Stevens Model 520 Shotgun Serial Numbers
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Savage/Stevens single and double barrel shotguns were date coded between March 1949 and December 1968. Usually, it is behind the hinge pin or ahead of the trigger guard on the bottom of the frame. It will appear as a small circle containing a number and a letter. The letters correspond to the years shown in the following table as shown below. Significance of the numbers is not known."**From page 1101 of Ned Schwing's 2004 Standard Catalog of Firearms, 14th Edition, published by Krause Publications of Iola, WI.
I got an old Stevens Model 58 bolt action shotgun from my late grandfather. I was hoping to register it, but I haven't found a serial number on it (yet). Does anyone know if these old guns were shipped without serial numbers? I'm not sure when this was produced, but I can imagine it being 50 years old.
5. From October 1968 to March 1988 Savage/Stevens/Fox B doubles are serial numbered in a completely new serial number range beginning at A000001. The six digit (always) numbers, stamped only on the left side of the frame, not on the barrels or fore end or on the wood, are preceded by capital letters from A to E. The letters do not correlate to production years. The letter prefix accompanied the Savage/Stevens/FoxB/Springfield serial number on every gun they made from 1968 on. Beginning about 1978 numbers 1 to 20 were also stamped on the three major components, frame,barrels and fore end iron, to enable the factory to keep 20 guns of like model together in a group for packing in the standard 20 gun shipping carton.
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Can anyone help me date this gun? A guy is trying to sell me this gun but I don't know if its one of the older high value ones or not. It has good case coloring but the stock looks pretty cheap. Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_13211', 'noskim');); 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM#2Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--It was made in 1978 but as far as worth goes I'm not to sure what your thinking it's worth or that you might be mistaking it for a Fox shotgun.
The 410 brings a premium of about $100 more than the other gauges but it's still only a $400 shotgun in like new condition.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 12-17-2009, 12:50 PM#3gobbleGuest Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--I have seen them bring 800.00 to 1000.00 in my area Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_13220', 'noskim'););12-17-2009, 12:53 PM#4gobbleGuest Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--i will take everyone one you can find for 400.00 with case coloring that is in good shape Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_13221', 'noskim'););12-17-2009, 01:08 PM#5gobbleGuest Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--thank you for dating it for me Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_13223', 'noskim'););12-17-2009, 02:59 PM#6Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752-- Originally Posted by gobble I have seen them bring 800.00 to 1000.00 in my areaRemind me to start selling them things in the U.S., I know of two of them up here right now at $400.
You wanna buy them for $1000 just let me know.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 12-17-2009, 03:03 PM#7gobbleGuest Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--can you ship to a FFL if so I will give you 50.00 bucks just to pick me one up if its the right one Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_13234', 'noskim'););12-17-2009, 04:49 PM#8Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 Re: Stevens model 311 series H 410 serial number C7752--It's another $200 just for the paperwork and such to ship a gun out of Canada. And even then it takes over 6 months to get there.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote Previous ThreadNext ThreadSimilar Threads Flaig's year model off of serial number By Flaig's 375 in forum Non-Savage Firearms Discussion Replies: 1 Last Post: 07-27-2018, 09:27 AM Shotgun:J. Stevens Model 335 16 gauge SxS serial number infor By 1919nut in forum Vintage Savage/Stevens/Fox Firearms Replies: 5 Last Post: 12-10-2015, 06:54 PM Rimfire:Model 19 NRA Serial Number By bcamicia in forum Vintage Savage/Stevens/Fox Firearms Replies: 0 Last Post: 11-23-2015, 12:32 AM model 110 with 5 digit serial number By jebbrwn33 in forum 110-Series Rifles Replies: 1 Last Post: 09-23-2015, 07:09 PM Mark I/II/93R:Savage model 93 22 mag. age by serial number By danjurista in forum Savage & Stevens Rimfire Rifles Replies: 1 Last Post: 12-11-2013, 10:31 PM Members who have read this thread in the last 1 days: 0There are no members to list at the moment. BookmarksBookmarksDiggdel.icio.usStumbleUponGooglePosting Permissions
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I have a Savage Model 99 in .300 Savage (probably an EG circa 1956). It has no serial number anywhere on it and no date code. The lever boss has an eight-point asterix where the date code should be. The area where the serial number should be is absolutely smooth. Also, the hidden end of the forearm piece has a marking (3 over the letters BR) in the wood. The butt stock under the butt plate is also marked the same. It was manufactured at the Chicopee Falls factory.
Does anybody have an idea of what this was intended to be. It almost makes me think it was not intended for resale? It definitely has some wear and been fired but is in very good condition. Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_387724', 'noskim');); 11-30-2016, 03:44 PM#2Jeff518View ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Team Savage Join Date Nov 2009Posts 135 I had one with a Utica barrel and no serial number, and I know of one other, probably with a Chicopee barrel. The consensus from the experts I spoke with, is...they're not sure why. Maybe upset quality control around the transition of factory change to Chicopee, maybe lunchbox specials?Jeff518 Reply With Quote 11-30-2016, 07:54 PM#3Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 I don't think it's a lunch box special, sounds more like a Chicopee rifle and someone put Westfield post mil 99 furniture on it.
The serial number missing would raise red flags on a possible stolen rifle.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 11-30-2016, 10:33 PM#4BalljointView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline New Member Join Date Oct 2007Location Philadelphia PaAge 78Posts 1,189 Before 1968 most rifles don't have a serial number Reply With Quote 12-01-2016, 02:22 AM#5carthagoGuest Originally Posted by Mad DogI don't think it's a lunch box special, sounds more like a Chicopee rifle and someone put Westfield post mil 99 furniture on it.
The serial number missing would raise red flags on a possible stolen rifle.The area on the bottom of the receiver near the lever boss has a uniform patina as on the rest of the receiver and shows no telltale depression that would indicate removal of the serial number. I don't think it is an early enough rifle to to have been produced when serial numbers were not used. Also, if someone removed the serial number, it still has a strange asterix where the date code belongs. Where you saying that there was some sort of furniture that had the "number 3 over BR lettering" stamped on it? Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_387795', 'noskim'););12-01-2016, 09:20 PM#6Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 Ya, post one million serial numbered 99's wouldn't have a serial number just a code like the one you mentioned, that's why I think the woods been swapped.
The asterisk is most likely just an inspection stamp.
I'm wondering if maybe you got a Westfield rifle and they used a left over Chicopee barrel on it. Did you take off the forearm and look underneath the barrel for another date code there? If it is a Westfield rifle which is the way it's pointing it won't usually have a date code although I have ran into a few other models that had them like an X on one of my old model 170's in 35 Rem.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 12-02-2016, 10:20 PM#7carthagoGuest Originally Posted by Mad DogYa, post one million serial numbered 99's wouldn't have a serial number just a code like the one you mentioned, that's why I think the woods been swapped.
The asterisk is most likely just an inspection stamp.
I'm wondering if maybe you got a Westfield rifle and they used a left over Chicopee barrel on it. Did you take off the forearm and look underneath the barrel for another date code there? If it is a Westfield rifle which is the way it's pointing it won't usually have a date code although I have ran into a few other models that had them like an X on one of my old model 170's in 35 Rem.I checked underneath the barrel after removing the forearm and there are no markings there. You mentioned a Westfield rifle. All know about that is that it was a headquarters location for Savage at one time. Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388019', 'noskim'););12-02-2016, 11:03 PM#8carthagoGuest Pictures of the Savage 99 EGI have finally got around to providing some pictures of the rifle. I can add others if anyone wants me to.
[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG] Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388024', 'noskim'););12-03-2016, 03:20 PM#9Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 Wow, that's real weird, it's wearing model EG wood but no serial numbers on it, strange.
It all points to a Chicopee made 99EG except no serial numbers, maybe it was a lunch box special.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 12-03-2016, 03:54 PM#10carthagoGuest Originally Posted by Mad DogWow, that's real weird, it's wearing model EG wood but no serial numbers on it, strange.
It all points to a Chicopee made 99EG except no serial numbers, maybe it was a lunch box special.Mad Dog, you didn't explain to me what a Westfield rifle would look like. I am adding some more pics. It has the brass bead on the front sight and you will note that it was not tapped for scope mounts as original. This makes me think from what I can find is that it is before 1957 and probably 1955/56. I used Murray's "A History of the Savage Model 99 Rifle, 3-59 as a reference. The rifle originally had sling mount hardware. Also, I have another question for you.
[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]Last edited by carthago; 12-04-2016 at 12:04 PM.Reason: Remove one line of text Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388106', 'noskim'););12-04-2016, 09:08 AM#11Mad DogView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Vintage Savage Guru Join Date Dec 2006Location Ont, CanadaAge 54Posts 1,551 No, now that I see the gun it definitely rules out a Westfield rifle. They were made after 1960 and most had pressed checkering.
The gun looks all legit only no serial numbers.
Tell me whats stamped on the front of the receiver? You'll have to take the forearm off again.Savage- "never say never". Reply With Quote 12-04-2016, 12:13 PM#12carthagoGuest Here is a picture of the receiver front end. No Markings here.
[IMG][/IMG]Last edited by carthago; 12-04-2016 at 12:32 PM.Reason: spacing Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388234', 'noskim'););12-04-2016, 12:31 PM#13carthagoGuest Looking at Reciever/Furniture Fit ProblemI was looking at a fit problem between the receiver and the butt-stock that may explain some things. I think the butt-stock was binding where the right side meets the edge of the receiver. Notice that it looks like the end of the stock is pushed upward with respect to the receiver. I also think that the bottom edge of the receiver where the trigger guard boss swoops into the receiver is not finished properly. The combination of issues may have caused this rifle to be set aside. I have also notice a crack in the butt-stock on the right side of the receiver tang that is almost invisible but can be felt with my fingers. It was a fixable problem but not a priority and so the gun was never finished for resale. Maybe someone liberated it at the factory not thinking it would be missed.
[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]Last edited by carthago; 12-04-2016 at 12:34 PM.Reason: text Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388235', 'noskim'););12-04-2016, 03:47 PM#14Sav22View ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Basic Member Join Date Aug 2013Posts 208 Originally Posted by BalljointBefore 1968 most rifles don't have a serial number Before 1968 that was only legal for small caliber rimfires and possibly some shot guns and even then most companies still serial numbered there higher quality ones, all Savage pump 22,s were serial numbered until until about 1950 and so were most Winchester and Remington 22's. All high power rifles should have serial numbers even if made before 1968. Reply With Quote 12-04-2016, 04:58 PM#15carthagoGuest Originally Posted by Sav22Before 1968 that was only legal for small caliber rimfires and possibly some shot guns and even then most companies still serial numbered there higher quality ones, all Savage pump 22,s were serial numbered until until about 1950 and so were most Winchester and Remington 22's. All high power rifles should have serial numbers even if made before 1968.From what I see by looking at the 1934 National Firearms Act, it only applies to NFA defined firearms (machine guns, short barreled rifles and shotguns, suppressors). There was no requirement for serial numbers on any other guns. The 1968 Firearms Act did not require serial numbers for guns in existence before the act. The only problem is if a serial number was "removed, obliterated, or changed" if it had previously been there. Firearm serial numbers by manufacturers prior to 1968 was entirely optional.Last edited by carthago; 12-04-2016 at 05:02 PM.Reason: change text Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_388278', 'noskim'););12-07-2016, 06:37 PM#16Gene LView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Basic Member Join Date Dec 2016Posts 23 Well, while I'm new here, I'm not new to Savage rifles. ALL that I know of had #s. I think it's a lunch box rifle. Very unusual. Reply With Quote 12-14-2016, 02:08 PM#17carthagoGuest Originally Posted by Gene LWell, while I'm new here, I'm not new to Savage rifles. ALL that I know of had #s. I think it's a lunch box rifle. Very unusual.I am sure that this rifle should have been given a serial number due to its apparent manufacture date. That is what makes me think that it never got out of the production floor in the normal manner. The actual circumstances may not be able to be determined. I would still like to know what an asterix means where the date code should be. Reply With Quote vBulletin.events.SkimlinksActivate.subscribe(function()YAHOO.util.Dom.addClass('post_389632', 'noskim'););03-13-2019, 11:31 PM#18hcofastpitchView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline New Member Join Date Mar 2019Location cleveland texasPosts 1 I just bought a savage 99 300 savage with no serial number, did you ever figure yours out. exactly the same rifle except i dont have scope holes on the receiver Reply With Quote 02-22-2023, 02:04 PM#19NYHunter444View ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline New Member Join Date Dec 2022Posts 8 Originally Posted by BalljointBefore 1968 most rifles don't have a serial numberAlmost all Savage 1899's and 99's do have serial numbers.
I'm pretty sure the Savage 1895's do too. Reply With Quote 02-22-2023, 02:06 PM#20NYHunter444View ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline New Member Join Date Dec 2022Posts 8 I have a 99 that also has an asterisk for a boss code but it does have a serial number.
I'd love to know more about that. Reply With Quote 02-23-2023, 09:59 AM#21CalhounRRView ProfileView Forum PostsView ArticlesStatus Offline Basic Member Join Date Sep 2021Location Eastern Nebr.Posts 85 Before the date codes started in 1949, there would be a stamp on the front of the lever. Just an inspection/assembly code stamped on during manufacturing. I'm sure it indicated a specific inspector or assembler. Reply With Quote Previous ThreadNext ThreadSimilar Threads Shotgun:Savage Model 720 Serial Number Question By wbennett2 in forum Vintage Savage/Stevens/Fox Firearms Replies: 1 Last Post: 07-11-2016, 03:49 PM Barrel says Model 111, Savage website serial number match says Model 11? By thewho0214 in forum 110-Series Rifles Replies: 2 Last Post: 10-22-2014, 07:49 PM Date of mfg for 110 serial number F093546 By AZ_GUN_NUT in forum 110-Series Rifles Replies: 5 Last Post: 02-02-2014, 12:37 AM Savage 99:Savage 99 serial number sequencing/ issue order and caliber release date questions! By bczrx in forum Vintage Savage/Stevens/Fox Firearms Replies: 9 Last Post: 01-18-2014, 05:02 PM Mark I/II/93R:Savage model 93 22 mag. age by serial number By danjurista in forum Savage & Stevens Rimfire Rifles Replies: 1 Last Post: 12-11-2013, 10:31 PM Members who have read this thread in the last 1 days: 0There are no members to list at the moment. BookmarksBookmarksDiggdel.icio.usStumbleUponGooglePosting Permissions
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