Trimble Tsc7 User Manual

[Aimon Jardine]

Ifyou wish to make data files available to any controller connecting to the project without creating jobs it is possible to upload the files as project reference files using the Trimble Sync Manger desktop application.

It is possible to install Trimble Access 2017 on the TSC7. Trimble Access 2017 continues to use AccessSync which is closer to the file synchronization you describe. Trimble Connect Sync would be used in the office to synchronize the files.

If the file has an extension which identifies it as belonging to the \System Files\ directory, Trimble Sync Manager will direct it to be added as a project reference file. This can be done either during create job or in Project properties - Project reference files. Any files added will be automatically downloaded and synchronized with the controller. This is currently a one way sync. If the files are edited on a controller they would show a conflict and the user can select to keep what is on the controller or overwrite.

I would like the TSC7 synchroniser to work similarly to the TSC2 and TSC3 synchronisers. I realise Trimble is at the forefront of progress, but this new synchroniser is cumbersome and very, very, very time consuming. I need the synchroniser to download all new files from the controller at one hit and to delete AND archive all folders previously removed from the computer directory. It was a great system that works well. That way we can view and use the data as, and when, we want to, and not have to download each and every job singularly.

Is Trimble Connect Sync the same program, or does it do what we need. I read the link you provided but am still unconvinced that is what we're after. And after reading the comments below it appears to be more time consuming.

A couple of months have passed now, and we still don't have an answer to the question. How can we get a synchronising program that does exactly what the previous synchronising programs did, synchronise and archive?

The only way I've been able to deal with with syncing my TSC7s is using a Synology drive our IT department setup and using the Synology drive client. The problem I run into is that I don't have any control over what's being synced, and if something has been deleted I can't access it because IT won't give me admin rights to access the recycling bin on the Synology.

The TSC7 is a windows device and as such is subject to file structure. I don't use Access but it has to grab its data from somewhere...if you can figure out where that somewhere is, there should be no reason you cant upload from a thumb-drive. All Design data for me comes out of the C: regardless of using Siteworks or SCS900.

I personally utilize TCC file space for all the sync actions. It is too easy and I don't have to deal with constant windows issues. I don't know how much time I have waisted try to get sync manager to work on TSC3's. Then date and time needs to be accurate on the controller or the loss of data will most certainly occur. With TCC there is a cost associated per device but the benefits are worth it. Just need a device active, some inter-webs and design data as well as field data is basically immediately accessible.

You may require an IT professional to assist with the network configuration described above as ours was done buy our IT consultant. I have done my best to describe the process and included screenshots below.

Once you have the network configuration sorted you should be able to create a new device in Office Synchronizer named the same as your TSC7. You should then be able to open Office Synchronizer on your PC, open TabletSync on your TSC7 and connect. You may need to allow access through firewalls which your IT consultant should be able to assist with.

Thanks for the quick feedback, I must admit I looked at Trimble Connect Sync back in March last year and at that time it wouldn't let you two way sync. This is why we came up with the above solution. I must admit I am probably a bit late in replying to your original question.

What I did was create a project in Trimble Connect called My TSC7 Backup. I then opened this project on the TSC7 in Trimble Connect Sync, hit advanced and then edited the sync schedule. It is here that I had the ability to change the folder location to C:\Programdata\Trimble\Trimble Data.

The Trimble Connect Sync also has conflict resolution and the options to do Bi-directional, Upload Only, Download only and Local Transfer. This appears to cover all bases and data can be backed up anywhere there is an internet connection.

This is different to creating projects in Trimble Connect and synchronizing each individual project. I am not sure if this is the method you were referring to but this is now my favored alternative for synchronizing Trimble Access data and system files.

I prefer not to share contents of Trimble Data, as we have 6 TSC7 controllers on the job and I just want to synch design files, and not setting files between the controllers. Also, not all user have access to all Projects, hence one-project-as-a-time approach in my case.

We have 6 TSC7's as well all assigned to Surveyors, what I was really looking for was a fool proof way to backup data from the TSC7 even those job files that get created in Access by the surveyor in the field.

I understand that if you are on a large project where multiple surveyors are deployed then individual projects through Trimble Connect would be ideal as any design changes can be deployed to all devices instantaneously.

Our situation is a bit different as we have individual surveyors working on lots of different projects, sometimes more than 5 different projects in a day. It is quite critical for us that surveyors can create projects and new jobs on the fly inside Access and that we can then seamlessly back up that data. This data does not usually get shared between devices.

I have also tried Trimble Sync Manager for this process but it appears to only sync to the cloud those projects that have originally been created in Sync Manager. There does not appear to be an option to create a new project in Access that gets synced back to the cloud.

You are correct. You can create a project anywhere but wont be able to sync it with Trimble access until it is opened in "Sync Manager". I currently have 10 field crews using it every day, accessing their files and sending the job files back to the cloud at the wend of the day, with photos and notes attached. Whenever we get a new project we make it part of our procedures to create a sync manager project so all can access it when needed. If for some reason the crews need to create a project that is not already set up, we have a miscellaneous project created for each crew for that reason. If you want to get really fancy the field crews can install sync manager on their TSC7 or tablet and create the project there before opening in Access.

However, this appears to only be usable on the TSC7. These folders are not visible to Trimble Sync. So to create the project with a set folder structure, the project needs to be manually added onto the TSC7. Why can't it just be a part of either Trimble Connect or Trimble Sync? Why do we have to go through so many steps just to have a project folder structure created only to have it not even be accessible in the one program (Trimble Sync) that is supposed to be used with Trimble Access 2020?

The only upside, is if you make a TEMPLATE project, you can create the folders in there and use it repeatedly. Except in Trimble Sync. Where having a folder structure is a great way to organize the survey data. Trimble Connect just seems to throw all the survey data in a single ToDo list, with no regard to the folders used on the data collector.

Open a new project in Trimble Connect or Trimble Sync Manager. And then in Trimble Sync Manager under Properties-->Reference you put all your reference files. They will pop up under Configuration file in Trimble Connect.

I don't have an issue with creating the projects and using them on the TSC7. The issue I have is creating a standardized folder structure which can be used form project to project. The folder structure should be a feature that can be built into the project settings in Trimble Sync and then uploaded to the data collectors when the project is initiated. The folder structure as seen in Trimble Connect is not visible to Trimble Sync. The only two ways to have a folder structure in Trimble Sync is to either have it created on the TSC7 and it gets populated as each job is uploaded, or to manually create it with a job file from within T. Sync.

By far the easiest and quickest way to move data between the TSC7 and a PC (no matter if you are using access or sitework) is to installed Dropbox, Onedrive, Google Drive or some other free cloud based platform.

Now you can easily upload files to the TSC7 from the PC and files you create on the TSC7 will instantly appear on the PC. You surveys will be back at the office before you lead the field! This approach has the added advantage of constantly backing up you data so if you drop the logger you data is safe!

It requires and internet connection obviously (if your using VRS you will have this anyway or you can create a hotspot from your phone) but I find this method extremely convenient and much quickly than connect.

The argument to use Trimble Sync with the TSC7 though, is that it directly connects the field data to TBC. It also allows status updates to be applied to the field data so you can easily manage and track the files. Using a third party file transfer program, you need to manually keep track of which files have been downloaded and added into the project. Using T. Sync, you can easily push updated project files to the survey crew without the added steps of altering the save location of each project on each TSC7.

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