I/O Routing question.

[Ronald Glaser]

Ok I have a question for you all.

I have a guitar amp that can connect via a usb cable to my mac, but what
I need to know is how to set up the routing when I connect this amp to
my mac, also when doing this. I do not hear any sound from my amp
through my monitar speakers, this happens not only I am going to think
in PT but also in other DAWS i have installed on the mac, how would I
unmute the sound for the amp?




Ron.

[Chris Gilland]

First off, you hardly gave us any information to go on. We would need to know what make and model the amp is, and secondly, this is really not a ProTools issue. This is more an issue of user operator meeting to understand how routing works in general.

> On Mar 17, 2023, at 09:51, Ronald Glaser <ronaldj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ok I have a question for you all.

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> I have a guitar amp that can connect via a usb cable to my mac, but what I need to know is how to set up the routing when I connect this amp to my mac, also when doing this. I do not hear any sound from my amp through my monitar speakers, this happens not only I am going to think in PT but also in other DAWS i have installed on the mac, how would I unmute the sound for the amp?
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> Ron.
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[Steve Martin]

If you want to use the amp for input but monitor through your studio monitors, you will need to set the amp as the input device and the audio interface that the monitors are plugged into as your output device. I don’t remember if PT allows you to set a different input device and output device or if you will need to create an aggregate device to do this. However if you set your amp as the input and output device, you can just plug headphones into the amp (if it has a headphone jack) to monitor pro tools. Otherwise if the amp doesn’t have an headphone jack it will. Then probably all come out the amp’s speaker in which case I imagine headphones will sound better.

[Ronald Glaser]

Ok, from what I know i did set the amp to the recording source,within
the playback engine dialog, the amp is a boss Katana MK2 100 watt,
protools latest version mac mini all up to date.
I ssuspect that I will need to go into the audio/midi IO dialog and
creat a device and see if this can be unmuted, I could use the speaker
in the amp but I thought it would be more prefered to monitar with in
protools itself.

[Chris Gilland]

Ron,

Did you remember to arm the track? It's not going to just naturally let you hear it within Pro Tools, unless you have an audio track which is either armed or input monitor enabled.

Go look at chapter 5 of the PT Access guide. It will be very beneficial. All of this is covered.

You do not need to create an aggrigate device to make this work. You can, but it isn't necessary. For what you're wanting, if you only just wanna monitor through PT, that would be a bit overkill.

Chris.

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[Rocco Fiorentino]

Hi Ron,

Thank you for the question. I’ve never used that particular amp before, I’ll try and look up the user manual and see what it’s specifics are. But generally, you want to use your main interface as your playback engine, and use other devices that you need input/output from, such as your amp, as either aux IO devices in Pro Tools, or by creating an aggregate device, as pro tools DOES NOT allow you to set separate inputs and outputs as your playback engine. It’s a little odd to me that the amp is muting itself when you plug it into USB, but my guess is that it’s routing it’s output to the USB interface. As I said earlier I’ll try to look into it later and check. But for now, I’d try either making an aux IO with your amp’s input and setting your playback engine to your interface/studio monitors, or, creating an aggregate device with your amp and interface and setting that as your playback engine. Let me know if any of this doesn’t make sense.

Best,

Rocco

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[Chris Gilland]

I agree with Rocco, the fact it isn't letting you hear when plugged in via USB is odd.

Can you hear the amp in general when you plug it in via USB if you don't even open up Pro Tools? If so, then we can narrow down it's something in P T. But my guess is, if this is happening in P T, with the way you're describing things, I'll almost guarantee you're not gonna hear it even if Pro Tools isn't running/launched. At which case, this isn't a PT issue at all. It's an issue with configuration of the amp, which it sounds like Rocco is saying as well as myself. I've never seen an amp that just outright by default quit audibly working through its internal speaker just because you plugged it in via USB. I'm not saying there aren't maybe settings to make it do as you describe, but they wouldn't be generally speaking the default setting.

I truly truly think you need to go back and look at both chapter 3, and chapter 5 cover to cover. Then, ask questions... specific, key word, questions, if you still are stuck.

This is a routing issue, I almost can guarantee it, not a PT issue. I'm willing though to stand corrected.

Chris.

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[Rocco Fiorentino]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to take a moment to remind us all that we come from different backgrounds and levels of expertise. It's important to keep an open mind and be respectful of each other's knowledge and opinions.

Sometimes, the tone we use can come across as condescending or dismissive, which can be discouraging for others who are trying to learn and contribute. Let's try to avoid making assumptions or jumping to conclusions, and instead approach discussions with curiosity and a willingness to learn.

Remember, we're all in this together and trying to create something helpful and informative. Let's work towards building a supportive and positive environment where everyone feels welcome to participate.

Thanks for being part of the group!

Best,

Rocco

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[Chris Gilland]

Rocco,

Can you do me a favor?

I need a little help, and someone said you'd probably be the best to answer my question.

I can't figure out on my mac how to extract your e-mail though.

Can you please write me privately off list?

clgil...@gmail.com

Thanks much.

Chris.

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[Rocco Fiorentino]

Ok, so just glancing at the user manual, I found this:
* The signal from the USB port is output through the LINE OUT jack and the PHONES/REC OUT jack. This signal is not output from the speakers.

So, this is presumably why you can’t hear anything when you plug in the USB. Try the things I mentioned below and let us know how it goes :)

Best,
Rocco

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[Chris Gilland]

By the way,

I'm quite sure this message was directed at me indirectly.

I want to be very clear. I was not in any way, form, shape, nor respect meaning to come off as belittling or such.

I'm not going to say a lot here, as I do not wish to divulge personal information or invade someone's privacy, but you all probably didn't know this, but Ronald and myself live in the same house and are family. I practically live with him around the clock 24/7. So, I know a bit of inside behind the scene how his mind works, and what teaching styles work and don't work with him.

My directness and tone has absolutely nothing to do with me intentionally or there not being better than thou or anything.

Like others, I had to start somewhere too. This is why I suggested to ronald to look at chapters 3 and chapters 5 of the PT Access guide.

I'm not honestly entirely sure how me saying that came off as disrespectful or belittling etcetera.

In his initial message, Ronald said he was having issues routing with his amp. When I said first off, you gave us hardly any info to go on, that wasn't meant to come across as, you stupid idiot, you hardly told us anything. Ronald is very intelligent, and so are many others on this list. Hell! I'm quite confident there are many on this list who know way way way wayyyy! more than I do!

My point is, I was simply making true fact. When you don't provide crutial information like what amp in this case you're using, it makes it very difficult to trouble shoot the problem, when we don't know specifically what hardware one is working with. That's literally all I meant. It would be like someone saying, how can I make this beverage sweeter, and that's all they tell you. Better yet, how can I make this dish sweeter? Yet, we don't know what the dish is.

Well, add some chocolate syrip to it. Well, that would be real tasty if it was a ceasar salad with bausomic vinnagrette dressing already on it. Youzers! That nearly makes me herl just thinking about the combination. LOL!

Point is, how can I help you, when you haven't even given me much any data to go on.

Now if you said, I'm making some cookies, but they don't taste sweet enough, then, ok, now I have something to go on and to fundamentally build from.

Sorry for the long message, but I had to say something, as though it wasn't said directly, I guarantee Rocco was probably trying indirectly to hint to my message. Please understand in my defense where I was coming from here. Don't take it so personally.

Enough said. I'm done with this thread.

Chris.

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[Ricky Prevatte]

Ronald, this is a bit off-topic but have you used the app to edit this amplifier?

I’m thinking of buying the boss and I just wondered how accessible it was from the computer. Glad I saw this post.

Ricky Prevatte

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By the way,

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[Steve Martin]

This is notes copied from the Logic Accessibility google groups mailing list where this came up This is edited for informational purposes. 

Hardware/Equipment Needed 

 Boss Katana MK I or MKII . 

XSonic AirStep Katana.  

  The AirStep Kat is available through Amazon for $114.

You can purchase it directly from the company here who currently has a holiday sale running and has other coupons and offers throughout the year so price compare with amazon.

https://xsonicaudio.com/pages/airstepkatedition

 Software Needed

The Katana Librarian iOS app which is $12.95 to unlock all of it’s features.  

 

The Katana Librarian App is not by SSonic (the manufacturer of the AirStep Kat),, but a 3RD-party developer.  It appears that XSonic decided to support both the Boss Tone Studio for Katana & this 3RD-party app.  They actually state in the documentation that the Katana Librarian app is much more robust than the boss offering.

It, totally, unlocks all the features in the amp, including hidden amps & effects.  Haven’t ran in to any parts of the app that aren’t accessible.

In case anyone is interested some more info on XSonic:

XSonic makes a series of full featured MIDI foot switches that are very flexible in their programing and the XSonic iOS app to program them looks quite accessible. The XSonic AirStep Kat is made to work specifically with the Boss Katana amps and thus should save you some programing time and just work out of the box So with an AirStep Kat, the Katana Librarian app and a Boss Katana amp of your choosing you should have a pretty accessible rig!. 

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