PACE Anti-Piracy's response regarding iLok License Manager accessibility

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Slau Halatyn

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I was recently put in touch with the president and vice-president at PACE anti-Piracy, the makers of the iLok key and the iLok License Manager software. Since i made it clear that I wished to share their response with this community, I'm pasting it below. In fact, I'm including my original message as well. I'd normally not send as lengthy an email to a developer but, under the circumstances and, given it's impact, I wanted to give it a little more weight.

You'll notice that the vice-president has responded and they're clearly aware of the issue and have indicated their intention to resolve the problem. You'll notice that in my response I tried to suggest that the project would surely not take as much work as Mr. Kirk has estimated but, even if their estimate turns out to be correct, the fact that they're still willing to fix it is good news. Still, I think they'll ultimately find that it won't be as complicated as it might appear. I do also suspect that the scope of the work as described by Mr. Kirk also includes the necessary work it'll take to migrate to a newer development platform. That was something that Avid experienced as well and is one of the reasons it took so long to get to the point where Avid could begin work on Pro Tools accessibility. Anyway, you'll find the initial message and subsequent responses below.

Best,

Slau


On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Slau Halatyn <sl...@besharpstudios.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Cronce,

My name is Slau Halatyn and I've been an iLok user since 2002 when I made the switch from an analog multitrack to Pro Tools HD. I'm a blind studio owner and trained audio engineer in New York City. When I witnessed the iLok system at work, I was impressed and, at the same time, relieved to not have to deal with challenge/response and registration code nightmares. Everything went quite swimmingly until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

I've been working with many people at avid including Rich Holmes and ed Gray among others regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools. Actually, that work started years before when David Gibbons was still at Digidesign. There were various obstacles to overcome while the company transitioned through several technologies but, with the new release of Pro Tools 11.1, we've seen incredible strides in improved accessibility for blind users. With this comes many new blind users ranging from students all the way to professional audio engineers and studio owners. 

For a time, while Pro Tools was improving in accessibility from version 8 through 10, the use of PACE's iLok.com site was very straight-forward and quite accessible since it was based on html which, if standards were followed, was very easy to use. Unfortunately for blind users, the introduction of the new iLok License Manager saw this accessibility completely wiped out. The application is completely unusable for blind users trying to access the program's features with the built-in screen reader in OS X known as VoiceOver. there is no work-around for the problem and the only way one can deal with licenses is to have a sighted individual perform the tasks instead. With the advent of new Pro Tools accessibility and upgrading to new HDX systems and plug-ins, this affects people like me on a daily basis. I know that others in our community have written for support and have been told that PACE is aware of the issue and I would imagine that it has possibly been brought to your attention.

I'm writing to you to ask that this issue be addressed and resolved as soon as your resources allow. To blind users of iLoks, not having access to the iLok License Manager is the equivalent of sighted users suddenly not having access to their licenses and I'm sure you're no stranger to user complaints when things go wrong. The recent problems that PACE experienced was, I'm sure, stressful and you're probably relieved to have that behind you. Stress, however, is what blind users are experiencing every time a demo license or upgrade comes up. The disappointment at the current state of iLok License Manager accessibility is evident every time a new blind user learns of the issue.

I offer you a fairly simple solution: Apple has some basic programming guidelines for making applications accessible with VoiceOver. Largely, it's a matter of simply defining UI elements. If UI elements are undefined or unlabeled, the user sees nothing in the application apart from the menu bar. If a button is defined as a button, the user sees the button. If that button is unlabeled, well, that's not so great. However, if it's defined as a button and also labeled, the user can perform the default action, interact in whichever way is appropriate and use the UI controls as intended. In most cases, it's a matter of typing a few words per control. Often, Apple's underlying framework takes over at that point and browsing dialogs is already accessible by default. Combo box lists are navigable just as they are anywhere else in the OS. I assure you that a program such as Pro Tools, with its thousands of custom UI elements, is far more complex to make accessible than the iLok License Manager. I've sat at an office in Daly City while a programmer typed a few words, recompiled a Pro Tools beta and, within moments, a new UI element was made accessible. This is not a complicated process by any means and I'm sure that the License Manager could be made accessible within a short amount of time.

Apple's guidelines can be found on their developer site here:

There's a pdf document there which spells out the procedure. This is the only document used by Avid and others when making applications accessible. I urge you to have your programmer(s) take a look at these guidelines and make a plan to incorporate the necessary descriptions into the code of the iLok License Manager so that blind users can access the software alongside our sighted counterparts. Please feel free to discuss this issue with Rich and Ed. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. When you do have a chance to look into it and reply, I'd love to share your response with our community online through our email lists as well as the PT Access blog.

Thanks for taking the time to address this issue which means so much to so many people. It would be greatly appreciated when it can be resolved.

best regards,

Slau Halatyn

BeSharp
Audio recording & Music Production
30-80 33rd Street
Astoria NY 11102


On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Andrew Kirk <And...@paceap.com> wrote:

Hi Slau,

Thank you for your email.

I wanted to let you know that we have received your emails and understand the situation. We too are frustrated that the development tools we are working with do not fully support these things out of the box.  We had our engineering spend time to research this last Autumn and it is going to be a big project to upgrade all of the tools and deal with. Unfortunately it would break some key components by moving forward to that version and cause us to have to rewrite more code.  If it was a few days or a week - it would have been done already but it will be at least a few months of work (when it can be scheduled) and a complete regressive test of the application and all features.

I hope you understand that iLok.com as it was could not be supported. The weekly, sometimes daily, changes in browsers made it nearly impossible for us to keep up. In addition there features and security issues that could not be solved in the browser, hence we moved to the client side model. Largely feedback has been extremely positive. 

For a site that is free to users our resources are, unfortunately, somewhat limited.  We will be looking to when we can move to the newest version of the tools and then take advantage of the features that allow better access.   The code is not and Xcode project it is a cross platform development toolset that is used worldwide.

This topic is discussed at all meetings about iLok License Manager and when we can make such improvements.  Once we are able to make such improvements we will certainly contact you so that you can assist us in being sure that these features fit your needs.

Again, thank you for your email.

Very Best Regards,

Andrew


-- 
Andrew Kirk
Vice President 
PACE Anti-Piracy, Inc
1860 South Bascom Avenue 
Campbell, CA 95008



On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Slau Halatyn <sl...@besharpstudios.com> wrote:

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your response. It's good to know that the issue is on your radar. Being that the license manager is cross-platform, you face very much the same situation Avid did. I look forward to assisting with testing when you do eventually get to that point. Frankly, I believe that the estimate of "months" of work is grossly miscalculated and I hope that doesn't deter your team too long. I'm confident that, once the work does begin, you'll find that it's not at all as complex as you might think. I've witnessed it myself with Avid and I'm sure your experience will be much the same. Thanks again for taking the time to reply and I look forward to working with you.

Best,

Slau

Slau Halatyn


On January 10, 2014, Andrew Kirk wrote:
Hi Slau,

iLok License Manager is made with a tool called Qt (http://qt-project.org) and we must switch to a newer version that came out just when we went to release ILM. There have been some major changes so this is not just one feature but effects the entire application.  I think 2 months is actually an aggressive estimate.  We already spent a man week just looking at it and trying to get a short cut similar to your initial suggestion for allowing voiceover etc..   In our case this is not just using Xcode and Visual Studio - if that were the case - this would be already done.

This is high on our list and we will be in touch. I appreciate your support.

Thank you.

Andrew


Poppa Bear

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Thank you Slau, I shared this with the mag as well because so many of the users over there struggle with the same issue.
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Perhaps also mention that this affects Windows
users as well, and that NVDA is a free
screenreader they can use in their testing on the Windows side.
>of PACE's <http://ilok.com/>iLok.com site was
><https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html>https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html
><<mailto:And...@paceap.com>And...@paceap.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Slau,
>
>Thank you for your email.
>
>I wanted to let you know that we have received
>your emails and understand the situation. We too
>are frustrated that the development tools we are
>working with do not fully support these things
>out of the box. We had our engineering spend
>time to research this last Autumn and it is
>going to be a big project to upgrade all of the
>tools and deal with. Unfortunately it would
>break some key components by moving forward to
>that version and cause us to have to rewrite
>more code. If it was a few days or a week - it
>would have been done already but it will be at
>least a few months of work (when it can be
>scheduled) and a complete regressive test of the application and all features.
>
>I hope you understand that
><http://ilok.com/>iLok.com as it was could not
>web: <http://www.paceap.com/>www.paceap.com and <http://ilok.com/>iLok.com
>
>
>
>On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Slau Halatyn
><<mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>sl...@besharpstudios.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Andrew,
>
>Thanks for your response. It's good to know that
>the issue is on your radar. Being that the
>license manager is cross-platform, you face very
>much the same situation Avid did. I look forward
>to assisting with testing when you do eventually
>get to that point. Frankly, I believe that the
>estimate of "months" of work is grossly
>miscalculated and I hope that doesn't deter your
>team too long. I'm confident that, once the work
>does begin, you'll find that it's not at all as
>complex as you might think. I've witnessed it
>myself with Avid and I'm sure your experience
>will be much the same. Thanks again for taking
>the time to reply and I look forward to working with you.
>
>Best,
>
>Slau
>
>Slau Halatyn
>
>
>On January 10, 2014, Andrew Kirk wrote:
>Hi Slau,
>
>iLok License Manager is made with a tool called
>Qt
>(<http://qt-project.org/>http://qt-project.org)
>and we must switch to a newer version that came
>out just when we went to release ILM. There have
>been some major changes so this is not just one
>feature but effects the entire application. I
>think 2 months is actually an aggressive
>estimate. We already spent a man week just
>looking at it and trying to get a short cut
>similar to your initial suggestion for allowing
>voiceover etc.. In our case this is not just
>using Xcode and Visual Studio - if that were the
>case - this would be already done.
>
>This is high on our list and we will be in touch. I appreciate your support.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Andrew
>
>
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Scott Chesworth

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Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
it can be done.

Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Scott
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Polaris-17

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QT damn shit

Christopher gilland

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wo wo wo! Wait a minute here!

ILM is Ilok Manager? that's the same scheme used by JAWS! JAWS made it
accessible! Granted, they did so without the physical ILok dongle, and
yeah, they only give 5 activations, but! that isn't the point. the point
is, if ILok are the ones who made the ILM scheme, and we got it working
reliably with JFW, who's to say it would be difficult getting it working
elseware for things that need it.

Frankly, I see this as just lame excuse to further delay accessible
development. I'm saying, I see their responses as such. Call me a jack ass
for saying it, but that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

Chris.
>>until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bitĂ¯Â¿Â½

Christopher gilland

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Hello sir, or madam, sorry, not sure which you are.
 
Your comment did absolutely nothing to this thread, and quite frankly, say nothing but ignorance in the field of QT knowledge.  though I don't know much about it myself, I can tell you it's not quote unquote:  damn shit.  It can be, but what thing has potential of being bliss perfect in life?  With the proper tools, one can somewhat easily make qt accessible.  Look at what has been done with QT-Aspi in Linux in combination with the QT Bridge, and with Orca!  Also, just for your knowledge, there are a few QT apps that actually read fairly decently with your object or screen review modes in NVDA.  OK, I'll admit that doesn't really help us on the mac side with Voiceover, nor did I say even on Windows that it was ideal, cause it's not, but! the point being, it is somewhat of a sollution.  You're kind a throwing the chocolate cake to the hungry kid before getting a bite of it yourself, sota speak.
 
Chris.
 
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Slau Halatyn

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Chris,

ILM and iLok License Manager are not the same thing. It's simply a coincidence that the first letters for Pace's software product work out to "ILM" but that's not the official name..

Slau

until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

Christopher gilland

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OK, then, I stand corrected.  My apology.

Chris Smart

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Which means what, in standard English?
>>use of PACE's <http://ilok.com/>iLok.com site
>><https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html>https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html
>><<mailto:And...@paceap.com>And...@paceap.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Slau,
>>
>>Thank you for your email.
>>
>>I wanted to let you know that we have received
>>your emails and understand the situation. We
>>too are frustrated that the development tools
>>we are working with do not fully support these
>>things out of the box. We had our engineering
>>spend time to research this last Autumn and it
>>is going to be a big project to upgrade all of
>>the tools and deal with. Unfortunately it would
>>break some key components by moving forward to
>>that version and cause us to have to rewrite
>>more code. If it was a few days or a week - it
>>would have been done already but it will be at
>>least a few months of work (when it can be
>>scheduled) and a complete regressive test of the application and all features.
>>
>>I hope you understand that
>><http://ilok.com/>iLok.com as it was could not
>>web: <http://www.paceap.com/>www.paceap.com and <http://ilok.com/>iLok.com
>>
>>
>>
>>On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Slau Halatyn
>><<mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>sl...@besharpstudios.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Andrew,
>>
>>Thanks for your response. It's good to know
>>that the issue is on your radar. Being that the
>>license manager is cross-platform, you face
>>very much the same situation Avid did. I look
>>forward to assisting with testing when you do
>>eventually get to that point. Frankly, I
>>believe that the estimate of "months" of work
>>is grossly miscalculated and I hope that
>>doesn't deter your team too long. I'm confident
>>that, once the work does begin, you'll find
>>that it's not at all as complex as you might
>>think. I've witnessed it myself with Avid and
>>I'm sure your experience will be much the same.
>>Thanks again for taking the time to reply and I
>>look forward to working with you.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Slau
>>
>>Slau Halatyn
>>
>>
>>On January 10, 2014, Andrew Kirk wrote:
>>Hi Slau,
>>
>>iLok License Manager is made with a tool called
>>Qt
>>(<http://qt-project.org/>http://qt-project.org)
>>and we must switch to a newer version that came
>>out just when we went to release ILM. There
>>have been some major changes so this is not
>>just one feature but effects the entire
>>application. I think 2 months is actually an
>>aggressive estimate. We already spent a man
>>week just looking at it and trying to get a
>>short cut similar to your initial suggestion
>>for allowing voiceover etc.. In our case this
>>is not just using Xcode and Visual Studio - if
>>that were the case - this would be already done.
>>
>>This is high on our list and we will be in touch. I appreciate your support.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>
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Chris Smart

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Did someone say ILM stands for iLok manager? I've
never seen this written anywhere! Unless you have
proof of that, please don't go writing Pace. LOL
>>>until the iLok License Manager. Please allow me to digress just a bit…

Chris Smart

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Jan 11, 2014, 11:17:39 AM1/11/14
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Thank you for clearing that up!

At 11:33 PM 1/10/2014, you wrote:
>Chris,
>
>ILM and iLok License Manager are not the same
>thing. It's simply a coincidence that the first
>letters for Pace's software product work out to
>"ILM" but that's not the official name..
>
>Slau
>
>On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Christopher
>gilland <<mailto:clgil...@gmail.com>clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>wo wo wo! Wait a minute here!
>>
>>ILM is Ilok Manager? that's the same scheme
>>used by JAWS! JAWS made it
>>accessible! Granted, they did so without the
>>physical ILok dongle, and yeah, they only give
>>5 activations, but! that isn't the point. the
>>point is, if ILok are the ones who made the ILM
>>scheme, and we got it working reliably with
>>JFW, who's to say it would be difficult getting
>>it working elseware for things that need it.
>>
>>Frankly, I see this as just lame excuse to
>>further delay accessible development. I'm
>>saying, I see their responses as such. Call me
>>a jack ass for saying it, but that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
>>
>>Chris.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott
>>Chesworth" <<mailto:scottch...@gmail.com>scottch...@gmail.com>
>>To: <<mailto:ptac...@googlegroups.com>ptac...@googlegroups.com>
>>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: PACE Anti-Piracy's response
>>regarding iLok License Manager accessibility
>>
>>
>>Oh, depending on what version of QT they've used, there hands really
>>could be tied quite tight. That said, I'm pretty sure the iZotope
>>chaps managed to get some semblance of accessibility going pre QT5, so
>>it can be done.
>>
>>Good to know it's on the radar anyway. Thanks for keeping us informed.
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>>><<<mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com><mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>sl...@besharpstudios.com>
>>>><<http://ilok.com/>http://ilok.com/><http://ilok.com/>iLok.com site was
>>>><<https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html>https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html>https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXModel/OSXAXmodel.html
>>>><<<mailto:And...@paceap.com>mailto:And...@paceap.com><mailto:And...@paceap.com>And...@paceap.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Slau,
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for your email.
>>>>
>>>>I wanted to let you know that we have received
>>>>your emails and understand the situation. We too
>>>>are frustrated that the development tools we are
>>>>working with do not fully support these things
>>>>out of the box. We had our engineering spend
>>>>time to research this last Autumn and it is
>>>>going to be a big project to upgrade all of the
>>>>tools and deal with. Unfortunately it would
>>>>break some key components by moving forward to
>>>>that version and cause us to have to rewrite
>>>>more code. If it was a few days or a week - it
>>>>would have been done already but it will be at
>>>>least a few months of work (when it can be
>>>>scheduled) and a complete regressive test of the application and all
>>>>features.
>>>>
>>>>I hope you understand that
>>>><<http://ilok.com/>http://ilok.com/><http://ilok.com/>iLok.com
>>>><<http://www.paceap.com/>http://www.paceap.com/>www.paceap.com
>>>>and <<http://ilok.com/>http://ilok.com/><http://ilok.com/>iLok.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Slau Halatyn
>>>><<<mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com><mailto:sl...@besharpstudios.com>sl...@besharpstudios.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your response. It's good to know that
>>>>the issue is on your radar. Being that the
>>>>license manager is cross-platform, you face very
>>>>much the same situation Avid did. I look forward
>>>>to assisting with testing when you do eventually
>>>>get to that point. Frankly, I believe that the
>>>>estimate of "months" of work is grossly
>>>>miscalculated and I hope that doesn't deter your
>>>>team too long. I'm confident that, once the work
>>>>does begin, you'll find that it's not at all as
>>>>complex as you might think. I've witnessed it
>>>>myself with Avid and I'm sure your experience
>>>>will be much the same. Thanks again for taking
>>>>the time to reply and I look forward to working with you.
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>Slau
>>>>
>>>>Slau Halatyn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On January 10, 2014, Andrew Kirk wrote:
>>>>Hi Slau,
>>>>
>>>>iLok License Manager is made with a tool called
>>>>Qt
>>>>(<<http://qt-project.org/>http://qt-project.org/>http://qt-project.org)
>>>>and we must switch to a newer version that came
>>>>out just when we went to release ILM. There have
>>>>been some major changes so this is not just one
>>>>feature but effects the entire application. I
>>>>think 2 months is actually an aggressive
>>>>estimate. We already spent a man week just
>>>>looking at it and trying to get a short cut
>>>>similar to your initial suggestion for allowing
>>>>voiceover etc.. In our case this is not just
>>>>using Xcode and Visual Studio - if that were the
>>>>case - this would be already done.
>>>>
>>>>This is high on our list and we will be in touch. I appreciate your
>>>>support.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
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matt diemert

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Jan 11, 2014, 11:28:02 AM1/11/14
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This is Correct,
Freedom Scientifics authorization scheme is based on sentinel systems,
which is a service that places a key locally on the computers hard
drive, and in many cases when that crashes and burns as it tends to
do, you need additional authorization. Same scheme that iTunes uses
for the most part.
iLok as it stands is a great solution, recently I had to completely
reinstall the operating system and PT on my mac, and knowing that at
least my license was safe and sound on my iLok was actually a comfort!
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Chris Smart

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Jan 11, 2014, 1:20:48 PM1/11/14
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Sorry, I should have checked the rest of my inbox before posting that.
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