Beingthat the last day of 2020 today, this is my last post of the 2020 year. I have grown alot on the MRR forums since I joined in March of 2020 this year, and hope to accomplish more in the hobby next year in 2021, into this current decade and beyond.
This coming year in May of 2021, it will be the 20th anniversry of when the classic train simulator game, being Microsoft Train Simulator, would have been released in May of 2001 twenty years ago. I first bought the game with my own saved up allowance in the mid-2000s turning my time in middle school.
My favourite route featured ingame was Marias Pass in Montana featuring the BNSF railroad. I developed a facinaton with the BNSF and the Dash 9 locomotive, as I like mountain railroading in North America with the endless pines, forests and mountain scenery. The orange livery on the BNSF dash 9s even reminds me of the orange crush pop soda I enjoy drinking. I intend to get the game again once I get a gaming PC, a I long to play the default version again.
I had the idea of recreating the freight consist In HO or N scale with the same locomotives and freight cars used by BNSF as seen in the default verison of the game which takes place on the Marias pass route set in 2000 and 2001 before the swoosh logo came into use by BNSF. Because of the outdated, crude graphics with some unreadable blurred lettering its hard to make out which kinds of freight cars are which, expecally the boxcars as I cant tell if they are high cubes or not. I would like the help of the BNSF railroad fans and others to help find out the types, lengths, real life railcar manufacturer, etc of the various freight cars featured ingame These screenshots where from the youtuber "Little Pimpf," gameplay of MSTS 2001 with HD graphics.
Please answer which freight cars typen length etc, in the same order as the screenshots I have posted below.
No.#1. BNSF Dash 9 with 48' container length capacity well cars. I love the simplistic look of the blue and pinkish red containers.
No.#2. ICC Burlington Northern Caboose with painted over windows (not sure why). I preordered the version Athearn is releasing in 2021 in their genesis line. I dont plan to paint over the windows.
Those windows on the caboose weren;t painted over, they were plated over with steel plates. Because by the time the caboose was starting to disappear, hooligans were throwing rocks and even shooting at them. Replacing the old glass with something up to the new standards like Lexan was expensive, so any windows not really needed got plated over instead.
As for running the program - something from 20 years ago that needed a decent video card to play will probably run fine on the integrated graphics, or certainly nothing fancy or even close to high end, today. Back when Crysis came out, not even the most expensive video card on the market could run it a max details and get a good framerate. Today, it's being dropped as a benchmark because nearly anything can run it well. 20 years is a long time in the computer world.
Seriously, don't try too think too hard about "matching exact models" here, since the simulator just has a few generic models and basic shapes, just "skinned" with different graphics, some better than others.
Generic and seriously a rather terrible rendition of a well car, and the containers aren't even graphically positioned properly either, since you can see them over the trucks. The whole point of the well car design is to hold the containers as low to the rails (between the trucks) as possible due to the extreme height of stacked containers. Hard fail.
As others stated, the windows were basically removed/plated over to remove a maintenance item/thing that can get broken on a caboose that's basically only used as a shoving platform anymore. This is actually a pretty good graphics skin.
The texture graphic looks like an FMC built car. I think LBF made a version of this car, and I think Intermountain has re-released the old LBF model in their "Value" line... at any rate Intermountain has a chip car that will work. Walthers has (or has produced in the past) a chip car that is a Thrall or Gunderson version, and this would work too - pretty sure BN had some of those too.
Crappy (it's really bad you guys) custom skin job pasting the photo of probably a Trinity center flow type hopper onto a square body of an older design. No telling from this image what the original 3-D model shape and size was really intended to be.
The photographic skin at least would be from a series of Thrall-built 60' bulkhead flatcars. (Try to use that proper term "bulkhead end" not "bulkend". A "bulkhead" is an actual structural thing. A "bulkend" is not a word.)
BNFE reporting marks was basically "Burlington Northern Fruit Express". They were used pretty exclusively on refrigerator cars. Note the vents/louvers/grills/cut out sections on the sides on one end of the car for the mechanical refrigeration unit.
Pretty much same as #3. Low res skin on generic tank shape. Note that any railroad marked tanks like this are pretty exclusively in internal company service usually for diesel fuel. Due to the extremely speciality of tank cars, railroads did not supply them the shipper. Shippers owned or leased their own cars. (Mostly leased (long or short term) from the major leasing and rental companies like UTLX, GATX, etc.)
Probably a 50' car. Hard to tell from this angle which series they chose to create this skin from, but it's probably one there's not an exact model for. But there are models out there in similar red ATSF colours. (ATSF used these colours on MANY series of cars; basically anything that had a cushioned underframe got the red paint and "Shock Control" lettering.
Also, if you're really interested in the actual BNSF Marias Pass, and what ran over it, I'd suggest doing your research on YouTube videos of the actual trains at various locations on that line - not what someone putting a scenario together in MSTS thinks was running there. That person MAY have done their own research, or they just threw all the available BN,BNSF, and ATSF assets they could find at it to make a "BNSF manifest freight"...
However, I am also getting a sense of a lot of scattered interests from your posts; so perhaps my answer is actually the same thing: just throw a bunch of BNSF cars together. Don't overthink it, because the MSTS route designer probably didn't either...
cv_acrAlso, if you're really interested in the actual BNSF Marias Pass, and what ran over it, I'd suggest doing your research on YouTube videos of the actual trains at various locations on that line - not what someone putting a scenario together in MSTS thinks was running there. That person MAY have done their own research, or they just threw all the available BN,BNSF, and ATSF assets they could find at it to make a "BNSF manifest freight"...
cv_acrHowever, I am also getting a sense of a lot of scattered interests from your posts; so perhaps my answer is actually the same thing: just throw a bunch of BNSF cars together. Don't overthink it, because the MSTS route designer probably didn't either...
A 'real' train simulator has a complete cab, with all the fittings, and flat screens where all the windows are. The instruments and controls are exact, 1:1 scale replicas of the ones on the loco sitting on the ready track. It, too, costs several megabucks.
I suspect that Microsoft's management decided that this isn't the time to use finite resources to satisfy niche markets. While I haven't heard about massive layoffs there, I'm willing to wager that the main focus is on producing things that will sell immediately, for enough to cover their development costs. Oddball aps that fall under the heading of luxury products don't meet that standard.
If there is one thing businesses know how to do to keep alive, it is to follow money trails. Money to develop new directions to keep them vital and competitive, and money from sales for recapitalizations and general cash flow for operations. In this case, the decision obviously was to go for the surest bets to keep risks low, and to ensure cash flow. The larger revenue-yielding measures are going to get the nods these days, while the small maket of train-sims retailing for a few tens of dollars just doesn't measure up.
the new microsoft train simulator -----microsoft train simulator 2 due out this holliday 2009 will no longer be developed as microsoft are working on other projects/programs the latest can be found at www.tsinsider.com.what are your thoughts on this subject?please post them .
MS has only released (2001) one version of Train Simulator so far. I did come across something about a 2004 version to be released. I just got this cool sim which is version 1.2 out of the box. MS offers a 1.4 update, along with another update that fixes who know what. MS also offers for download two additional train content updates.
I never used it but if you go into the main folder (root folder) you should find an exe. that looks like the NoCD that you just downloaded.
Replace it (save the original) and see if that works.
Isn't there a read-me with it.
I don't have ( or want WinRar) so I can't open it.
I just use WinZip.
I would really like this No CD file but do I really have to pay $5 to get it? Cant someone just give me a link? I bouht the program for 45 long ago but the CD is at home and I am traveling on business. The above link is not working. A little help please? Thank you very much.
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