Dwg Trueview Logo

[Michelle Benitone]

Ournew logo was substituted into an old dwg file called 'Company Logo'. Our P&IDs show 'Company Logo' xrefed correctly in AutoCAD LT with the new logo, but TrueView 2014 cannot seem to find 'Company Logo' at the same path. We have many computers with only TrueView, and I need to find a solution that will allow TrueView to xref the logo without individual users having to find the path. (Upgrade to TrueView 2018 will happen next spring, but I need a solution in the meantime.)

Thank you for your detailed and helpful reply. I may need to implement your solution, but for now, it appears that adding the SUPPORT FILE SEARCH PATH found in OPTIONS is not a needed step. It turned out that some installations of Design Review were finding the new logo xref without taking this step, and some weren't. The difference was that the drawings that could not find the xrefs had an old, previously used path that was not accessible to all users.

I sure appreciate your effort in providing the information and the screen shots to accomplish the adding the support path, and I will keep it in mind for future reference. Also, I'm sorry to have taken your time with this when I should have figured it out here.

Thank you for your detailed reply and follow ups. I may need to implement your solution, but for now, it appears that adding the SUPPORT FILE SEARCH PATH found in OPTIONS is not a needed step. It turned out that some installations of Design Review were finding the new logo xref without taking this step, and some weren't. The difference was that the drawings that could not find the xrefs had an old, previously used path that was not accessible to all users.

This seems to indicate that PCGS grants the owner of the coin the right to display the image. I don't believe this would give me the right to display an image of a Hanson coin on a website without PCGS license agreement.

It sounds like they're okay with personal use of the images. I imagine it's possible a conflict might arise if one were to attempt to use images commercially, like creating and retailing posters or calendars or such.

That being said, I've seen TrueViews used extensively in many places without issue. The one place where I have seen an issue is if you make a reference site album of sorts. This is where I think a site like Stack's Bowers needs permission and sites that don't get permission may be forced to shut down, like the one a forum member made. I think the other issue with with the forum member website is that the TrueViews were modified to change their background color, which generally isn't acceptable, though I have seen a prominent dealer brighten TrueViews, both on his website and Registry Sets.

If it's my coin then why don't I own the rights? Did you waive any rights when submitting it? If not, I'll see PCGS in court. You have to pay me to use an image of MY coin on YOUR website. Business is business, baby.

If you don't want CU to own the rights to photos of coins you own, you can request that they do not photograph it. Stewart Blay @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS has mentioned that he makes this request for his coin submissions, so you can inquire with him if you want to know more.

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TERMS AND CONDITIONS: I HAVE READ AND AGREE TO THE PCGS GRADING TERMS AND CONDITIONS ON THE BACK OF THIS FORM AND I ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR

COMPLETELY AND ACCURATELY FILLING OUT THE SUBMISSION FORM. IF COINS ARE SUBMITTED FOR SERVICES FOR WHICH THEY DO NOT QUALIFY, SIGNATURE BELOW

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Images for commercial and any other purposes, as PCGS in its sole discretion deems appropriate, including,

but not limited to, the publication and republication or reproduction in or on any media, of such Data and Images. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, Customer, on behalf of itself and any third party for whom

Customer may be acting with respect to this agreement, unconditionally and irrevocably transfers, conveys

and assigns to PCGS any and all current and any hereafter acquired rights, title and interests (including,

without limitation, rights in copyright, patent, trade secret and trademark) that Customer or any such third

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I'm not submitting coins to PCGS. I'm buying coins other people have sent to PCGS. So it's good to know what that gold shield on the front really means. Looking at eBay auctions you'd think it made th coin extra special when actually it means you don't own the image of it.

I didn't know PCGS was running a photography business. I thought they were running a coin grading business. In any case, to me a gold shield on the front is like buying property after the previous owner sold the mining rights: it makes the coin less desirable to me, not more so.

Just wondering, using the wedding photos as an example, if I take a picture of one of the wedding photos do I own it then since I took the picture or does it still belong to the photographer that took the original picture?

Can I, for example, go to a gallery and take photos of the photos and create my own commercial book using my photos? Absolutely not. Do I need gallery permission to post my photos on Facebook? Probably not.

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone think they were buying the photograph. I suppose the destroy all copies when they sell the coin. They should probably charge Heritage or Stack's for the Truview continuing to reside in their archives.end sarcasm

"Technically" the photographer that took the original photo is the only one who can duplicate it. If you want a copy you need to pay them to make a copy for you, You are not allowed to copy/reproduce/duplicate by any means. The photo you took is your property but it could get you sued and be used as evidence against you or you may need to agree to destroy it to prevent further litigation.

I practice IP law, including copyright and trademark. The answer to your question is actually quite complicated. However to make it easy to understand - any design of a US coin belongs to the US Mint and hence the US government. However, the government rarely enforces their IP rights, except in certain situations. Mostly, they get upset when people are using the various seals of different offices...

If the photographer is paid to take the photos, they should not own the rights to them. That always seemed bonkers to me. And yes our wedding photog tried to pull this also until we threatened to walk.

People are trying too hard here. If you want to use TrueViews to make a calendar to hang on your coin room wall or to post in your eBay listing when you're selling the coins, nobody is going to care. If, on the other hand, you are putting TrueViews in the book you're publishing or the posters you're selling on your website, you just might hear from somebody at PCGS about it.

CU/PCGS would want to have a liberal stance on this because it is in the best interest of their business and their brand. Simple enough. I might have reason to use some of their images and would request their permission in advance of course, as I did from auction companies. And while I am no lawyer, I would suspect part of the contract here is protecting the other direction. When you pay for a TrueView (many do predate the gold shield service), CU would want the content to be broadly available to them as well. The problems generally would come in if reuse of the images either would harm the brand or be used in a way that competes with it. That is not a legal view, just the practical business and marketing one.

However, if someone took a @dcarr design and made it their corporate logo and used it for advertising products - coins or non-coins, I am sure he would want to be paid for such uses. Or if someone starting making silver rounds and "borrowed" his design for the obverse and then added a different reverse from a US Mint coin.

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