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Christopher Gilland
Oct 25, 2019, 4:07:42 PM10/25/19
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So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against
probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten
themselves in a bit of a mess.
Though people have been warning for now to basically avoid Catalina like
the plague, as plugins often stop working, PT itself isn't certified and
has major issues, heck, not that this is exactly OT, but even Reaper
apparently has major issues and won't run...
Anyway, they upgraded their mac mini 2018 to Catalina. I'm not sure how
much was them not listening, vs. how much was them not seeing the
warnings that have been discussed in various places.
I happened to have an old Mojave installer lying around on my mac from
earlier. So, I managed to use Disk MakerX and create a bootable USB
drive of the Mojave installer, but evidently, it appears to be dammaged.
Of corse, we didn't know this until the phase of reinstallation after
repartitioning their Catalina Macintosh HD, so, basically now, their
drive went to being wiped. I wound up having to do an internet network
install, and get them back on Catalina, so they'd have at least
something usable. All be it, PT is out the question, but at least their
system would boot.
I tried doing command+option+shift+R to get into internet recovery which
would download the version of the OS their system came with originally,
which was Mojave. Unfortunately, this isn't working. When I looked in my
purchase history in the app store, I cannot find Mohave in the history
dating all the way back to 2010, which obviously, Mojave wasn't in
existance at that point, so if I don't see it going that far back, then
we gotta problem.
I checked, but I do not have a Super Duper backup of Mojave. The only
thing I have is one of Sierra 10.12, and another of an early seed 10.15
Catalina beta. I was thinking if I had something, I could just modify it
to their settings after re-imaging it to their drive.
Even if I did this with the Sierra image, it wouldn't help, as 1, the
system is newer than when Sierra was out, and I don't know how backward
compatible that system would be, but more importantly, I can't as the
Mojave installer is apparently gone, and the one I have, says their
system, is dammaged.
I'm perfectly aware of having to go into recovery and disable the
security settings in security manager, so they can install from external
media. I already did that. Stupid T2 chip? I freaking hate that blasted
thing!
I just wonder what the next step's gonna be, since I can't seem to
obtain a Mojave installer which isn't corrupted.
It's so weird! My purchase history shows El Capitan, but not Sierra, not
Mojave, none of that. Why would they have kept El Capitan in there, but
pulled Sierra, and Mojave? Even HI! Sierra's not showing in there even
though I damn well know I downloaded it with my apple ID earlier.
Do we at this point, short of them just waiting for things to become
compatible, have any recorse, or are they basically screwed? I tried to
warn them, but... yeah...
Chris.
probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten
themselves in a bit of a mess.
Though people have been warning for now to basically avoid Catalina like
the plague, as plugins often stop working, PT itself isn't certified and
has major issues, heck, not that this is exactly OT, but even Reaper
apparently has major issues and won't run...
Anyway, they upgraded their mac mini 2018 to Catalina. I'm not sure how
much was them not listening, vs. how much was them not seeing the
warnings that have been discussed in various places.
I happened to have an old Mojave installer lying around on my mac from
earlier. So, I managed to use Disk MakerX and create a bootable USB
drive of the Mojave installer, but evidently, it appears to be dammaged.
Of corse, we didn't know this until the phase of reinstallation after
repartitioning their Catalina Macintosh HD, so, basically now, their
drive went to being wiped. I wound up having to do an internet network
install, and get them back on Catalina, so they'd have at least
something usable. All be it, PT is out the question, but at least their
system would boot.
I tried doing command+option+shift+R to get into internet recovery which
would download the version of the OS their system came with originally,
which was Mojave. Unfortunately, this isn't working. When I looked in my
purchase history in the app store, I cannot find Mohave in the history
dating all the way back to 2010, which obviously, Mojave wasn't in
existance at that point, so if I don't see it going that far back, then
we gotta problem.
I checked, but I do not have a Super Duper backup of Mojave. The only
thing I have is one of Sierra 10.12, and another of an early seed 10.15
Catalina beta. I was thinking if I had something, I could just modify it
to their settings after re-imaging it to their drive.
Even if I did this with the Sierra image, it wouldn't help, as 1, the
system is newer than when Sierra was out, and I don't know how backward
compatible that system would be, but more importantly, I can't as the
Mojave installer is apparently gone, and the one I have, says their
system, is dammaged.
I'm perfectly aware of having to go into recovery and disable the
security settings in security manager, so they can install from external
media. I already did that. Stupid T2 chip? I freaking hate that blasted
thing!
I just wonder what the next step's gonna be, since I can't seem to
obtain a Mojave installer which isn't corrupted.
It's so weird! My purchase history shows El Capitan, but not Sierra, not
Mojave, none of that. Why would they have kept El Capitan in there, but
pulled Sierra, and Mojave? Even HI! Sierra's not showing in there even
though I damn well know I downloaded it with my apple ID earlier.
Do we at this point, short of them just waiting for things to become
compatible, have any recorse, or are they basically screwed? I tried to
warn them, but... yeah...
Chris.
John Gunn
Oct 25, 2019, 4:43:56 PM10/25/19
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Chris,
On the machine all you have to do is do a web search for Mojave installer download that to that machine. The reason your install didn’t work because you installed on your machine if I’m not mistaken. So in a nutshell, just do a search for Mojave installer on that machine and reinstalled and that should work.
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten themselves in a bit of a mess.
>
>
> Though people have been warning for now to basically avoid Catalina like the plague, as plugins often stop working, PT itself isn't certified and has major issues, heck, not that this is exactly OT, but even Reaper apparently has major issues and won't run...
>
>
> Anyway, they upgraded their mac mini 2018 to Catalina. I'm not sure how much was them not listening, vs. how much was them not seeing the warnings that have been discussed in various places.
>
>
> I happened to have an old Mojave installer lying around on my mac from earlier. So, I managed to use Disk MakerX and create a bootable USB drive of the Mojave installer, but evidently, it appears to be dammaged.
>
>
> Of corse, we didn't know this until the phase of reinstallation after repartitioning their Catalina Macintosh HD, so, basically now, their drive went to being wiped. I wound up having to do an internet network install, and get them back on Catalina, so they'd have at least something usable. All be it, PT is out the question, but at least their system would boot.
>
>
> I tried doing command+option+shift+R to get into internet recovery which would download the version of the OS their system came with originally, which was Mojave. Unfortunately, this isn't working. When I looked in my purchase history in the app store, I cannot find Mohave in the history dating all the way back to 2010, which obviously, Mojave wasn't in existance at that point, so if I don't see it going that far back, then we gotta problem.
>
>
> I checked, but I do not have a Super Duper backup of Mojave. The only thing I have is one of Sierra 10.12, and another of an early seed 10.15 So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten themselves in a bit of a mess.
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On the machine all you have to do is do a web search for Mojave installer download that to that machine. The reason your install didn’t work because you installed on your machine if I’m not mistaken. So in a nutshell, just do a search for Mojave installer on that machine and reinstalled and that should work.
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten themselves in a bit of a mess.
>
>
> Though people have been warning for now to basically avoid Catalina like the plague, as plugins often stop working, PT itself isn't certified and has major issues, heck, not that this is exactly OT, but even Reaper apparently has major issues and won't run...
>
>
> Anyway, they upgraded their mac mini 2018 to Catalina. I'm not sure how much was them not listening, vs. how much was them not seeing the warnings that have been discussed in various places.
>
>
> I happened to have an old Mojave installer lying around on my mac from earlier. So, I managed to use Disk MakerX and create a bootable USB drive of the Mojave installer, but evidently, it appears to be dammaged.
>
>
> Of corse, we didn't know this until the phase of reinstallation after repartitioning their Catalina Macintosh HD, so, basically now, their drive went to being wiped. I wound up having to do an internet network install, and get them back on Catalina, so they'd have at least something usable. All be it, PT is out the question, but at least their system would boot.
>
>
> I tried doing command+option+shift+R to get into internet recovery which would download the version of the OS their system came with originally, which was Mojave. Unfortunately, this isn't working. When I looked in my purchase history in the app store, I cannot find Mohave in the history dating all the way back to 2010, which obviously, Mojave wasn't in existance at that point, so if I don't see it going that far back, then we gotta problem.
>
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Christopher Gilland
Oct 25, 2019, 4:52:43 PM10/25/19
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incorrect. We have already tried that. no results whatsoever pop up when doing that search from the app store regardless who's computer I use.
Apple is telling me that Mojave is not even available on their servers any longer. I know this is not true, as, explain this one to me. If that was the case, then why on my friends computer was I able to go into Internet recovery and when they are, after selecting our Internet network, it specifically told me downloading 10.14 Mojave, and there was a progress bar going across the screen, and also an estimated time which kept moving.
The problem is, once it was done downloading, it gave me a screen with the globe and a white triangle inside that globe. Below that, it's simply said support.apple.com and that is as far as it would go. It would not do anything past that.
if truly Mojave was not available on their servers anymore as Apple told me, then why on earth did it fully download evidently from the Internet recovery? That's what doesn't make any sense to me. I'm being told one thing, yet the mat is clearly showing completely different results. just to be completely transparent, this process with Internet recovery was done on his computer not mine. Further, when I searched for Mojave, that also was done on his computer, and even was done under his Apple ID, not mine.
i'm not sure if you sent this to me privately, or if this was sent on the list, but just in case the ladder, this is getting a bit off topic, so going forward, I ask anyone to please respond to me privately if you have any further suggestions.
Chris.
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:43, John Gunn <gu...@tznet.com> wrote:
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> Chris,
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Apple is telling me that Mojave is not even available on their servers any longer. I know this is not true, as, explain this one to me. If that was the case, then why on my friends computer was I able to go into Internet recovery and when they are, after selecting our Internet network, it specifically told me downloading 10.14 Mojave, and there was a progress bar going across the screen, and also an estimated time which kept moving.
The problem is, once it was done downloading, it gave me a screen with the globe and a white triangle inside that globe. Below that, it's simply said support.apple.com and that is as far as it would go. It would not do anything past that.
if truly Mojave was not available on their servers anymore as Apple told me, then why on earth did it fully download evidently from the Internet recovery? That's what doesn't make any sense to me. I'm being told one thing, yet the mat is clearly showing completely different results. just to be completely transparent, this process with Internet recovery was done on his computer not mine. Further, when I searched for Mojave, that also was done on his computer, and even was done under his Apple ID, not mine.
i'm not sure if you sent this to me privately, or if this was sent on the list, but just in case the ladder, this is getting a bit off topic, so going forward, I ask anyone to please respond to me privately if you have any further suggestions.
Chris.
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> Chris,
Michael Holmes
Oct 25, 2019, 5:39:25 PM10/25/19
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I recently wiped my MacBook’s hard drive and started from scratch to have an efficient mobile recording rig. I feel like I had the option to install Sierra through Mojave, though I’m not 100% because Mojave was the latest and what I did. It’s worth looking into, and if I’m right, you could save documents on a drive or the cloud and just blow the rest away.
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:07, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten themselves in a bit of a mess.
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> On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:07, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, I am helping a friend of mine, who admittedly, did something against probably better judgement of listening to advice. Now, he/she has gotten themselves in a bit of a mess.
TheOreoMonster
Oct 25, 2019, 7:13:52 PM10/25/19
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Chris, he said do a web search, not an App Store search. They are still available on apple’s servers and in the App Store you just won’t fine it through a store search. For some reason they stop putting the old versions in your purchases When Sierra came out and thats why el cap is the last one you see there. But a web search should turn them up on apple’s server and then link you to the App Store to download the more recent ones. And Also, MacOS installed l licensed from your account wouldn’t work on his computer unless you were willing to sign in with your Apple ID. Anyways, here is the link you need for Mojave. Download and install from his machine.
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Christopher Gilland
Oct 25, 2019, 10:08:18 PM10/25/19
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oddly enough, I did do a web search through Safari. I didn't just do so through the app store. I did exactly what you had suggested. I went to Google and Safari and did that keyword search. nothing popped up for some reason.
anyway, thank you for the link. it is greatly
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Christopher Gilland
Oct 26, 2019, 10:17:49 AM10/26/19
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We got it taken care of. It definitely was way more complicated than what wound up being suggested here, but, nonetheless, we did get things back up and running, thank God.
Chris.
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