English Grammar Books For Class 8 Pdf

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Nathen Paisley

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TheCambridge Grammar of the English Language (CGEL), Huddleston and Pullum, 2002, a very often cited reference book in these here parts (ELL and ELU). I don't know remotely as much about CGEL as some knowledgeable contributors, and I only consult it and reference it when I need to, but it is one of the most comprehensive and coherent grammars. Note that from what I understand it is not without issues and doesn't always agree with other major grammar reference books.

CGEL is popular with many users, but McCawley 1998 is an alternative that is completely clear and well-written (by one person), with all deviations from traditional terminology explained as they occur, and no made-up terminology. It's a generative grammar, but not a Chomskyan grammar. McCawley gives top billing to the grammatical phenomena of the title, and only second billing to the theory he uses to describe them.


Hi, so, I have reached chapter 7 in genki, but ended one month not studing japanese. So, two weeks ago, when I was ready to continue, decided it was a good oportunity to use bunpro to review all the grammar I learned.


So, I discovered that I knew worst the grammar point from genki than I thought (ended having 100 ghosts in bunpro after adding all the grammar I learned in genki). I also discovered that bunpro grammar explanations are great, seriusly, I went from not being hable to differenciate when each particle should be used へ で に, to have a good understanding with bunpro. Also, it takes a lot less time to cover the same amount of grammar points.


So, right now, with 50 grammar point in bunpro and chaper 7 finished in genki, I am wondering why spend so much hours studying from a textbook, if I can learn faster, better, and a longer retention rate with bunpro than with a textbook. All the extra time I would have, I could use to learn even more vocabulary, or eventually, have more time for native japanese content


So, what do you all think I should do? Ditch genki/textbooks and go the bunpro only route, or there something I missing since Im still just at the beginning of learning the language, and should still use textbooks?


edit: I forgot to mention another good thing about the bunpro only route would be I dont need to learn how to handwrite to be able to keep learning japanese, so that also would give me more time to use in other things in the early stages, and when I have a good grasp of the language or want to move to japan, then learn to handwrite


Use whatever resource works best for you, but if you decide to choose the Bunpro-only path, feel free to ask questions on the forums whenever you need, or swing us a message through the feedback! We will constantly be altering our grammar explanations throughout the foreseeable future, to make them as simple as possible.


You will definitely need something additional for vocabulary (at this stage Bunpro is not enough), kanji, and reading comprehension (again, Bunpro at this stage might not be enough but in the future who knows)


Right now I use wanikani and genki 1 SRS in memrise, but if I decide to go only bunpro for grammar, I first would complete genki covab, and then I would search for some other SRS deck.

For listening, personally, I think genki was not enought. I dont have a good plan for this part, maybe just listen to nihongo con teppei, but I feel like its more like lots of content little learning quiality, but IDK


So, your opinion, bunpro is enought for your grammar needs, and you only use textbooks as a way to get reading materials for your level? I had tried to find reading materials for my level, but there is not a lot, but I would have imagined that in your level you could start finding enought reading material in easy mangas


For the people recommending additional resources, while I would like to use some extra resources, like for listening and reading, too many resources would make me slow down, and could end up taking the same amount of time or more of the time I would have gained not using genki. If I really need that many resources, maybe I would be better using bunpro and textbooks and reduce amount of resources


I think I will first try to do 2 chapters of genki with bunpro the last days of 2021, the first one first studing genki first then bunpro, and the second one first bunpro and then genki. I will decide after that. Thanks for working in this awesome website, probably will end up getting the lifetime subscription


For the JLPT this month I used a combination of textbooks, Bunpro, and Memrise. Memrise was for vocabulary, Bunpro was to remember the grammar and its meaning, and I used 新完全マスター for the fine details of the grammar.


You certainly dont need textbooks for grammar explanations but the reason to use textbooks would be the exercises and drills that force you to think a little differently to how Bunpro makes you think about grammar. Personally I think Bunpro + Kanzen Master is a good combination.


However, I still think they have merit. Having a variety of ways to practice - be it writing exercises, solo speaking or whatever - certainly has its place. I use Bunpro a lot more than Tobira, but I still go back to it to reinforce stuff.


I also have even more grammar books lists I want to make for skills that I have more than just a couple of recommendations for that I want to dedicate an entire post to. You can follow me on Facebook if you want to see when I announce new lists! You can also use the little Facebook icon below to share this post if you want to save it that way to remember to come back for the new books I share.


After you've got some kanji knowledge under your belt (about level 10 or 20 in WaniKani), it's time to pick up a textbook and start learning the framework in which you can use all the Japanese you've learned.


But which textbook to choose? There are so many. And beyond textbooks, there is a wealth of reference books, dictionaries, and other things that expand on your textbook's lessons. And you'll need those to reach intermediate and beyond.


If you're following our path to Japanese fluency, you'll already know upwards of 650 kanji from your WaniKani lessons at level 20. With so much kanji packed in your brain, not only will these textbooks be much easier to use, but you'll be able to skip the kanji lessons and use that time to move your Japanese ability forward in other ways.


To get a decent handle on the structure of Japanese, you need a solid textbook (or the equivalent) to explain grammar concepts, provide practice exercises, and introduce material that's only +1 above your current ability level.


A perfect starting point for beginners, Genki has an easy-to-follow lesson structure that begins with dialogues using target vocabulary and grammar, which are then taught more clearly in the succinct and easy-to-understand lessons.


The difficulty of each lesson scaffolds gradually, so you won't feel the material is too far above your head. The exercises, audio CDs, and workbook match the high quality of the textbook and reinforce what you're learning through variety and repetition.


Genki was designed for classrooms, so if you're a self-learner, keep in mind the material may need to be modified for your situation. Also, this means most of the terminology and dialogue is aimed at the college demographic.


If you're a complete beginner, Minna no Nihongo will present a significant challenge: it's all in Japanese. And we don't mean "there's no romaji," the entire book is in Japanese. You need a separate "translation book" in English to study properly.


The two book system isn't "bad," necessarily. Studying with the main, all-Japanese textbook will force you to figure things out through context and use your brain a little more. You can always check the translation book for grammar explanations when you get stuck.


Minna no Nihongo is very in-depth too. It covers a lot of material and uses complex terms to teach grammar points. It even explains pitch accents with new grammar you learn! This is great because pitch accent should be learned early but few textbooks cover it.


Upon completing the first Minna no Nihongo, you'll know more than if you'd studied Genki I. If you're more academic and want to learn as much as possible, this is a great option for you because you can take your time and soak in the knowledge. If you hit a roadblock, a tutor or language partner would work well with this textbook.


What sets Yookoso! apart is the grammar explanations. They're academic and brief to the point of being a little unclear. But there are a lot of example sentences, tables, and other material to flesh out target concepts. It's like Yookoso! quickly explains how to swim then pushes you into the pool.


This focus on example sentences is a great way to get a feel for Japanese in its native habitat and will give you a strong collocation background. Though short, the grammar explanations do a fine job of teaching you the nuts and bolts of the language, breaking down the rules so the example sentences do you a lot of good.


And while Yookoso! teaches a lot, some may find its content outdated and hard to navigate. The first book in the series begins with a bootcamp of sorts that can disenfranchise beginner learners. It seems like Yookoso! was meant to act more as a college classroom textbook rather than a self-learner resource.

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