I am definitely very soon upgrading to Monterey from the last version of Catalina (and on another computer the last version of Mojave) and I see from this handy chart that Monterey will not be compatible with the Logic version I have (10.4.8). Which version of Logic should I get and do I get it from the app store? Thanks.
I just downloaded Monterey from Catalina just now !!! . Can anyone please tell me how I get the version of logic that works best with Monterey ? I really appreciate it !!!! From this post it looks like 10.7.9. Can someone send me this version ? Or tell me how I can get please? Thank you very much !!!
No...unless you fully wipe the drive/install a fresh OS.
You "might" need to update some of your plug-ins if they're incompatible with Monterey. Not sure what OS you're upgrading from or how many plugs you've got, but you should expect a few "problem children", which usually happens with OS upgrades. Just grab the update(s) from the plug-in manufacturer site and you should be cool.
The updated Logic version may re-scan the plug-ins (if the scan app/process differs between Logic versions - if not, the existing scanned plug-ins list/prefs will be used).
I get a message saying it appears corrupt/truncated, along those lines. Logic can't seem to find the audio files when they are where they are supposed to be. Still unsuccessful after letting Logic 'search' for them for some reason. I could go the route of adding each audio file manually but that would take an enormous amount of time. Each project in Logic that is corrupt has the minus sign in a red circle icon in the name of the folder. I'm hoping there is a fix for this as I am just updating you guys. I will now search for any solutions here.
Quick update, it seems after giving Logic full disk access to write, my issues have seem to resolve itself. I didn't know the access to write was a thing after upgrading to Monterey.. either way, all is good. Thanks all for giving us the confidence to do things like this, I feel this board is a great resource to fall back on.
I have 2 macbook pros. One is a 15" from 2015, and the other a 13" from 2020. The newest OS I can go to on the 2015 computer is Monterey. I like being able to move files back and forth so I want to be able to have the same OS on both of them. The 2015 has the last version of Mojave, and the 2013 has the last version of Catalina. I do my Logic work on 2020 macbook pro. On this Mac I've been using Logic 10.4.8. This version of Logic with the last version of Catalina have been working perfectly together for years. What version (if there is one) of Logic works well with Monterey and how would I get it? Is there anything else I have to watch out for that could cause me problems? Thanks.
Atlas, thanks for your answer. Is 10.7.6 the latest version of Logic? I haven't upgraded in so long that I haven't kept up. I see you have a much more powerful computer than I have. I have a quad core i7 with 16 GB of ram. Will this be good enough? My projects aren't very big, never go over 16 tracks, mostly 8 or less. Vocals, acoustic instruments, sometimes software instruments. I do extensive scoring too. Also will my projects created in Logic 10.4.8 open up without glitches coming through? I'm nervous about doing this, that's for sure.
Thanks dess99. I'm trying to learn if I can use the latest version of Logic with Monterey. I'm hoping this upgrade will be smooth sailing. Is there a lot I'll need to re-learn in Logic 10.7 coming from 10.4?
I just updated from Catalina to Monterey about a month ago. And to the new version of Logic. Some Nice new things in the newer version and I wanted to be up to date as well. More Drums/Loops/features. Looks very similar and no need to relearn major things with the update. Just more options it seems. Hope that helps!
You could expect than some plugin presets sound may have changed slightly (although some have disputed that). So depending of your old projects making use of those, there might be nuances but nothing drastic.
How complicated, error-prone is it to do your own OS upgrades? I don't remember what I did the last time, whether I did it myself or had someone else do it. Is there any information written down about this? If I do this myself, how can I get Monterey? Thanks.
Thanks Atlas. I've heard that some people "clone" their computers before upgrading. I'll have to read about that. On my older computer, the highest I can go is Monterey. I found that out when I looked at System preferences -> Software update. This is good, because if I upgrade I want to go to Monterey. I'll have to look at my other computer too. If that one wants me to go to Ventura, I'll have to figure out how to get Monterey.
Right now Im downloading Monterey, but software update wants to install Ventura, which I dont want to do. If your system you want to update does go to Ventura, you might want to disable automatic updates, or it will download Ventura when you check.
If you have any 3rd party plugs just be aware that clones or time machine backups may not work properly and its recommended to reinstall them. This is the case with NI. Make sure you have any personal plugin settings copied to an external drive somewhere.
I'm trying to build a very simple tri-state register circuit by combining the SN74LS273DWR and SN74LS245NSR chips on a small PCB that has eight header pins for 8 bits of input or output, and a 6 pin header that connect power, ground, clock, OE, DIR (buffer direction), and CLR ( register clear). Literally that's all that's on the board - two chips and two headers - no resistors, no capacitors, etc. The register chip (well, actually it's an octal flip-flop I'm using as a register) either saves a values from the input/output header, or sends its value out to the input/output header. The buffer chip sits in between the register chip and the input/output header in order to control whether its in INPUT mode or OUTPUT mode. This circuit is meant to connect to a bus for either reading values and saving them, or outputting previously saved values to the bus.
6) Set the DIR pin high (in order to change the buffer direction, now my input pins should be the output of the register) and check the output pins' logic level (they should match the values I just saved).
9) If I disconnect power from the circuit, wait a few seconds, and power back up, the circuit will once again always save correctly just the FIRST time, but not bits 7 and 8 on any subsequent attempt.
I have narrowed down the problem to some strange behavior of the buffer chip (SN74LS245NSR). When I'm inputting values into the register (DIR pin set LOW), so B pins go to A pins, the FIRST time, everything is OK. My MM shows correct voltage levels on all B input pins and all A output pins. But the _second_ time and on, the buffer chip totally misbehaves and does NOT send the correct voltage from B pins 7 and 8 to A pins 7 and 8. The voltage on the B side is about 3.4V, but the output A pins (7 or 8, sometimes both) show a voltage of only 1.05V, which is not even in logic range for this chip. So therefore, when I pulse the clock on the register in order to save the binary number on the input header, it doesn't get the correct voltage to represent either a HIGH or LOW from the buffer chip for bits 7 & 8.
I had the PCB boards manufactured by JLCPCB and have used them many times, never had an issue with their boards. This time however, I bought the 'LS245 chips from them (also TI brand) and had the factory solder on the chips for me. So when I got the boards in the mail, I only had to solder on the register chip myself. I would figure since the buffer chip was soldered by a professional machine that there's a very low chance they would burn out those chips.
At first, I thought maybe the factory used fake TI chips and that was the problem. I got 5 boards from them, and ALL 5 had the same issue. So I ordered a new set of boards _without_ the buffer chips pre-soldered and ordered a set of SN74LS245NSR chips directly from TI. Obviously TI chips directly from TI are going to be real, so when I got the new set of boards, I quickly went to solder on both chips and thought everything was going to OK. But no! Same issue!!
OK, at this point, I think, let's make sure it's not the connected 'LS273 chip that's causing some voltage variation... So I take a brand new board and solder _only_ the 'LS245 (buffer) chip to it and proceed to test the circuit just like before but without the register chip. Obviously the buffer chip doesn't have a clock pin, so that part is irrelevant. Here's what I see:
I know what you're thinking - I damaged the chip while soldering, and that's exactly what I thought at first. Then I tried soldering on 5 more chips, to 5 different boards, and still the same behavior. By the second board, I lowered my soldering iron temperature to 270 C and started using thinner solder. At 270C it takes a bit longer for solder to start to melt on the pins. Previously my temp was 350 C, which might be too high for SMD's. But I thought 270 C was OK? Is it not?
Then I started a process of elimination - I soldered _only_ these pins: VCC, ground, DIR, OE. I just wanted to see if my wattage/current monitor (which is a USB monitor since my circuit takes power from a USB port) would show unusually high wattage. It did _not_. Then I soldered on just data pin B 8. And, sure enough, got extremely high wattage readings again and the chip got extremely hot with OE set to LOW. When I move OE to HIGH, the wattage goes down by a whole watt, and the chips cools, but still hot enough to feel significantly warm (more than I think it should be for only having 5 pins hooked up).
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