RMS levels

[Steve Sparrow]

Hi. Doing some mastering in protools. Is there any way that we can see rMS levels using PT. From memory i think this was not doable some time back Is this still the case, and If so is there any spluggin or program on mac that will give us this information.

Just to add I’m really impressed with protools 19.6 and the latest Flo tools. I’ve upgraded to mojave and i’d have to say it’s excellent. The i can now run at lower buffer size again when recording with compressors and eq on the tracks. Very nice indeed.
A huge thanks from me to the flo tools team for making this version as accessible as it is.
Cheers Steve

[Michael Holmes]

Hey Steve! Last I knew there was an excellent mastering demo in the PT Access Dropbox by Slau. The R128X GUI.app in the Dropbox is great for checking bounced file LUFS, and the Pro Limiter plugin’s Diff Listen and Input gain controls will let you know what’s peaking above. Also, Nugen Master Check is handy. It’s not completely accessible from what I can figure, but the meter reading the attenuation does read by VO. This is for checking if levels will be attenuated on streaming platforms, so it may not be what you need.

One more option I can think of is an aux routed from the main output bus to an unused bus, with Pro Compressor in RMS mode with limiter settings, and using Flo Tools’ gain reduction meter to check the RMS. it may be a usable workaround.

Hope something here helped!

Best,
Mike

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[Steve Sparrow]

cool what is pro compressor is this a stock plug in protools or third party plug. Sounds like this might work. But i’ve not used pro compressor.
Steve

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[Steve Sparrow]

just to add i’d be very interested in hearing Slau’s mastering demo if it’s available. I’m not on the pt drop box list at present. would it be possible for someone to paste a drop box link in an email?

Steve


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[John Gunn]

Here it is and will keep it in my DropBox for 2 days.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q18oimi7buveu3o/Mastering.m4a?dl=0

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[Steve Sparrow]

Hey John Thanks very much. I’ve got it fine.
That’s great.
.Cheers Steve

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[Michael Holmes]

Hey Steve. The Pro Compressor and Pro Limiter plugins are part of Avid’s Pro Dynamics range. The other two plugins in the range are Pro Expander and Pro Multi-band Dynamics, which are also indispensable. If you can swing it, I highly recommend the Avid Complete Plugin Bundle, which includes these and a lot of additional tools that make a huge difference. The subscription option is super flexible. I do the yearly one for 50 USD. The Multi-band Dynamics also has a Multi-band splitter plugin that works really well in mastering, at the very least allowing monitoring of 4 parametric bands on aux tracks. Indispensable is putting it lightly, and reasonably priced for their utility is an understatement on how worth it these plugins are.

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[Slau Halatyn]

For what it's worth, the bundle is free with Pro Tools as of 2019.6.

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[Michael Holmes]

I forgot about the news about the Pro Bundle being free! I must have been too excited about HEAT being compatible with PT Standard. Thanks Slau! And Steve, all I said before, minus the price!

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[John André Lium-Netland]

Hi,

Soon, AccessiblePeakMeter 3 will be released, it will give you audio feedback for the following meters:
RMS SL/IL
LUFS / EBU ML/SL/IL
Peak and True Peak
Dynamic Range (DR PDR)
DialNorm

and more…

It will also have an option to set a different alarm tone for each meter if you would like to have several active at once.

More info soon.

There is also a handy AccessiblePhaseMeter and AccesibleSpectrumAnalyser available. I’ll post links when the update is released.

Some will not like that you have to set a threshold value for the meter, and adjust it as needed, but I think this is a nice way to work, especially if you have a couple of values you aim for when you master your material. If you for example set one meter to alarm when the True Peak reaches -1dB, a different meter to alarm when your LUFS SL reaches -10 db, a different meter to alarm when your LUFS IL reaches -14dB, and finally a meter to alarm when you reach a Dynamic Range DR at 6dB (these are all example values), you can switch between the meters while working, or have a couple of them active at the same time. You might also have one ready to alarm if you have phase issues, and a spectrum analyser set up to easily swipe through the bands to keep an eye on the tonal balance in your material.

Just some ideas, though.

Best,
John André

[Ricky Prevatte]

That will be excellent John looking forward to this coming out soon!

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