Asking for responses to a semi-negative reaction to PSYCH-K®

[Bill Schwarz]

Hello, all!

I started a PSYCH-K® blog (http://vancouver-psych-k.blogspot.com/) a
while back to help spread the word on the subject and also to help
people here in the Vancouver area find me if they happen to be looking
for a local facilitator.

A few days ago somebody posted the following comment on my blog. It's
similar to things some people have said to me in person when I told
them about PSYCH-K®. I'm sure most of you have heard or read opinions
like this. I'm posting it here hoping that some of you will have some
good responses to it. With your permissions, I'll put your messages
in my blog after this person's comments.

I'll write one of my own as well after I've thought about it a bit
longer.

Anyway, here it is:

Hi Bill

OK, Psych-K works. Lots of people say so.

I am a survivor of terminal cancer and a number of near

death experiences have given me a new perspective on

life. I am brilliantly happy to be alive and hopelessly

hopeful for the future.

Psych-K interests me because I would like to compare

it to what has made the profound changes in my

perception of life. It seems it will be a long time before I

learn anything about Psych-K, however, because one

must attend workshops to learn the "details" and I have

neither the money (on disability pension with a young

family), the immune system (I do not have an immune

system and must be extraordinarily careful in public) or

the energy (I am mostly bedridden). Pretty much all my

information comes from reading and it seems Psych-K

cannot be learned from reading. Hmmmmmm.

I am somewhat suspicious of Psych-K being primarily a

new age money making scheme because I must attend

workshops which cost much more than a book. Oh well.

Maybe in another life.

There is never enough good work in the world so if a

few people make a few bucks spreading beliefs which

are balanced and empowering and promote peace and

love, who am I to argue?

All the best.

[ELIZABETH POWERS]

Hi Bill,

I appreciate the comments of the person who wrote on the blog. It
must be frustrating being in that situation and unable to attend.

Rob, the founder of PSYCH-K has always held that PSYCH-K needs to be
taught in person and in a classroom. Rob views the transmission of
this information as sacred. He is very concerned that the
transmission of PSYCH-K remains pure. This is why all of his
instructors must go through a rigorous training to make sure that
PSYCH-K is communicated clearly so that its original transmission is
kept.

In a workshop situation, the instructor can answer questions and also
watch how each student is doing the process to assure that both the
understanding of the process and implementation of it are correct and
true to the original form. PSYCH-K is so much more than a
technique. It is a process that he feels strongly can only be
conveyed properly through direct contact. He feels guided to have it
implemented in this way and keeping PSYCH-K pure is essential so that
its power is maintained.

I hope this helps with the understanding. I know it can be
frustrating for folks who can not attend directly due to
circumstances such as described below.

Warmly,

Elizabeth Powers
Certified PSYCH-K Instructor

[FeltonBill]

and for me..If I lived in the town where this bedridden person was?
and she was open to it? I would for 'free' do a session with her.
If the superconscious gave her the go ahead to get better with her
ailments through psych-k..how powerful would that blog be then?
Psych-k is a gift to be given first and foremost, business comes
2nd..but then thats just my opinion.
Bill

On Aug 11, 4:46 am, ELIZABETH POWERS

[Deanna Kayyali]

Just a quick thought. We are all energy and we are learning to "speak"
energy. In my opinion, we never help someone for "free". If they can
contribute $5.00, $10 or whatever they can to send a message to the universe
that "I am vested in getting well" "I value others as I can value myself".
Maybe nominal amounts of money may sound silly but boy the energetic message
to both parties is HUGE.
Regards, Deanna Kayyali

[Bill Schwarz]

Thanks to you all!

Elizabeth, I hope you don't mind if I post your comment to my blog.

FeltonBill, you made a GREAT suggestion. I'll write to her (or him,
the comment doesn't state the gender of its author) and ask where she/
he lives.

Deanna, the facilitator I went to before I got my training would agree
with you. She said that when she was working with someone who was
absolutely broke she would ask that person to go out and find a nice
looking stone and give it to her. There had to be some kind of
payment, even if it was a tiny one.

Thanks again!

Bill

[Frank Trupiano]

Dear Bill:   I must say I am somewhat sympathetic with the somebody who made the semi-negative reaction to psych-k on your blog.   As a therapist who uses psych-k, I am very gratful for Rob William's contribution to helping humanity.  It's a marvelous technique.   But if I may be semi-negative for a moment, I believe Rob Williams was first a buisness man before he discovered psych-k.   And like any business man, he knows how to make a buck.    Have you noticed the psych-k trademark?  That's making sure no body can steal his intellectural property.  And how about those yearly subcriptions you can buy so you can use the psych-k logo and brouchure.   That's just plan smart business; a way of making residual income. Ask any one who knows about making money, and they will tell  you that residual income is the way to go.   Now don't get me wrong, that's his right,; let's face it, he made the intuitive leap and created psych-k--not me or you or some smuk who writes on your blog. And believe me, there's nothing wrong with making a buck.  I think of myself as a business man my self.   However, my only concern, is that his business plan is bit too controlling..   There's really not enough educational literaure on it. I think also he should loosen up on his requirements for those who would like to  teach it.  This idea that one has to sponsor workshops and buy a certain number of his tradmark materials is very limiting--and to me is about a buisness plan, plain and simple.  I don't see anything spiritual about this..   The world needs to know about psych-k; it has the potential to change people's lives. I believe that the way psych-k is presently being marketed is holding it back    Sincerely,   Frank A. Trupiano, LCSW   ps: Maybe we should have a town hall meeting.                           --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Bill Schwarz <wllm....@gmail.com> wrote:

the energy (I am mostly bedridden).. Pretty much all my

[Bill Schwarz]

Frank,

I feel like a bit of a coward, but I don't think I'll be putting your
comment on my blog.

My own feeling is that workshops aren't the ONLY way to learn PSYCH-
K®, but they are by far the BEST way to learn it.

I wonder just how much of a cash cow these workshops are for Rob.
When I check out the schedules it doesn't look like they're really all
that frequent. And aren't the instructors at these workshops the ones
who get the money for them (or at least most of it?)? And there
doesn't seem to be a huge number of people subscribing to the psych-
k.org site. If Rob wants to really make money from people learning
PSYCH-K®, it seems to me that he could do so by marketing lots of
books and DVDs and whatnot through hard sell websites and
infomercials. I know that there IS a book and a DVD available, but
they're both pretty low profile and not very easy to find. This isn't
meant as a defense or criticism - I'm just wondering.

This whole thing is built on an honor system. I'm sure just about
every facilitator who hasn't been trained as an instructor has been
asked by friends and relatives to teach PSYCH-K® to them. One of my
best friendships was really strained when I said no to this request.

PSYCH-K® facilitators are only human, and I bet some of them actually
ARE giving lessons to their friends in spite of what they've been
told. They may be saving their friends a few bucks, but they aren't
getting them trained as well as they could be.

I didn't want to open a can of worms with my original post. I was
just looking for a way to reply to (and possibly help) a sick person
who I've never met.

By the way, visits to my blog ( http://vancouver-psych-k.blogspot.com/)
have increased quite a bit since I first mentioned it here. I think
it's because some of you folks have checked it out. I invite you to
please return to it now and then and possibly provide feedback and
criticism, just to keep me on track and to make sure people get the
straight goods when they read it. I just request that you restrict
your stronger views to this forum instead of my blog (and I'll do the
same).

[Frank Trupiano]

You make some good points which I can agree with.  The main point I was trying to make is that Psych-k is under utilized by many people becasue they don't know about it.   Having more literature,, DVDs, etc,. would help  promote it.  In lieu of that, I was glad to hear that a new workshop for medical practitioners is starting. up.    By the way, I wouldn't think of you as a coward for not putting me on your blog. I might not put my comment on it either.    Have a nice day.   Sincerely,   Frank

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Bill Schwarz <wllm....@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Deano]

Hi. I have only recently attended the basic workshop.

I found out about psych-k from youtube. And after studying the clips
and taking notes, i taught myself somewhat how to at least do one of
the techniques. However, after attending the 2day workshop, i can see
why it isn't in a book. You really need the workshop environment to
grasp and put into practice what is being taught. And a trained
instructer makes a huge difference. I believe personally, if it was
sold as a book, and dvd, the effectiveness and reputation of this
incredible modality would be diluted and less ppl would benifit from
it. It is a slow climb to get this out to the world, but it is at
least keeping it effective. I mean just imagine if thousands of ppl
tried to learn it from a book and practice on their friends and they
dont' get results. Every time you mentioned PSYCH-K to someone, they
would say "oh yeah i've tried that, it doesn't work".

Just my opinion.

D

[Leigh]

Good day, I am responding to your query because I have had a number of
people (I live in a small community) ask similar questions. It is
interesting how fees always seem to come up, yet the same people
requesting the learning for free, or less expensive can find money for
other "new age" medications or modalities. I have found that within
ourselves, if we are looking and find an answer to what we are looking
for, like PSYCH-K, we put up some of the blocks that PSYCH-K helps
change by bringing in the money quotient.
What if someone asks this question about workshops, well they have
made a first step. One could ask where they are, maybe do some muscle
testing if this is right for them? If the facilitator has done the
advanced class can they spend a momet in surrogation to balance
anything for this person?
If one reads the Statement of Principles, Available to anyone from
http://www.windhorseawareness.com/psych-k.html website it helps put
things in order.
As to the teaching, I feel, as a facilitator in several modalities
including advanced PSYCH-K and PER-K, that it is good to keep the
fundamentals clean. It would be very difficult to teach only through
video or books as each individual already has all of their own biasis
and concious/subconcios beliefs that may hinder the movement and
growth and beauty that occurs in a group, societal setting such as the
workshops.
One should acknowledge I think that all of paths are the right ones. I
do not have a surplus of money, but when needed the money shows up,
especially if I prioritise right.
I have to look at myself and see if I am attracting people who ask
these questions to resolve them for myself? Quite often yes. Be clear
on what you are offering perhaps?
I met Rob Williams in California. I appreciated his devotion to what
he was striving for which more than anything I believe was a healthy
world community. I speak several languages and to me not following his
procedure as he has chosen is sort of like badly translating something
important, it can be unhealthy for all sides in the discussion.
Send him an email, he is human, and can respond. Send the question to
Larry Valmore. This is how a community learns, grows and expands.
Participating in change is healthy, not participating in this change
is sad.
I am very glad you brought this up and thank you for allowing me to
share a few thoughts.
Leigh Cassidy

[Bill Schwarz]

Deano and Leigh,

Thank you both for your input. I hope you don't mind if I post both
of them on my blog (using just your first names).

I initially asked for help to respond to somebody else's comment and
at the same time managed to gain some new insights for myself thanks
to what everybody has written here.

Leigh, what you wrote about using a lack of money as a barrier was
exactly what I personally needed to read today.

Thanks again to everyone!