Re: Spaze Privy Association (SPA) - Discussion and Way Forward

[gautam arora]

Dear All,

 

There are two google groups which I just discovered. Some of you were not receiving emails and it was creating confusion.Please keep both the email ids while responding.

 

@ All, the below email is for your information. You all must read it.

 

@ Mr. Punj, Please you can share your meeting details with mr. Vivek.

 

Regards,

Gautam

 

 

 

From: gautam arora <gautama...@yahoo.com>
To: "spazep...@googlegroups.com" <spazep...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 February 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: Fw: Spaze Privy Association (SPA) - Discussion and Way Forward

Dear All

 

The below email is for your information just incase if you missed out on reading this email.

 

 

Regards,

Gautam

 

 

 

From: Gaurav Wadhwa [mailto:lucky...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:05 AM
To: Arora, Gautam
Subject: Fwd: Spaze Privy Association (SPA) - Discussion and Way Forward

 

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Subject: Re: Spaze Privy Association (SPA) - Discussion and Way Forward

 

Dear Rohit,

 

Thanks for the e-mail. I have read through your mail in detail and also spoke to my father who was there at the meeting. I will draft the letter and circulate among the group shortly for review and comments. This cover letter will need to be accompanied by each owner with the cheque of INR 1 lakh.

 

Amit, I have seen the contents of the legal notice. The legal notice is in order and does cover all the points to show "deficiency of service" and "unfair trade practice" and does provide good grounds of action against the builder in a consumer forum in Gurgaon. My only suggestion is that if we do proceed to go legal (based on the fact that the builder did not provide adequate material based on the layout and on the builders agreement), it is better to file (to show great harm across the cross section of allottees) a common class action suit before the consumer forum rather than individual complaint. Filing a class action suit will help in speeding up the process at the consumer forum in Gurgaon and may assist in obtaining a favourable order. As such, I do agree with the approach that a legal notice is to be served upon the builders (showing the gross irregularties and deficiency of service by the builder) prior to taking the case to court.

 

Happy to discuss further.

 

Regards,

 

Abir

 

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Amit Agarwal <akprodu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Abir and other fellow members,

 

I have enclosed a copy of legal notice which I have sent to SPAZE .

 

Please provide your views /  comments.

 

Thanks & regards,

b.r.,
AA

 

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Rohit Sharma <rohit...@tatacommunications.com> wrote:

Folks,

 

We met with Spaze yesterday and here are the minutes of meeting captured. Abir will now draft a letter to formalize what we discussed and agreed with builder.

 

Should I have missed anything or should anybody has a difference in opinion on what we discussed or agreed, please feel free to correct me.

 

Agreed:

1. Payment Schedule: Buyers need to make payment of INR One Lakhs each now, and balance payment after 30 days, post completion of work as per buyer(s) satisfaction i.e. on offer of final possession.

Possession here refers to as completion of flat in all aspects including washroom fittings, tiles, wooden flooring, modular kitchen etc. however; electrical fittings, ACs, last coat of white wash will be installed or completed only when builder will be the recipient of final payment from buyer(s).

Here, possession also refers to as successful completion of all equipment’s, services and products with compliance certificates, which are essential and mandatory to live in securely & comfortably. This includes Fire fighting systems, lifts, CCTV surveillance, 3 tier security, water supply arrangement, electrical connection etc. Facilities which are luxury in nature like Club, Swimming pool etc. are not included here and builder will remain committed to provide all such facilities and services at the earliest.

2. Permissive Possession: Since, buyer and builder agreed to pay full amount on final offer of possession, after satisfactorily completion of work, so received notice of permissive possession becomes null and void and builder will not impose any penalty basis any delay in payment till now for what so ever the reason it may be for delay in payment.
3. Delay in Possession: Builder will complete all internal and external work as mentioned above within 30 days however; if builder is not able to do so then, builder will be liable to pay penalty as per the initial agreement signed with buyer(s) and no penalty for delay in payments will be levied on buyer(s) for delay from builder side for what so ever the reason it may be.
4. Undertaking Certificate: Buyers will only sign the undertaking certificate while receiving the keys of the units and builder will accept all partial and full payments without signing of the undertaking form, shared along with offer letter of permissive possession.
5. Management Charges: All management charges will be charged only after acceptance of final possession offer.
6. Occupancy Certificate: Though builder has confirmed that they have completed all formalities for occupancy certificate and have applied for the same and any delay in obtaining the occupancy certificate will be on the part of builder and any penalty by government or regulatory body will be levied by builder only.
7. Joint Inspection: This Saturday i.e. on 22^nd Feb, 2014, we shall have a joint visit with builder and during the same visit buyers will showcase pending or repair work to be completed in flat & / or in society.

 

Demands:

1. Super Area Calculation: We all buyers do demand super area calculation done initially while launching the society and now, when builder increased the super area and showcase to us where all the super area got increased.
2. Change in internal lay out design: Builder has confirmed buyers that there is no change in initial lay-out design or floor plan and will showcase the same to flat owners however; if they found any change in initial floor plan during our joint visit then, builder will drive the best possible mutually agreed solution. If builder fails to work out a possible mutually agreed solution, then our demand is to pay off for reduction in carpet area.

 

What all need to find out and agree on, is there any ramification of acceptance of possession, without obtaining the occupancy certificate. If there is any corollary then, how to avoid the same and can we hold some payment of builder till then.

 

Warm Regards,

Rohit Sharma

+91 99100 33891

 

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Subject: Spaze Privy Association (SPA) - Discussion and Way Forward<= u>

 

Folks,

 =

In our group, we hav= e 242 email IDs. Considering duplicates, we should not be lesser than 200 m= embers or flat owners i.e. approx. 40% and still, growing.  This strength is even good enough to fight o= ur right.

 =

Please don’t c= onsider me judgemental however; request all to be please be participative i= n forum, it is ultimately our hard earned money and more importantly, we all have patiently waited for our respectiv= e homes and we should not really allow somebody to be beneficiary of our si= tuation, should we?

 =

I have included Abir= , who is corporate lawyer by profession and also, a flat owner in our socie= ty. Abir will add to what I have suggested yesterday, in trail mail. He will also suggest further course of action. <= u>

 =

Also, I will be ther= e at Spaze this Saturday morning and will meet builder. All flat owners are= welcome, please do join in maximum nos.

 =

Abir, please do share your thoughts an= d suggestions.

 =

Regards,

Rohit Sharma<= u>

+91 99100 33891=

 

Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 12:57 am
Subject: Re: spaze privy owners meeting at 11 AM on dec 21 (saturday) at sp= aze office on sohna road

Thanks Manish for your response and pumping= new oxygen to this group. Also, am adding few more members to this group.&= nbsp;

 

Fortunately, we have found one one legal ex= pert in our group itself and off-course, I discussed this in detail with hi= m. What we agree on that, before making any payment to builder, we should register our strong=  protest and grievances by signing a well drafted letter, duly signed = by flat owners, as maximum as possible. =

 

Flat owners who have made the payment o= r making the payments should also sign this letter, supporting those who ha= ve decided to fight this battle. =

 

After signing this letter, we shall dec= ide on whether to make the payments or not, basis builder response, if any = at all.  

 

Even if, we will decide to make payment= s for any reason what soever it may be, we shall make the payments under pr= otest only in order 

1) To ensure our door to go legal will = not get closed

1) To ensure our door to go legal will = not get closed

2) To further strengthen our case, if w= e decide to go legal

 

Signing this letter may not necessarily= means that we all are going to legal, it is just the grievance which we ar= e showing off to builder i.e. flat owners who will decide not to move further basis, any reason what soever it may b= e, may opt to withdraw their registration from this fight. 

 

Well, immediate action required is to share= the agreement copy of each type with Abir, legal expert and a flat owner i= n Spaze. We do have agreement of initial flat sizes of super area 1900 and 1930 sq. ft and do need for other types of fl= ats as well. Request to those, who have other types of flat to share the sa= me, either to me or to Abir and support him to draft this letter, <= /u>

 

Please notice, Abir's email ID will be = added by tomorrow. I just have his no.as of now, will take tomorrow and will loop him-in. <= u>

 

All are requested to please do come back to= us, in case any difference of opinion. 

 

Also, request flat-owners to meet this Satu= rday, 11:00 AM to raise our voice, once again. You all are requested to ple= ase confirm.

 

Warm Regards,

Rohit Sharma

Mob: +91 99100 33891 <= u>

 <= u>

-----Original = Message-----
From: Manish Jindal <manishj...@yahoo.com>
To: Bhuvnesh Kalra <bhuv...@gmail.com>; CP Singhal <cpsi...@yahoo.com>
Cc: rohit4.sharma <rohit4...@aol.in>; puneet.gandhis <puneet....@gmail.com>; = MandeepSingh.Tuli <MandeepS...@unilever.com>; gautamarora2001 <gautama...@yahoo.com>; manisha1974 <manis...@gmail.com>; = vikas_gupta <= vikas...@app.co.id>; preeti.budhraja <preet= i.bud...@yahoo.co.in>; govindklkr <govin...@gmail.com>; sonu <so...@fables.com>; har= andinesh <har= andi...@yahoo.com>; madhurtaneja <madhur...@yahoo.com>; shikha_arts <shikh...@yahoo.com>; sumit.jos= hi <sumit.= jo...@unilever.com>; Dalbir.Singh <Dalbir.= Si...@unilever.com>; Vikas2909 <Vika...@gmail.com>; shaluni <sha...@yahoo.co.in>;= reenagulati <= reena...@gmai.com>; amandeep.bhan <amande...@gmail.com>; vinod.arora <vinod...@ranbney.com>; Ga= urav.Mediratta <Gaurav.M...@unilever.com>; uamitabh <uamit= a...@yahoo.com>; heyprabh <heyp...@gmail.com>; smahajan1 <smah...@gmail.com>; amit.= dalmia <am= it.d...@unilever.com>; ssharma <ssharma= @spirex.ca>; peuesh_bhutani <peuesh_...@gmail.com>; ashok.venkatram= ani <a= shok.ven...@gmail.com>; p_darooka <p= _dar...@yahoo.co.in>; rakesh2er <rake...@yahoo.com>; ishmeet_singh <ishmeet_singh= @unilever.com>; arijitgm <arij...@yahoo.com>; yesh_kant <yes= h_k...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 10, 2014 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: spaze privy owners meeting at 11 AM on dec 21 (saturday) at sp= aze office on sohna road

Hi Folks,
There is no point in making payments blindly when it is amply clear that th= ere is no response from Spaze for any of the following points:
1. The work at site is no where near completion and this is the last paymen= t to builder.
2. The justification of increased super area (old and new approved drawings= ) is not provided.
3. Adjustment of possession delay penalty is not made.
4. No justification for extra electrification charges.

Making payment now is like closing all doors for yourself. I am proceeding = with sending a reply to spaze with above issues and subsequently take legal= action, if required.
Regards,
Manish

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel<= u>

From: Bhuvnesh Kalra <bhuv...@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:16:29 +0530

To: CP Singhal<cpsi...@yahoo.com>

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Subject: Re: spaze privy owners meeting at 11 AM on dec 21 (satu= rday) at spaze office on sohna road

 

Hi Folks!
I have a flat in Tower C (1930 Sq Ft).=3D20
The payment of about 14 L is due today (today being the final day). I =3D guess they gonna levy a penalty for delayed payment.

I went to the site yesterday to have a look..pretty messed up state of =3D<= br> affairs. Infact I was quite disappointed..the place is nowhere near a =3D state of being handed over.
Quite apparent these guys have pulled up a smart one in fooling guys =3D
like me!
Anyways, Just wanted to check on this forum if others are making the =3D
payments today too (or if they have already made)
Any other alternatives?? Or suggestions to go forward?

Thanks
Bhuvnesh Kalra
9871783888

 

On 06-Feb-2014, at 4:11 PM, CP Singhal wrot= e:

 <= u>

Demand received = for Tower D as well now. I had a talk with a Spaze customer executive and w= as informed the following -

 

The extra area is increase in staircase, = lift lobby and balcony (which generally speaking not a real benefit. Not su= re of layout changes.) However, the agreement states that the developer can vary super area (no limits assigned) and cha= rge based on actual area at the time of final payment. Thus this also may n= ot go well with legal.

 

The amount for delayed penalty shall be c= alculated while making payment and can be deducted from the amount demanded= .

 

Regarding the electrical substation, the = provision to claim extra was there in the agreement signed and would not go= further in legal, I believe.

 

What is the way forward as decided by for= um. So far, I understand it is left to individual and if it is decided to g= o legal these people can support from outside.

 

Is it correct to give possession by build= er without occupancy certificate from authority??

 

Regards

C P Singhal

 

 

 

On Tuesday, 4 Fe= bruary 2014, 1:22, "rohit4...@aol.in" <rohit4...@aol.in> wrote:

Guys, 

 

As per my unders= tanding, before taking the possession, we need to sign a letter stating we = have checked and are satisfied with quality of construction, lay outs, design etc.Same letter will have super area spe= cifications etc. and I don't think, we will have a strong legal case le= ft post sign-off such kind of letter, if this is true. 

 =

Am sure, you guy= s would have done by now but if not, we should take expert legal advise ins= tead assumptions. If this is not done then, let's try to take advise from some senior lawyer. <= /span>

 =

I have visited s= ite and observed lot of gaps what was promised / expected and what is actua= lly came out. Biggest heartbreaking point is change of layout of the flat. This holds true at-least for all flat owners= of 1930 sq. ft. flat, may be true for others. 

 =

Few observations= ; 

• As mentioned, flat design is modified at-least for those who has 1= 930 sq. ft. flat. A & B Tower. Am not sure about others.<= /span>

 =             &nb= sp;          # The direction of washroom attached with m= aster bedroom is changed i.e. rotated by 90 degree, resulted in loss of car= pet area. 

 =              &n= bsp;         # There was a dressing space shown in the d= rawing not because of rotation, dressing space has gone and now, wardrobe i= s inside washroom only, and privacy is compromised there. 

• I could not find any green area at least in front of my flat, for = which I have paid hell lot of PLC. 
• Pool area is very less, not of standard size seems to be a kids po= ol. 
• Dinning area is compromised, in drawing it is mentioned as 10x10, = wherein it is delivered as 9x10. Few inches are ok but it actually, 12"= ;. Considering, wall area, usable space should have been 9.8x10 fts. Now, I wont be able to place my bar unit in dinning area. = ;
• Study room does not have an attached toilet, wherein in drawing, i= t was shown as attached with study room.