Microsoft announced new useful plugins on JQuery - what about prototype?

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buda

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Oct 5, 2010, 10:14:04 AM10/5/10
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Richard Quadling

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So I've backed the wrong horse. Again!

I'm glad I'm not a gambling man.

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buda

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Oct 5, 2010, 10:52:16 AM10/5/10
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jQuery is developing very quickly. Unfortunately it must be noted that
this development forced to move to jQuery although I prefer the
prototype.

On 5 окт, 17:14, buda <www...@pochta.ru> wrote:
> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2010/10/04/jquery-templates-da...

buda

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T.J. Crowder

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Hi,

Well, Prototype's had templates for years:
http://api.prototypejs.org/language/template/

It's true, though, jQuery is seeing a lot of investment and interest.
These three Microsoft plugins themselves aren't all that much to write
home about (though the globalization is exciting), but the _fact_ of
them coming on the heels of Microsoft's recently re-upping their
commitment to jQuery is significant.
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buda

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Oct 5, 2010, 1:03:56 PM10/5/10
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Well, one can not give up! Prototypes are quite mature and a good
library should only create as Microsoft sites such miniprojects here
and the whole community to develop them, and we will long stand in the
place!

Alex McAuley

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I dont know whether to be happy or sad that Microsoft are adding things to
jQuery... They have a tendancy to mess things up on a grand scale!


Alex Mcauley
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JQuery - what about prototype?


Hi,

Well, Prototype's had templates for years:
http://api.prototypejs.org/language/template/

It's true, though, jQuery is seeing a lot of investment and interest.
These three Microsoft plugins themselves aren't all that much to write
home about (though the globalization is exciting), but the _fact_ of
them coming on the heels of Microsoft's recently re-upping their
commitment to jQuery is significant.
--
T.J. Crowder
Independent Software Engineer
tj / crowder software / com
www / crowder software / com

On Oct 5, 3:52 pm, buda <www...@pochta.ru> wrote:
> jQuery is developing very quickly. Unfortunately it must be noted that
> this development forced to move to jQuery although I prefer the
> prototype.
>

> On 5 О©╫О©╫О©╫, 17:14, buda <www...@pochta.ru> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2010/10/04/jquery-templates-da...
>
> > This is very useful - this must be in prototype too!

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buda

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Oct 5, 2010, 7:31:58 PM10/5/10
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But many developers needs in such extensions on prototype and in big
amount of ready to use gadgets like in jQuery
I realize that jQuery has alot of problrms and not such grained like
prototype but such Microsofts tensions will lead many developers to
jQuery (((

On 5 окт, 23:39, "Alex McAuley" <webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com>
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> I dont know whether to be happy or sad that Microsoft are adding things to
> jQuery... They have a tendancy to mess things up on a grand scale!
>
> Alex Mcauleyhttp://www.thevacancymarket.com
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "T.J. Crowder" <t...@crowdersoftware.com>
> To: "Prototype & script.aculo.us" <prototype-s...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:54 PM
> Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Microsoft announced new useful plugins on
>
> JQuery - what about prototype?
>
> Hi,
>
> Well, Prototype's had templates for years:http://api.prototypejs.org/language/template/
>
> It's true, though, jQuery is seeing a lot of investment and interest.
> These three Microsoft plugins themselves aren't all that much to write
> home about (though the globalization is exciting), but the _fact_ of
> them coming on the heels of Microsoft's recently re-upping their
> commitment to jQuery is significant.
> --
> T.J. Crowder
> Independent Software Engineer
> tj / crowder software / com
> www / crowder software / com
>
> On Oct 5, 3:52 pm, buda <www...@pochta.ru> wrote:
> > jQuery is developing very quickly. Unfortunately it must be noted that
> > this development forced to move to jQuery although I prefer the
> > prototype.
>

Walter Lee Davis

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Oct 5, 2010, 9:41:01 PM10/5/10
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It's a big scary ocean (JavaScript) and many many boats (Prototype,
jQuery, EXT, Moo, YUI, I forget about a dozen more). Use what works
for you, and let the competition between the various kits give rise to
solutions you can use. Or write some extensions to Prototype to do the
things you need.

Walter

Tobie Langel

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Oct 6, 2010, 10:37:51 AM10/6/10
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Hey folks.

You'll be happy to notice that thanks to the work I did a couple of
weeks ago[1], the globalization plugin is also available _from the
same repo_ without any dependency on jQuery[2].

Dave Reed[3], the project lead for MS, is a great guy and was very
helpful with the process (he actually extracted some of the logic
himself).

If anyone's interested in using the other announced plugin and willing
to spend some time making them framework agnostic, I'm sure he'll be
there to help.

This is OSS, folks, if you need something, quit complaining and do
something about it. :)

All the best,

Tobie

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[1] http://github.com/jquery/jquery-global/commits/master
[2] http://github.com/jquery/jquery-global/blob/master/globalization.js
[3] InfinitiesLoop on Twitter and GitHub.

Phil Petree

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Oct 6, 2010, 10:47:22 AM10/6/10
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Jquery is succeeding because they are building a consolidated (all-in-one-place) community with forums for dicussions of varied topics, a single place to download "plugins" etc.
 
Prototype may be the better framework but "he with the larger community will ultimately prevail" and this is a lesson that microsoft has learned, taught, forgotten and had to learn again.
I'm just sayin...
2010/10/5 Walter Lee Davis <wa...@wdstudio.com>

buda

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T.J. Crowder

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Tobie,

> You'll be happy to notice that thanks to the work I did a couple of
> weeks ago[1], the globalization plugin is also available _from the
> same repo_ without any dependency on jQuery[2].

Props, man! Nice one.

-- T.J. :-)
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