param 1",0,0],
["Param 2",0,0],
["Param 3",0,0],
["Param 4",0,0],
["Param 5",0,0],
["Param 6",0,0],
["Param 7",0,0],
["Param 8",0,0],
["Param 9",0,0],
["Param 10",0,0],
["Param 11",0,0],
["Param 12",0,0],
["Param 13",0,0],
["Param 14",0,0],
["Param 15",0,0],
["Param 16",0,0]
]
]}

Slau Halatyn

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Nov 13, 2019, 7:56:03 PM11/13/19
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Jimmy,
There's something amiss here. When Fo Tools speaks and copies the coordinates, It's formatted with two numbers and a comma between them. The number at the top of your message has no comma. Did you simply paste the contents of the clipboard? Flo Tools wouldn't make a mistake like that. Did you possibly just type the numbers from memory? We need to make sure you have the coordinates correct or else it won't work. LMK


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jimmie smith

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Nov 13, 2019, 11:36:48 PM11/13/19
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Yes, but I will again.

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jimmie smith

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Nov 14, 2019, 1:06:55 PM11/14/19
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I did it again and here are the results:

84,123

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 14, 2019, 2:10:18 PM11/14/19
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Right, this looks correct. First, I'll do a simple plug-in View that'll let you easily get to that button. Stay tuned…


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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 14, 2019, 2:20:27 PM11/14/19
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OK, here's a Plug-in View file:
AmpliTube 4.txt

jimmie smith

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Nov 14, 2019, 6:49:41 PM11/14/19
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I received the plug-in view file. After placing it in the correct location I ran the plug-in. Everything announces like it should but when I click on the preset button with VO space, nothing happens. I don't know if this is something that we are going to be able to fix. Just thought I'd let you know, thanks for all your help. If you have any other suggestions, I would love to hear them.

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OK, here's a Plug-in View file:

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 14, 2019, 8:11:07 PM11/14/19
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Not VO Space. Press VO Shift Space Bar to issue a mouse click.


jimmie smith

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Nov 14, 2019, 9:47:02 PM11/14/19
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Ok, still nothing.  Thanks Slau!

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Not VO Space. Press VO Shift Space Bar to issue a mouse click.


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I received the plug-in view file. After placing it in the correct location I ran the plug-in. Everything announces like it should but when I click on the preset button with VO space, nothing happens. I don't know if this is something that we are going to be able to fix. Just thought I'd let you know, thanks for all your help. If you have any other suggestions, I would love to hear them.

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OK, here's a Plug-in View file:

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Slau Halatyn

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Nov 14, 2019, 11:17:20 PM11/14/19
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OK, try the following:
With Flo Mouse enabled, press Command Option Shift W.
Enter the following:
84,123
and press Return.
Get visual verification that the mouse pointer has in fact moved to the preset button.
This method works for many plug-ins. Providing you were correct in saying that VoiceOver read the menu once the button was clicked, there should be no issue.

jimmie smith

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Nov 15, 2019, 8:55:54 AM11/15/19
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Ok, i got Christie to sit and describe it to me.  She put the mouse in a little square on the screen. When she clicks of the mouse voiceover does not read the menu. But, after trying what you said, the cursor moves to the correct spot. Trying to contact IK multimedia it's like trying to contact the dead. She has help me do some presets, so I will drop them into the dropbox folder this afternoon when I get home.

 
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CHUCK REICHEL

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Nov 15, 2019, 10:04:26 AM11/15/19
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Hi jimmie,

Cool!
Save the presets in to the Pt side and save some time!
I did this with the waves presets way back.
As you modify them just save as and make a folder for your own custom presets!
HtH
Chuck

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"Albert Einstein’

Slau Halatyn

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Nov 15, 2019, 10:48:04 AM11/15/19
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Hi Jimmy,
OK, so you've verified that Flo Mouse is working but the menu, once opened, is not speaking. There's little that you can do except perhaps have your wife select the presets and you can save them individually as Pro Tools presets. I noticed that the parameter names are an unuseful collection of generic names. Beyond calling up presets, you'll be shooting in the dark with those parameters unless you create a reference sheet for yourself. Anyway, good luck.
Slau


jimmie smith

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Nov 15, 2019, 11:20:54 AM11/15/19
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Thanks fr the help.  I also have the slate plug-in bundle. Now that I know how to do the plug-in views, I will try to do some of those as well. I will put all the presets that I make and all of the slate presets that I make into dropbox for everyone to use. Thanks again man appreciate your help.
 
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